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Post by chrisd on Jan 2, 2015 17:38:29 GMT -5
Hi, There's a difference on the site from Paul Brunton and the review here. At the biography here: www.paulbrunton.org/bio-illustrated.php it says: Paul Brunton achieved that extraordinary state called “Sahaja” by the Hindus. As he himself put it, the state of Sahaja is not one of knowing reality, but one of being reality—in other words, of being Realized. Yet Shawn wrote: He had tremendous knowledge gained from years of travelling the globe and meeting spiritual teachers, yet he never found a final answer. Is one wrong? Can we know? I'm wondering on what does Shawn base that statement. I'm coming to this subject because I read "The short path to enlightenment: instructions for immediate awakening" and found it to be extraordinarily profound. Thx for your time. -Chrisd
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Post by laughter on Jan 2, 2015 17:45:09 GMT -5
Hi, There's a difference on the site from Paul Brunton and the review here. At the biography here: www.paulbrunton.org/bio-illustrated.php it says: Paul Brunton achieved that extraordinary state called “Sahaja” by the Hindus. As he himself put it, the state of Sahaja is not one of knowing reality, but one of being reality—in other words, of being Realized. Yet Shawn wrote: He had tremendous knowledge gained from years of travelling the globe and meeting spiritual teachers, yet he never found a final answer. Is one wrong? Can we know? I'm wondering on what does Shawn base that statement. I'm coming to this subject because I read "The short path to enlightenment: instructions for immediate awakening" and found it to be extraordinarily profound. Thx for your time. -Chrisd Hey Chris, I met the editor/author not too long ago ... have you passed this along to him yet?
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Post by chrisd on Jan 3, 2015 15:58:55 GMT -5
Hi Laughter, the author/editor of the book short path to enlightenment? That's Mark Scorelle, correct? Or are you talking about Shawn? If you were talking about Shawn, I thought the appropriate place for a remark like this was this forum. Should I send him a mail?
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Post by laughter on Jan 3, 2015 18:35:43 GMT -5
Hi Laughter, the author/editor of the book short path to enlightenment? That's Mark Scorelle, correct? Or are you talking about Shawn? If you were talking about Shawn, I thought the appropriate place for a remark like this was this forum. Should I send him a mail? Yes, I was referring to Mark.
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Post by chrisd on Jan 5, 2015 6:59:19 GMT -5
I just came across this in the book:
"The actual experience alone can settle this argument. This is what I found: The ego vanished; the everyday "I" which the world knew and which knew the world, was no longer there. But a new and diviner individuality appeared in its place, a consciousness which could say "I AM" and which I recognized to have been my real self all along. It was not lost, merged, or dissolved: it was fully and vividly conscious that it was a point in the universal Mind and so not apart from that Mind itself. Only the lower self, the false self, was gone but that was a loss for which to be immeasurably grateful."
This is supposedly Paul Brunton's writing, taken from his notebooks.
So I think the question better be put to Shawn, why does he say Brunton never found a final answer?
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 12, 2015 13:12:54 GMT -5
I just came across this in the book: "The actual experience alone can settle this argument. This is what I found: The ego vanished; the everyday "I" which the world knew and which knew the world, was no longer there. But a new and diviner individuality appeared in its place, a consciousness which could say "I AM" and which I recognized to have been my real self all along. It was not lost, merged, or dissolved: it was fully and vividly conscious that it was a point in the universal Mind and so not apart from that Mind itself. Only the lower self, the false self, was gone but that was a loss for which to be immeasurably grateful." This is supposedly Paul Brunton's writing, taken from his notebooks. So I think the question better be put to Shawn, why does he say Brunton never found a final answer? Hey chrisd......I think this a question only Shawn can answer. A possible answer. I've read a good bit of Paul Brunton. I like him. Brunton always maintained that our everyday world is relatively real. I take this to mean, real, in the sense of the material universe had a beginning, time and space are (relatively) real, I was born on a certain date, etc., etc., etc. Now, a lot of non-dualists don't believe this, this whole world is dream-like, ephemeral, God God-ing. (For example, I've gone round and round with enigma on this question, and he is always adamant that there is no such thing as relatively real. Well....no, he sort-of stepped-back in one post). ......I don't really know Shawn's view or if Brunton's view of relative reality disqualifies his having found a final answer.....as in, no, he didn't really see the truth (in a manner of speaking).
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