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Post by figgles on Dec 18, 2014 18:43:30 GMT -5
I have no idea what you're getting at (Enigma & Reefs). I'm being sarcastic at times, but I'm talking straight a lot of the time, too, so I have no idea what your beef could possibly be. You choose not to govern yourselves, and are free to say whatever comes to your mind about whomever disagrees with you, so I don't know why anyone else should feel restricted, if the rules are such. There are lots of people here to talk to, and as a forum, most people choose to chat with those they have at least a modicum of rapport with. Evidently, that's not the case with a lot of people and it's neither here nor there - it just is. So, you don't need to talk to me, when there are lots of other peeps you can chat with here. The way I see it is that enigma and reefs (and others) aren't so much interested in making life more comfortable or improving things but helping you go out beyond good vs bad, broken vs fixed etc.This can be a profoundly uncomfortable process, and it can be wrongly seen as harsh, especially when no quarter is given. Maybe it's like the ripping off of a thousand bandaids. Yes it hurts, but you don't leave old bandaids on forever - at some point you see how festy they are and want them off. Maybe it would help to find out what you want and then go from there. Since you've got an interest in Buddhism, maybe some work with a therapist (hakomi might be good) or a mindfulness course (I can recommend MBSR). Honestly I have no idea... but I wish you well in the search. Question is; why is it "helping another go beyond good vs. bad, broken vs. fixed" when it's E, or Reefs dishing it out, but it's "nasty, sarcastic, insult" when Silver (or another) dishes it back the same way? That's the seeming double standard that Silver is addressing in her post.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 18:43:46 GMT -5
So do they talk about making better dreams over there? I never know what you or reefs or laughter or enigma really mean by that and I'm not worried about it. So what do they talk about?
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Post by silver on Dec 18, 2014 18:47:26 GMT -5
The only 'rally' is to get the message through to certain peeps I'm not wanting to hear from them. You like tradition, I see. Nothin' wrong with that. It's just not true that you don't want to hear from Enigma, Laughter and Reefs. So - what does one think of such a situation - benevolent forum stalkers or what? Like Homer J. Simpson sez: "You can kiss my elbow and call it ice cream."
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Post by silver on Dec 18, 2014 18:49:06 GMT -5
I never know what you or reefs or laughter or enigma really mean by that and I'm not worried about it. So what do they talk about? Buddhism, normal everyday stuff, stuff in the news, it has a members only section like most forums, so there's some personal stuff that gets talked about.
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Post by silver on Dec 18, 2014 18:51:48 GMT -5
You make me chuckle.......the only work is trying to get you to stop addressing me. Why is that a problem on an internet forum? It usually isn't. Not a whole lot of laissez-faire type moderation going on elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 18:57:26 GMT -5
Yeah. The patterns are all there. The rallying is starting, then the demands to be treated the way she wants to be treated. There'll be some blocking going down in a day or two. Then Peter will come in on Boxing Day have a moan, and it will all go quiet again. Actually, there's some truth to the collective tension that shows up around the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New years time frame. That 'energy' used to take me by surprise, but the more conscious of it I am, the less it can be felt. Still, it shows up in relating to others, like here on the forum. Yeah acknowledgement inhibits the absorption of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 19:00:16 GMT -5
It's just not true that you don't want to hear from Enigma, Laughter and Reefs. So - what does one think of such a situation - benevolent forum stalkers or what? Like Homer J. Simpson sez: "You can kiss my elbow and call it ice cream." I know you would love me to stick around and watch the unfolding Silver Show, though count me out of your audience.
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Post by silver on Dec 18, 2014 19:03:07 GMT -5
So - what does one think of such a situation - benevolent forum stalkers or what? Like Homer J. Simpson sez: "You can kiss my elbow and call it ice cream." I know you would love me to stick around and watch the unfolding Silver Show, though count me out of your audience. Is that sarcasm? ETA --- The only ones who make it as you call it the Silver Show -- is everyone else who has bounded up to the stage. Quite funny, actually...
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Post by silver on Dec 18, 2014 19:03:51 GMT -5
Actually, there's some truth to the collective tension that shows up around the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New years time frame. That 'energy' used to take me by surprise, but the more conscious of it I am, the less it can be felt. Still, it shows up in relating to others, like here on the forum. Yeah acknowledgement inhibits the absorption of it.
Toodles~*
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Post by enigma on Dec 18, 2014 19:06:54 GMT -5
The way I see it is that enigma and reefs (and others) aren't so much interested in making life more comfortable or improving things but helping you go out beyond good vs bad, broken vs fixed etc.This can be a profoundly uncomfortable process, and it can be wrongly seen as harsh, especially when no quarter is given. Maybe it's like the ripping off of a thousand bandaids. Yes it hurts, but you don't leave old bandaids on forever - at some point you see how festy they are and want them off. Maybe it would help to find out what you want and then go from there. Since you've got an interest in Buddhism, maybe some work with a therapist (hakomi might be good) or a mindfulness course (I can recommend MBSR). Honestly I have no idea... but I wish you well in the search. Question is; why is it "helping another go beyond good vs. bad, broken vs. fixed" when it's E, or Reefs dishing it out, but it's "nasty, sarcastic, insult" when Silver (or another) dishes it back the same way? That's the seeming double standard that Silver is addressing in her post. Because there's the opportunity to see through that self created illusion.
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Post by enigma on Dec 18, 2014 19:10:22 GMT -5
It's just not true that you don't want to hear from Enigma, Laughter and Reefs. So - what does one think of such a situation - benevolent forum stalkers or what? Like Homer J. Simpson sez: "You can kiss my elbow and call it ice cream." Homer Simpson wisdom is something you might consider abandoning in your search for truth.
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Post by figgles on Dec 18, 2014 19:10:45 GMT -5
Question is; why is it "helping another go beyond good vs. bad, broken vs. fixed" when it's E, or Reefs dishing it out, but it's "nasty, sarcastic, insult" when Silver (or another) dishes it back the same way? That's the seeming double standard that Silver is addressing in her post. Because there's the opportunity to see through that self created illusion. That "opportunity" goes both ways Big fella.
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Post by enigma on Dec 18, 2014 19:14:42 GMT -5
Actually, there's some truth to the collective tension that shows up around the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New years time frame. That 'energy' used to take me by surprise, but the more conscious of it I am, the less it can be felt. Still, it shows up in relating to others, like here on the forum. Yeah acknowledgement inhibits the absorption of it.
The unconscious absorption, yes.
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Post by enigma on Dec 18, 2014 19:19:34 GMT -5
Because there's the opportunity to see through that self created illusion. That "opportunity" goes both ways Big fella. I don't see good/bad, broken fixed, which is not to say I don't see Silver struggling, just that it's her self created illusion, and she can stop creating it any time.
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Post by figgles on Dec 18, 2014 19:57:53 GMT -5
That "opportunity" goes both ways Big fella. I don't see good/bad, broken fixed, which is not to say I don't see Silver struggling, just that it's her self created illusion, and she can stop creating it any time. I think before you assume Silver or anyone here is 'struggling' that you take the time to ask them. Your ontology requires that you see 'most' humans, other than yourself, struggling deeply......thus, you look outwards and see a lot of struggle that you deem to have nothing at all to do with you.
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