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Post by silver on Oct 10, 2014 16:34:36 GMT -5
Stephen Batchelor is a former monk in the Tibetan and Zen traitions and the author of Buddhism Without Beliefs. He lectures and conducts meditation retreats worldwide.
I feel very lucky to have come across this book of his - Living With the Devil - a Meditation on Good and Evil. At the end of chapter one, he lays some things out in a way that even I can grasp:
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Post by silver on Oct 13, 2014 16:16:00 GMT -5
I wish to share this bit from the book from chapter one, Creating a Path - subsection 15, Learning to Wait…
This particular segment stood out because it used a word and a phrase that I used recently, as well.
I have to tell ya, this book really clicks with me.
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Post by laughter on Oct 13, 2014 17:27:13 GMT -5
I wish to share this bit from the book from chapter one, Creating a Path - subsection 15, Learning to Wait… This particular segment stood out because it used a word and a phrase that I used recently, as well. I have to tell ya, this book really clicks with me. Reminds me a little of Albert Low. He's suggesting a practice there, one that Tolle suggests as well -- but Tolle, not nearly as poetically. It's a great practice. That's the thing 'bout Buddhism ... while it's interesting to learn about for sure, it's what they suggest that you do that can change your life.
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Post by silver on Oct 13, 2014 17:43:49 GMT -5
My interest in this stuff's become like picking my way across the creek, rock to rock.
I just placed a hold on Low's The World: A Gateway.
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Post by laughter on Oct 14, 2014 4:12:58 GMT -5
My interest in this stuff's become like picking my way across the creek, rock to rock. I just placed a hold on Low's The World: A Gateway. Slipping on a rock into the rapids and knowing that there aint nutin that can ever harm what you really are is the best part.
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Post by silver on Oct 14, 2014 17:04:57 GMT -5
More from chapter two, subsection Fear and Trembling:
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Post by silver on Oct 14, 2014 17:07:54 GMT -5
and this...
That bit struck me as what it felt like that night I 'imagined myself IN 'the' void...telescopic sort of...
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Post by silver on Oct 16, 2014 22:49:42 GMT -5
Sharing with you an excerpt from chapter three, subsection entitled The Anarchy of the Gaps:
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Post by silver on Oct 19, 2014 12:29:40 GMT -5
and this... That bit struck me as what it felt like that night I 'imagined myself IN 'the' void...telescopic sort of... Once one fully awakens to, and realizes that they ARe trapped in a cycle of fearful reactivity, it can then begin to stop all on its own, just from realizing it.......Last night, I came to realize the distinct possibility - probability, that my son was caught up, and couldn't find his way out. As sad as that is/was, well, I guess that's what they call 'closure' -- but well it doesn't close ever, losing a loved one -- but it adds at least some sanity and explanation as to what happened and what happens when people go off the deep end, in any fashion.
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Post by silver on Oct 22, 2014 2:40:48 GMT -5
The library happened to have his popular book, Buddhism without Beliefs...I just started to read it earlier today. Might I suggest to a lot of you folks to read this fellow's books - and other books on Buddhism that you may find interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 9:32:38 GMT -5
The library happened to have his popular book, Buddhism without Beliefs...I just started to read it earlier today. Might I suggest to a lot of you folks to read this fellow's books - and other books on Buddhism that you may find interesting. I read that. My faint recollection is that it spoke well to my agnostic perspective. There's a whole subculture of secular Buddhists. He's in there.
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Post by silver on Oct 22, 2014 19:12:03 GMT -5
The library happened to have his popular book, Buddhism without Beliefs...I just started to read it earlier today. Might I suggest to a lot of you folks to read this fellow's books - and other books on Buddhism that you may find interesting. I read that. My faint recollection is that it spoke well to my agnostic perspective. There's a whole subculture of secular Buddhists. He's in there. I'm working on the one Laughter mentioned, well, the author Albert Low: The world: a Gateway..., plus another book I spied on the way my out of the library by Sri Surath Chakravarta "Samadhi & Beyond. I started a thread on the other forum, SF, asking the difference between Buddhism and Hinduism, and got a lot of interesting responses, it really helps to know what one is talking about, unless it doesn't, ha ha!
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Post by silver on Oct 23, 2014 19:39:57 GMT -5
Sharing a segment from Stephen Batchelor's Buddhism without Beliefs:
This guy just makes everything so clear for me.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Oct 24, 2014 10:02:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendation of the new Stephen Batchelor book, I'll look for it. Here's an example of what I was talking about on the ATA thread, from the chapter Awareness:
I open the refrigerator to discover that I have no milk and decide to go down to the store to get some. I shut the door behind me, turn left into the street, follow the sidewalk for two blocks, turn left and left again, enter the store, snatch a carton of milk from the shelf, pay for it at the checkout, leave the store, turn right and then right again, go back along the sidewalk for two blocks, turn right, unlock the door, and go back into the kitchen.
The only evidence I have that any of this has happened is the cold carton of milk now clutched rather too firmly in my hand. As I try to reconstruct those ten vanished minutes, I recall being engrossed in memory of something S said to me yesterday that I have been shrugging off ever since. It irked me and has become lodged as a stab of disquiet somewhere in the upper part of my stomach. I can remember that as I walked along, I was absorbed in what I should have said when the remark was made and what I should say were it repeated. The exact words of my response escape me. But I recall feeling gratified by their sharp blend of insouciance and cruelty, confirmed, in my imagination, by the look of fear on S's face as he is pinned to a rough wooden floor.
As for the first chill hint of winter in the gust of the wind that sent the last withered leaves scratching along the sidewalk before me as I pulled my warn collar tight against the skin of my neck, I have no recollection. And although I was staring intently in S's direction, I failed to notice the waving arm of my friend perched on his bicycle across the street, his call and whistle, his smile as he rode off when the light turned green.
Much of our time is spent like this. As we become aware of it we begin to suspect that we are not entirely in control of our lives. ..............One of the most difficult things to remember is to remember to remember. Awareness begins with remembering what we tend to forget. .........Not only do we forget to remember, we forget that we live in a body with senses and feelings and thoughts and emotions and ideas. ..........To stop and pay attention to what is happening in the moment is one way of snapping out of (such) fixations. It is also a reasonable definition of meditation. pages 57,58,59
Buddhism Without Beliefs, A Contemporary Guide to Awakening by Stephen Batchelor, 1998
In this example Batchelor had "blinked off" from being present as he walked along, he had disappeared into his thoughts and was virtually oblivious to his surroundings. Out of habit, he had walked this normal route, his attention in his head.
You've found some good stuff........
sdp
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Post by silver on Oct 25, 2014 0:08:43 GMT -5
That was a good share, sdp. I'm making my way through his Buddhism without Beliefs like I said, and want to share a tidbit from it!
So far, everything I've read of his speaks to something that's being discussed somewhere here on the forum, and for me, he makes it so much clearer...I can't say it enough. I love this guy.
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