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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2014 21:58:41 GMT -5
I honest to god don't think it's about 'Steve doesn't care how we see him.' I get the rest of that, about being here voluntarily, would you have real doubts about me being that much of a wimp or something? I'm doing well enough, thank you, as far as learning, reading, and I don't feel I need any of his help. I don't see anything particularly insightful coming from him. Besides, along about then, things just went from bad to worse, and everything just got so downright childish, I went off and was reading my book and staying out of the way. I'm dumbfounded that you would think that I needed help OR that he would be a good candidate for that help, and I'm stunned at your lack of any powers of discernment in this situation. Well, at least he shows us how projection works.  And how meditation doesn't.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 2:18:04 GMT -5
Yeah, can you imagine that forums of the future will be all Skype interaction? Conference forums, I suppose they will be called. A real settle down with the popcorn time eh?  Cool, cool. Yeah those moments that delay plans always have a freer abundance to them than the plan actualisation moments. D'ya think that's why we like making up a plan or two?  *bows head* So the aphorism goes "wanting is a better thing than having", which seems to me another form of "the journey is the reward. Yeah, it's just more awareness of why we do stuff. The frequency of the intention always informs us whether completion is probable or not. Sometimes plans are imagined so that, the time before their non-completion is felt in a much more vibrant and immediate way. It's not about the plan, or it's completion. The apparent delaying will set-up a psychological dynamic of perceived control. |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 10:59:20 GMT -5
Figgles,
I haven't talked to you since that post where you told me in so many words to buzz off because that post finally made me realize that you've become more and more unreachable.
Exchanging ideas and words in general with you, has become meaningless, because you are talking around, over and past people. The only person you may be hearing - although even that is debatable - is Andy. It's debatable because most of the time he's on automatic pilot - and you're on it almost all the time.
You have made some valid assessments and statements, but they are in a fractured sort of framework because of the many tactics you use, to make sure that you are heard above anybody else. It's not helping. If you shoot that many bullets, you're bound to hit something, I guess.
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Post by figgles on Sept 15, 2014 11:19:57 GMT -5
Figgles, I haven't talked to you since that post where you told me in so many words to buzz off because that post finally made me realize that you've become more and more unreachable. What I see is that that post where I told you that "if you were not enjoying the conversation you could always go elsewhere," angered you, and now you are enjoying a sense of being aligned with those who have ongoing issues with me. That's cool, but, Just don't make the mistake of believing your re-direction of disdain is an indication of a greater level of clarity. All you've done is switched up the target of your judgments. You say you no longer have interest in getting embroiled in the arguments here, but its' pretty clear that interest is still active. You steered clear for a bit, but now it seems, you've resumed with new targets in mind...? If you were really interested in steering clear of 'the nonsense' you wouldn't have approached me with this.  |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 11:58:13 GMT -5
Figgles, I haven't talked to you since that post where you told me in so many words to buzz off because that post finally made me realize that you've become more and more unreachable. What I see is that that post where I told you that "if you were not enjoying the conversation you could always go elsewhere," angered you, and now you are enjoying a sense of being aligned with those who have ongoing issues with me. That's cool, but, Just don't make the mistake of believing your re-direction of disdain is an indication of a greater level of clarity. All you've done is switched up the target of your judgments. You say you no longer have interest in getting embroiled in the arguments here, but its' pretty clear that interest is still active. You steered clear for a bit, but now it seems, you've resumed with new targets in mind...? If you were really interested in steering clear of 'the nonsense' you wouldn't have approached me with this. First off, I'd like to make it clear that there are pa-lenty of things that Enigma, Reefs and Laughter talk of that goes waay over my head to this day, but what in the beginning I saw as insult and playing around at the expense of my feelings, wasn't that at all - well, maybe a little - but we have to have fun sometime.....anyway, I had to swallow my pride so that I could learn what I most definitely sensed was something very important. Of course I was hurt because it couldn't be clearer that you said any number of things - all in that one post - designed specifically for that purpose - because that's how you operate. It's clear that you can't separate the wheat from the chaff when anybody is talking to you, and you seem to think that you should just go through life without anyone making a thoughtful observation about you/your behavior that isn't complimentary. What makes you so special, huh? So, for you to say that: "You say you no longer have interest in getting embroiled in the arguments here, but its' pretty clear that interest is still active. You steered clear for a bit, but now it seems, you've resume..." you're at least being contrite about being at the center of these arguments that peeps get embroiled in. Do you not see how defensive that is, even though it was especially designed to paint me at a certain angle to benefit you? The action starts at 1:15 and a few seconds later, notice how he's putting on a heavy duty gas mask and already is dressed in clothes to protect him from the toxic fumes of the paint. fwiw, I saw the original Tron, and I really liked it. Has anybody seen the sequel(s)? |
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Post by figgles on Sept 15, 2014 12:16:36 GMT -5
My intent was not to hurt you Silver. You've said that since you've come back you're no longer interested in getting mired in what you see to be silly arguments, but yet, there you were, interjecting your opinions into a conversation that you were not a part of. And a large part of that interjection was to complain specifically about how stupid and pointless the conversation Laffy and I were having. All I did was point out to you that if you were not enjoying it, a forum is different than a living room, where yu might be subjected to unwelcome conversation, and thus, you are free to move to another thread on the forum, that is more pleasing. In the context of what happens on this forum, pointing to clarity, I don't think this was at all out of line. You had said yourself that you were no longer interested in the types of conversations you were interjecting yourself into...and you made it clear you did not like the conversation Laffy and I were engaging in, so why did you make yourself part of it? I actually don't think that at all. I have no problem with folks making observations about my behavior...the fact that I may respond back does not mean that I think they should not have spoken up. How do you get 'contrite'? I'm trying to point out to you that you said you're not interested in the silly arguments, but there you were, and now here you are. |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5
My intent was not to hurt you Silver. You've said that since you've come back you're no longer interested in getting mired in what you see to be silly arguments, but yet, there you were, interjecting your opinions into a conversation that you were not a part of. And a large part of that interjection was to complain specifically about how stupid and pointless the conversation Laffy and I were having. All I did was point out to you that if you were not enjoying it, a forum is different than a living room, where yu might be subjected to unwelcome conversation, and thus, you are free to move to another thread on the forum, that is more pleasing. In the context of what happens on this forum, pointing to clarity, I don't think this was at all out of line. You had said yourself that you were no longer interested in the types of conversations you were interjecting yourself into...and you made it clear you did not like the conversation Laffy and I were engaging in, so why did you make yourself part of it? I actually don't think that at all. I have no problem with folks making observations about my behavior...the fact that I may respond back does not mean that I think they should not have spoken up. How do you get 'contrite'? I'm trying to point out to you that you said you're not interested in the silly arguments, but there you were, and now here you are. Yes, it was your intent. What I said was more along the lines of that specific argument wasn't what I could say was very constructive any longer - at least that's what I was observing - that as it continued on and it just wasn't uplifting anything or anybody, it wasn't providing any humor, nor providing any illumination on any subject whatsoever. Why would it mean that - as you're painting me again - that I'm 'not interested' and you try to make hay with that choice set of words to make me look stupid.....everything you are now saying to me and about me, is talking out of the side of your mouth in a surreptitious way (gossipy-like) as if you have some sort of magical inside info about me - not to mention everybody else here that you badmouth and then try to make yourself look like some sort of innocent. |
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Post by figgles on Sept 15, 2014 12:39:37 GMT -5
Yes, it was your intent. What I said was more along the lines of that specific argument wasn't what I could say was very constructive any longer - at least that's what I was observing - that as it continued on and it just wasn't uplifting anything or anybody, it wasn't providing any humor, nor providing any illumination on any subject whatsoever. It may not have been providing YOU with any humour or illumination, but you were not the one having the conversation. Kinda arrogantto jump into a conversation that two other people are having to declare that it should come to an end. I apologize if I"m wrong on that count. I took several things you wrote previously to mean that you had experienced a shift that no longer had you interested in certain kinds of conversations here. Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/user/1013/recent#ixzz3DPGr9rOLThis is one of several that seemed to indicate that, but If Im wrong, I'm sorry for misinterpreting/misconstruing your meaning. Regardless, It still seems odd to me for folks to enter into conversations they are not a part of, to tell those conversing that the conversation is annoying, stupid or pointless and that they should therefore, stop conversing. |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 12:50:32 GMT -5
Yes, it was your intent. What I said was more along the lines of that specific argument wasn't what I could say was very constructive any longer - at least that's what I was observing - that as it continued on and it just wasn't uplifting anything or anybody, it wasn't providing any humor, nor providing any illumination on any subject whatsoever. It may not have been providing YOU with any humour or illumination, but you were not the one having the conversation. Kinda arrogantto jump into a conversation that two other people are having to declare that it should come to an end. I apologize if I"m wrong on that count. I took several things you wrote previously to mean that you had experienced a shift that no longer had you interested in certain kinds of conversations here. Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/user/1013/recent#ixzz3DPGr9rOLThis is one of several that seemed to indicate that, but If Im wrong, I'm sorry for misinterpreting/misconstruing your meaning. Regardless, It still seems odd to me for folks to enter into conversations they are not a part of, to tell those conversing that the conversation is annoying, stupid or pointless and that they should therefore, stop conversing. Like yourself, I don't cotton to dumpster diving, so I'll just say that I don't remember calling any of your conversations that I so rudely joined in to say they were stupid - I don't think I would've used that word or made it look like that's how I felt. You're continuing to tell me to buzz off, but if I didn't feel I had something of import to say to whomever, I would refrain from engaging. You clearly enjoy throwing your weight around, and as far as dirty fighting goes, it is considerable. Any more, I am finding it really disturbing that you give appearances of grace and aplomb, but it's anything but -- I think many if not most can see the unrest underneath the placid and serene face. |
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Post by figgles on Sept 15, 2014 12:58:04 GMT -5
Like yourself, I don't cotton to dumpster diving, so I'll just say that I don't remember calling any of your conversations that I so rudely joined in to say they were stupid - I don't think I would've used that word or made it look like that's how I felt. You didn't use that word. I made a general statement....I used the word 'folks' not 'silver.' As I said in the original post in question, You're are not by any means the first person to do this, it happens quite a lot and indeed, by others, the word 'stupid' has been used more than once. No, I'm not. Then you are allowing your musings about me to disturb you. Let it go. |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 13:21:11 GMT -5
Like yourself, I don't cotton to dumpster diving, so I'll just say that I don't remember calling any of your conversations that I so rudely joined in to say they were stupid - I don't think I would've used that word or made it look like that's how I felt. You didn't use that word. I made a general statement....I used the word 'folks' not 'silver.' As I said in the original post in question, You're are not by any means the first person to do this, it happens quite a lot and indeed, by others, the word 'stupid' has been used more than once. No, I'm not. Then you are allowing your musings about me to disturb you. Let it go. Just maybe you should take a dose of your own advice(s). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 13:24:21 GMT -5
You didn't use that word. I made a general statement....I used the word 'folks' not 'silver.' As I said in the original post in question, You're are not by any means the first person to do this, it happens quite a lot and indeed, by others, the word 'stupid' has been used more than once. No, I'm not. Then you are allowing your musings about me to disturb you. Let it go. Just maybe you should take a dose of your own advice(s). is yer leg paining you today? |
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Post by figgles on Sept 15, 2014 13:27:25 GMT -5
You didn't use that word. I made a general statement....I used the word 'folks' not 'silver.' As I said in the original post in question, You're are not by any means the first person to do this, it happens quite a lot and indeed, by others, the word 'stupid' has been used more than once. No, I'm not. Then you are allowing your musings about me to disturb you. Let it go. Just maybe you should take a dose of your own advice(s). The moment I log off here, it's gone Silver. The only reason I said you should 'let it go' is because you mentioned being disturbed. If that's not the case, then I'm glad and if it is, then I hope you are able to let it go. Take care. |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 13:32:37 GMT -5
Just maybe you should take a dose of your own advice(s). The moment I log off here, it's gone Silver. The only reason I said you should 'let it go' is because you mentioned being disturbed. If that's not the case, then I'm glad and if it is, then I hope you are able to let it go. Take care. Hey...nice parting shot.  |
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Post by silver on Sept 15, 2014 13:33:01 GMT -5
Just maybe you should take a dose of your own advice(s). is yer leg paining you today? |
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