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Post by enigma on Sept 15, 2014 15:16:43 GMT -5
I tend to repress bad experiences.  hehehe what I was saying didn't go down well. It began with me saying 'You don't know....' I will leave it there. Well, obviously it's already a nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 16:25:28 GMT -5
Let me rephrase this as well, as the grasp that you presently have of it is in the personal again. I am 100% certain that you are not free to write a post that I would only be able to read headless.
That's not any better actually. What you are saying there is that your 'headlessness' depends upon the kind of post I write. ...You are saying that I only write one kind of post, and you cannot read those kinds of post without involvement of yer head. You are still assigning your headlessness or head-fulness, to me and the content/nature of my posts. Can you imagine a point where you could read a post written by someone whom you now regard to be completely unconscious and neck deep in delusion, and still be 'head free'? You see, this imagining of a point is where you stumble my dear. |
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Post by Reefs on Sept 15, 2014 21:16:43 GMT -5
Yes, that's what you are asking. Its a good question  That is exactly the type of answer that ALICE gives in a conversation on the topic.   You think there's a chance Andy will pass the Turing Test? |
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Post by laughter on Sept 15, 2014 22:20:07 GMT -5
That is exactly the type of answer that ALICE gives in a conversation on the topic. You think there's a chance Andy will pass the Turing Test? (** waddle waddle waddle **) |
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Post by Reefs on Sept 16, 2014 1:22:50 GMT -5
Liberation
UG: I am not out to liberate anybody. You have to liberate yourself, and you are unable to do that. What I have to say will not do it. I am only interested in describing this state, in clearing away the occultation and mystification in which those people in the 'holy business' have shrouded the whole thing. Maybe I can convince you not to waste a lot of time and energy, looking for a state which does not exist except in your imagination.
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Post by laughter on Sept 16, 2014 11:54:38 GMT -5
A state of wonderUG: This state is a state of not knowing; you really don't know what you are looking at. I may look at the clock on the wall for half an hour -- still I do not read the time. I don't know it is a clock. All there is inside is wonderment: " What is this that I am looking at?" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 13:36:13 GMT -5
UG: It is not emptiness, it is not blankness, it is not the void, it is not any of those things; the question disappeared suddenly, and that is all.
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Post by Reefs on Sept 18, 2014 10:42:45 GMT -5
A state of wonderUG: This state is a state of not knowing; you really don't know what you are looking at. I may look at the clock on the wall for half an hour -- still I do not read the time. I don't know it is a clock. All there is inside is wonderment: " What is this that I am looking at?" What's so funny about that?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 10:47:58 GMT -5
What's so funny about that? U.G. is playing peekaboo? |
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Post by Reefs on Sept 18, 2014 11:03:29 GMT -5
Outside the realm of experience
UG: You can never understand this; you can only experience this in terms of your past experience. This is outside the realm of experience. The natural state is acausal: it just happens. No communication is possible, and none necessary. The only thing that is real to you is the way you are functioning; it is an act of futility to relate my description to the way you are functioning. When you stop all this comparison, what is there is your natural state. Then you will not listen to anybody.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 11:10:09 GMT -5
A state of wonderUG: This state is a state of not knowing; you really don't know what you are looking at. I may look at the clock on the wall for half an hour -- still I do not read the time. I don't know it is a clock. All there is inside is wonderment: " What is this that I am looking at?" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 12:12:18 GMT -5
What's so funny about that? U.G. is playing peekaboo? What's the name of the guy who hangs out under the bleachers? Seymour Butts! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 12:26:19 GMT -5
U.G. is playing peekaboo? What's the name of the guy who hangs out under the bleachers? Seymour Butts! I heard first it as an entry on the NYT's bestseller list...
Under the Grandstand by Seymour butts
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Post by laughter on Sept 18, 2014 13:57:36 GMT -5
What's so funny about that? (** takes a long pull on doobie, reaches out to pass it to Reefs **) 'ere! |
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Post by Reefs on Sept 21, 2014 6:13:23 GMT -5
UG: It is not emptiness, it is not blankness, it is not the void, it is not any of those things; the question disappeared suddenly, and that is all. Yes, both question and source/center of the question gone! |
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That is exactly the type of answer that ALICE gives in a conversation on the topic. 
