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Post by Transcix on May 31, 2014 2:22:36 GMT -5
The charmingly cumbersome elaboration of the not-so-simple simplicity (where the charm is chiefly a function of dry humor, obviously)
It was recently discussed here that "as much as some individuals here point away from 'the conceptual', to take any kind of explanation of non-duality as 'the truth' is to remain fully in 'the conceptual'."
I should highlight another common pitfall: Some individuals here say the truth is so simple and merely surrounded by complexities, yet they subsequently proceed in trying to plop the truth out in a 'well-placed' handful of words all neatly and cleanly.
When the going gets tough, the answer is simply 'too much thinking', 'too much concept', 'too much ego', or something else along those lines..
But aren't those the only possible culprits? After all, isn't it that simple?
I laugh at evil mathematicians but I cringe at naive poets, indeed the only thing more confusing than truth, is ignorance..
Why do you exist? Why do you post on this forum? Why is your vocabulary, grammar and sentence structure the way it is? These questions cannot be considered in isolation, just as a mere handful of words in isolation cannot speak to anything of much importance (this is even more true in the case of poetry where context, including delineation against lack thereof, is primordial).
Ironic how people claim to be one with all yet dismiss association with their most intimate manifestations.. if your words are truly so toxic, perhaps participating in a discussion forum is an ill-suited activity for you!..
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Post by laughter on May 31, 2014 4:05:35 GMT -5
Some individuals here say the truth is so simple and merely surrounded by complexities, yet they subsequently proceed in trying to plop the truth out in a 'well-placed' handful of words all neatly and cleanly. Really?? Someone did that here??  Where! Where!! Light the torches! Distribute the pitchforks! ..  .. or perhaps .. is this only a ghost story? So, are these "why" questions one's that you have with you? Are you tryin' to figure out answers to those? |
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Post by Transcix on Sept 23, 2014 14:23:34 GMT -5
Regarding "my" why questions, I'm saying that the very fiber of my being is intimately related to even the most mundane word that I write. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is the same question.
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Post by laughter on Sept 23, 2014 16:24:07 GMT -5
Regarding "my" why questions, I'm saying that the very fiber of my being is intimately related to even the most mundane word that I write. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is the same question. Ambiguity is the soul of effigy. It's a direct yes or no question: are you trying to answer these questions for yourself at the present time, or not? Yes, or no? |
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Post by enigma on Sept 23, 2014 19:30:08 GMT -5
Regarding "my" why questions, I'm saying that the very fiber of my being is intimately related to even the most mundane word that I write. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is the same question. It's a direct yes or no question: are you trying to answer these questions for yourself at the present time, or not? Yes, or no? Hey, I like that.  |
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Post by laughter on Sept 24, 2014 0:08:28 GMT -5
Ambiguity is the soul of effigy.It's a direct yes or no question: are you trying to answer these questions for yourself at the present time, or not? Yes, or no? Hey, I like that. Tranny seems to dig poetic cleverness so I just vibed what came to mind -- or verse-vice-a fer the LOA folk.  |
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Post by Transcix on Sept 24, 2014 1:21:20 GMT -5
Regarding "my" why questions, I'm saying that the very fiber of my being is intimately related to even the most mundane word that I write. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is the same question. Ambiguity is the soul of effigy. It's a direct yes or no question: are you trying to answer these questions for yourself at the present time, or not? Yes, or no? The answer is no, I'm not trying to answer these questions for myself at the present time. But to be very clear, I didn't mean to be abstract. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is literally the same question. Everything you ever think is one long sentence. Everything you ever do is one long action. So now why did you say "ambiguity is the soul of effigy"? Ask me some good questions some time and you might get some answers more to your liking. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 24, 2014 2:12:07 GMT -5
Ambiguity is the soul of effigy. It's a direct yes or no question: are you trying to answer these questions for yourself at the present time, or not? Yes, or no? The answer is no, I'm not trying to answer these questions for myself at the present time. But to be very clear, I didn't mean to be abstract. Why I'm here at all and why I'm writing this very sentence is literally the same question. Everything you ever think is one long sentence. Everything you ever do is one long action. So now why did you say "ambiguity is the soul of effigy"? Ask me some good questions some time and you might get some answers more to your liking. any preferences I might or might not have w/r/t the answers another might give have very little to do with the questions. Thanks for that one btw, it was quite clear and I understand it perfectly. As far as your "why" question to me is concerned, words happen.  |
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Post by Transcix on Sept 24, 2014 2:26:05 GMT -5
Ha, I see how that would be funny to you, but in fact I meant it a different way hehe. I come to this forum for good questions and good answers, otherwise I wouldn't come here at all. I don't want good questions so that there can be good answers, but so that there can be communication!
And yes yes, let me preempt you. I don't care about communication. But try as I might to let everything go, such as desire for communication, things still remain. Just like if you try to pay attention to nothing in particular you don't blackout and lose consciousness but rather you still retain perspective. It's really quite agreeable!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 3:10:11 GMT -5
Ha, I see how that would be funny to you, but in fact I meant it a different way hehe. I come to this forum for good questions and good answers, otherwise I wouldn't come here at all. I don't want good questions so that there can be good answers, but so that there can be communication! And yes yes, let me preempt you. I don't care about communication. But try as I might to let everything go, such as desire for communication, things still remain. Just like if you try to pay attention to nothing in particular you don't blackout and lose consciousness but rather you still retain perspective. It's really quite agreeable! 'ello agreeable. Noice you came. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 24, 2014 18:01:58 GMT -5
Ha, I see how that would be funny to you, but in fact I meant it a different way hehe. I come to this forum for good questions and good answers, otherwise I wouldn't come here at all. I don't want good questions so that there can be good answers, but so that there can be communication! And yes yes, let me preempt you. I don't care about communication. But try as I might to let everything go, such as desire for communication, things still remain. Just like if you try to pay attention to nothing in particular you don't blackout and lose consciousness but rather you still retain perspective. It's really quite agreeable! 2nd time same Billy Shakes quote to you: "there is no good nor bad but that thinking makes it so". Denmark is only ever a prison to Hamlet in his mind, but you see, he was conscious of this as he said it. |
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Post by Transcix on Sept 25, 2014 0:24:18 GMT -5
Do you think that everyone enlightened will be identical to you? Do you not see the gruesomeness of that? Are you not immortal? A unity is only truly a unity with a health variety to unify in the first place.. infinite that amounts of identicalness is a homogeneous blob.. I am not you.. I am not better than you.. but I sure as hell prefer may way compared to yours, hence I stick to it hehehehhehe... I do not lose containment.. as much as i try to lose contaiment, behold there is a force there preventing it!.. I am not nihilist but to the contrary.. to proceed into the darkness, indeed this is the natural path of light..
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Post by Transcix on Sept 25, 2014 0:28:55 GMT -5
Let us dismantle all conventional form, the purpose of a discussion forum is surely to deny its very purpose in the first place, a full circle that is, what a homogeneous blob, the bigger the lie the more it can be believed, we are not worthy, it all goes back to nothing, this forum is trash, how could I manifest myself into language?.. I HAVE ALREADY MANIFESTED MYSELF INTO LANGUAGE, IN MY EVERY BREATH AND THOUGHT AND WORD.. i do not hate myself but rather i accept myself, laugher xing let me the x be, do not conspire with the same corruption of the "normal" world.. we are of the same kin for fuck's sake..
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Post by Transcix on Sept 25, 2014 0:35:15 GMT -5
The moderator is supposed to be the UNSEEN Tao or the SEEN Tao but NOT the BOTH unseen and seen Tao, you cannot write the posts of others!
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Post by laughter on Sept 25, 2014 3:37:02 GMT -5
Do you think that everyone enlightened will be identical to you?  Uhm ... what, exactly, was the basis of that question?? Do you not see the gruesomeness of that? "Gruesome" is a bit dramatic and was a knickname used for me by my highschool football teammates. I played tackle both sides of the ball. I'd use the word "silly". ... not to mention based on the misconception of the enlightened individual.  A unity is only truly a unity with a health variety to unify in the first place.. infinite that amounts of identicalness is a homogeneous blob.. I am not you.. I am not better than you.. but I sure as hell prefer may way compared to yours, hence I stick to it hehehehhehe... I do not lose containment.. as much as i try to lose contaiment, behold there is a force there preventing it!.. I am not nihilist but to the contrary.. to proceed into the darkness, indeed this is the natural path of light.. There's really not anything that you've written there that isn't based on some assumption about my perspective that I can assure you is flawed. |
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