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Post by laughter on May 28, 2014 9:46:59 GMT -5
That every perspective is unique is apparent from the question, without perspective, what would there be to have perspective on? ... which is a paraphrase of the question, "to be or not to be?". That I am not you and that you are not me is quite evident. How and why are we able to agree on anything? Any ideas we have about this question won't answer it. That we all share the same sense of being is all that we need to know, the rest is chimera. Socrates -- "I know that I know nothing". To arrive at the beginning and know it for the first time is a mind state of defenselessness. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 10:55:42 GMT -5
That every perspective is unique is apparent from the question, without perspective, what would there be to have perspective on? ... which is a paraphrase of the question, "to be or not to be?". That I am not you and that you are not me is quite evident. How and why are we able to agree on anything? Any ideas we have about this question won't answer it. That we all share the same sense of being is all that we need to know, the rest is chimera. Socrates -- "I know that I know nothing". To arrive at the beginning and know it for the first time is a mind state of defenselessness. It was a wise man who invented beer-Socrates |
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Post by laughter on May 28, 2014 15:11:34 GMT -5
Socrates -- "I know that I know nothing". To arrive at the beginning and know it for the first time is a mind state of defenselessness. It was a wise man who invented beer-Socrates  |
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Post by Transcix on May 30, 2014 20:43:24 GMT -5
Every perspective is unique, true.. every vantage point is unique.. different circumstances.. but we're also all the same.. we share the same sense of being.. consciousness is consciousness, despite what circumstances it may find itself in.. our uniqueness is NOT our consciousness.. if you think you know that you know nothing then you can make pretend to have self-knowledge but you're living in a fantasy.. "How and why are we able to agree on anything"?.. really?.. this must be one of the silliest phrases I've ever encountered.. but when you try not to know anything, and then you add silly to it, it can seem like magic really easily!.. so easily in fact that it takes the pleasure right out of it, for anyone who wants to feel a little more passionately..
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Post by laughter on May 31, 2014 0:25:46 GMT -5
Every perspective is unique, true.. every vantage point is unique.. different circumstances.. but we're also all the same.. we share the same sense of being.. consciousness is consciousness, despite what circumstances it may find itself in.. our uniqueness is NOT our consciousness.. if you think you know that you know nothing then you can make pretend to have self-knowledge but you're living in a fantasy.. "How and why are we able to agree on anything"?.. really?.. this must be one of the silliest phrases I've ever encountered.. but when you try not to know anything, and then you add silly to it, it can seem like magic really easily!.. so easily in fact that it takes the pleasure right out of it, for anyone who wants to feel a little more passionately.. Silly? Why, of course. It's expressed as a thought and for Beercrates it is, but the expression in this instance, does not reference any effort. All the models are nothing but conceit, and the source of the silliness is the urge to model, the demand for some explanation. It's the futile banging of the phantom limb of the head, and to pass the pain one has only relax and notice the transparency of it all. Consciousness is nothing but a word that peeps like to use to deceive themselves into thinking that some of the models actually have inherent meaning. |
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Post by Transcix on May 31, 2014 1:39:57 GMT -5
I demand explanations?.. I was not aware of this.. I'll never understand how you can think you know so much while trying to know so little.. indeed you're like a paradox, there's nothing to understand.. how ironic..
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Post by laughter on May 31, 2014 3:53:26 GMT -5
oh, you don't? .. uh, ok .. what was the subject here again??  I was not aware of this.. (** straight face, silence **) I'll never understand how you can think you know so much while trying to know so little.. indeed you're like a paradox, there's nothing to understand.. how ironic.. Oh? tell me what you think I know!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 9:02:08 GMT -5
Every perspective is unique, true.. every vantage point is unique.. different circumstances.. but we're also all the same.. we share the same sense of being.. consciousness is consciousness, despite what circumstances it may find itself in.. our uniqueness is NOT our consciousness.. if you think you know that you know nothing then you can make pretend to have self-knowledge but you're living in a fantasy.. "How and why are we able to agree on anything"?.. really?.. this must be one of the silliest phrases I've ever encountered.. but when you try not to know anything, and then you add silly to it, it can seem like magic really easily!.. so easily in fact that it takes the pleasure right out of it, for anyone who wants to feel a little more passionately.. Silly? Why, of course. It's expressed as a thought and for Beercrates it is, but the expression in this instance, does not reference any effort. All the models are nothing but conceit, and the source of the silliness is the urge to model, the demand for some explanation. It's the futile banging of the phantom limb of the head, and to pass the pain one has only relax and notice the transparency of it all. Consciousness is nothing but a word that peeps like to use to deceive themselves into thinking that some of the models actually have inherent meaning. Beercrates!  |
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Post by laughter on May 31, 2014 9:24:53 GMT -5
Silly? Why, of course. It's expressed as a thought and for Beercrates it is, but the expression in this instance, does not reference any effort. All the models are nothing but conceit, and the source of the silliness is the urge to model, the demand for some explanation. It's the futile banging of the phantom limb of the head, and to pass the pain one has only relax and notice the transparency of it all. Consciousness is nothing but a word that peeps like to use to deceive themselves into thinking that some of the models actually have inherent meaning. Beercrates!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 10:35:51 GMT -5
Beercrates! Ah, the death of dignity. |
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