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[zendancer]

Jun 28, 2023 9:18:03 GMT -5 stardustpilgrim said:

Jun 28, 2023 4:52:56 GMT -5 zendancer said:

Wow! After reading about this film, I'll have to find it and watch it. The story of how the film was made, and what happened while it was being made, is absolutely unbelievable! I also plan to check out the two films Satch recommended. Herzog is amazing.

Yea, if I remember correctly, there is also a full feature documentary about the filming of Fitzcarraldo.

I read enough to learn that the story of how they made the movie and what happened during the filming of it is absolutely incredible! Truth is surely stranger than fiction. To think that they physically hauled a 360 ton ship up a mountain using indigenous people is mind boggling!

[justlikeyou]

[Reefs]

This is a really good action movie. It basically has the length of a Bollywood movie (2h 43min) but it's worth watching in full, you won't get bored. The action scenes are really well done and the plot has some unexpected level of depth and raises some interesting philosophical, ethical and also practical questions re: AI. I don't know if it was the intention of the makers of the movie, but - unlike Musk & Friends who are stuck on telling the dystopian side of AI - the movie made me realize that there's actually a surprising flip side to this that no one really seems to be aware of. In that context, it is also interesting to see how the MI movies have been inching closer toward The Matrix scenario over the years. I am not going into more detail right now because I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet. But if you should watch the movie, let me know if you are seeing what I am seeing.

[stardustpilgrim]

Jul 8, 2023 6:32:30 GMT -5 Reefs said:

This is a really good action movie. It basically has the length of a Bollywood movie (2h 43min) but it's worth watching in full, you won't get bored. The action scenes are really well done and the plot has some unexpected level of depth and raises some interesting philosophical, ethical and also practical questions re: AI. I don't know if it was the intention of the makers of the movie, but - unlike Musk & Friends who are stuck on telling the dystopian side of AI - the movie made me realize that there's actually a surprising flip side to this that no one really seems to be aware of. In that context, it is also interesting to see how the MI movies have been inching closer toward The Matrix scenario over the years. I am not going into more detail right now because I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet. But if you should watch the movie, let me know if you are seeing what I am seeing.

Thanks, have liked all the series. The first one left a bad taste in my mouth, but I got over it. Why bad taste? OK, think, what if they turned Ethan Hunt into a bad guy. I'm going to assume you are too young to have watched the TV program Mission Impossible. I did, regularly, a pretty-much must see. At first Mr. Briggs was the team leader guy who listened to the self-destructing tape, I liked him better than Mr. Phelps. But in the first film they turned Mr Phelps into a bad guy, not believable whatsoever, if you watched the TV program. I actually couldn't believe they did that.

But, not why I'm here. Did you watch the TV program Leverage? The MI TV program was a lot like that, every week the MI team gave the bad guys an alternative reality, and made them believe what wasn't so. In that sense it was a kind of Matrix TV program. Now, film MI does this to a certain extent, with the masks and all and not knowing who is who, but the films don't do a complete reality flip on the bad guys like the TV MI did, every week. And this is basically what Leverage did every week also. So I'd say TV MI was already very Matrix-like. But, thanks for the mention, I can vaguely guess what film MI has done with AI.

But, so, I have 2 must-see films now, MI and Nolan's Oppenheimer.

[stardustpilgrim]

I don't do streaming, I get two DVD's a month from Netflix. I have a pretty long list, but few 'I really want to see' films. Where the Crawdads Sing wasn't the top of my list, but it made its way to the top, and it showed up. I was very pleasantly surprised, it's a very good film, watched it today. I hadn't read the book, glad I hadn't. I'm going to guess the trailer says enough, but not too much. Sorry I missed it on the big screen, it deserves to be seen on the big screen, it's a beautiful film too. I just expected a story, it's more than a story, it's complicated. It's heartbreaking too, it's brutal in some ways, it's wonderful in many ways. I will go so far to say it's amazing. I could recommend it to anyone. It begins with a death, the story slowly unfolds, Kya's story unfolds.

This is a better trailer, #2, don't watch the official trailer (#1).

[lolly]

Probably the best review of "Oppenheimer" possible. No spoilers.

It's outstanding

[stardustpilgrim]

I've been watching The Cove, 3-5 on EarthX TV. I've heard of it probably since the origin, 2009. I haven't sought out seeing it previously, as it's about the slaughter of dolphins in a cove in Taiji, Japan. But, thankfully, it doesn't show the slaughter until almost the end. But it's 4 minutes of very bad. They're now showing a Japanese government guy the killing, even he is visibly upset. Wow! The main guy of the film, Ric O'Barry, has just walked into a press conference with a TV monitor strapped to his chest, he's showing the 4 minutes of slaughter. The film ends with O'Barry standing on the streets of Japan wearing the monitor, some people stop to watch. In 2009 the dolphin slaughter was a secret in Japan. Dolphin meat was sold as whale meat. Dolphin meat has 20 times the accepted level of mercury.

Earlier in the film it shows another cove where there is a public display of the capture of dolphins to be sold throughout the world, to be trained for Seaquariums. These can be sold for $150,000.00 each. But afterwards, the rest of the dolphins are herded to Taiji cove where they are slaughtered to be sold as food. These are worth about $600 each. This is the secret the film is about. The film makers had to go to extraordinary and dangerous lengths to get film and sound, as the cliffs of the cove are searched regularly for people trying to watch and film.

Ric O'Barry was the trainer for the TV program Flipper back in the 1960's. The house of the father and two sons was his own house, where he lived during filming. There was a sea saltwater cove right there at the house where Flipper lived. Ric said he would take a TV down to the dock and show Kathy the program every week. He was even then 100% sure dolphins are self-conscious and very intelligent. Kathy-Flipper committed suicide in his arms. Something I had never considered, dolphins do not breath unconsciously as humans do, they have to take every breath deliberately (it's kind of obvious once you think of it). So he said he was holding Kathy, she took her last breath, and then slid into the water and didn't come back up. I wrote about a week ago that John Lilly had the same experience. All the dolphins he was working with also committed suicide. He decided not to work with dolphins any more, but he said if he did it would be on their terms, they would have to be able to freely come and go.

I would encourage anyone to watch the film. If you'd rather not watch the slaughter, you'll know when it's coming, you can close your eyes. A few minutes later it shows the scene again, no dolphins, but it shows the cove still red with blood.

[lolly]

"Dear Child" on Netflix is a real mind bender with twists and turns!

[stardustpilgrim]

Aug 2, 2023 4:20:52 GMT -5 lolly said:

Probably the best review of "Oppenheimer" possible. No spoilers.

It's outstanding

I somehow missed this post until just now. Yes, good review, I like the guy. But the music was way too loud, I couldn't have watched in full if the music had played throughout, it was very obtrusive.

In the extra clips you can see the burden of Oppenheimer on his face, afterwards. It's portrayed well in the film also, the meeting with Truman. I saw it about 3 weeks ago. It's truly about Oppenheimer, not specifically about the bomb. A couple of other things. Richard Feynman is in the film, sort of. When you hear the bongo drums playing, that's Feynman. He writes about being at Los Alamos in his book, Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman, he taught himself to crack safes, at Los Alamos. I chanced on a video of him talking about Los Alamos, the regret of continuing to work on the bomb after Germany was defeated, short, about 5 minutes, I think I can find it, very interesting. (Couldn't find).

Another side issue. Some of you here know about David Bohm. Bohm was a student of Oppenheimer in California. he had just finished his PhD under Oppenheimer when Oppenheimer became the head of the Manhattan Project. It was about plasma physics, and Oppenheimer knew immediately it was important concerning making the bomb. So it was classified, and Bohm himself couldn't have access to his own PhD thesis, he hadn't even defended it yet. So Oppenheimer got special permission, Bohm was awarded his PhD without defending his paper. Bohm later had his own Communist problems, he refused to rat on Communist friends in the McCarthy hearings, so he was basically chased out of America, he couldn't get a job anywhere. He had to go to South America to get a job, and eventually went to Birbeck in the UK.

[lolly]

Yep physics hacks like me saw the nod to Feynman in the film. Good film. Worth a look. Funny all the intellectuals those days were commies, and there's a problem where too much brain makes you stupid. When I went back to training and simple physical labour. I was cured of mental gymnastics. Hence my avatar shifted from something clever which I can't remember, to 'lift heavy things' to 'dig holes'. The irony for me is, intellectuals now appear to be idiots. The Bomb? Case in point.

[inavalan]

Sept 16, 2023 19:28:14 GMT -5 lolly said:

Yep physics hacks like me saw the nod to Feynman in the film. Good film. Worth a look. Funny all the intellectuals those days were commies, and there's a problem where too much brain makes you stupid. When I went back to training and simple physical labour. I was cured of mental gymnastics. Hence my avatar shifted from something clever which I can't remember, to 'lift heavy things' to 'dig holes'. The irony for me is, intellectuals now appear to be idiots. The Bomb? Case in point.

I found that a good way to compare and better understand people, nature, situations, events, is to place them on an axis instincts -> emotions -> intellect -> intuition. It isn't that it is better to be more on the intuition side than on the instincts side, as it can't be said that it is better to be a human than a pebble, an adult than a child, ... Something is on a certain level of evolvement on an infinite axis.

People's bell distribution is centered somewhere between emotions and intellect. The left-leaning intellectuals are skewed a little toward emotions, the right-leaning intellectuals are skewed a little toward intellect. This is why the right thinks the left is stupid, while the left thinks the right has no heart; the left believe they're smarter, the right believe they have more heart; eventually, the left ends up acting mean, while the right ends up acting stupid.

Not-thinking can be skewed either way, toward instincts or intuition. It could be an opportunity for a qualitative gain of evolvement, but unfortunately people decide and act mostly randomly, so according to the people's bell distribution, only a few have intuitive glimpses.

Intellectuals aren't idiots, as compared to other groups of population, more than children are idiots compared to adults, flowers are idiots compared to humans, ...

Thinking places humans on a higher level of evolvement, but the ability to think (which doesn't mean only intellect) varies widely among individuals, groups, ...

The good news is that even the dumbest humans, during their sleep, progress, evolve, although they aren't aware of that. So, all die a little (or more) evolved than were born, no matter what they did during their waking lives.

[lolly]

Sept 16, 2023 23:54:53 GMT -5 inavalan said:

Sept 16, 2023 19:28:14 GMT -5 lolly said:

Yep physics hacks like me saw the nod to Feynman in the film. Good film. Worth a look. Funny all the intellectuals those days were commies, and there's a problem where too much brain makes you stupid. When I went back to training and simple physical labour. I was cured of mental gymnastics. Hence my avatar shifted from something clever which I can't remember, to 'lift heavy things' to 'dig holes'. The irony for me is, intellectuals now appear to be idiots. The Bomb? Case in point.

I found that a good way to compare and better understand people, nature, situations, events, is to place them on an axis instincts -> emotions -> intellect -> intuition. It isn't that it is better to be more on the intuition side than on the instincts side, as it can't be said that it is better to be a human than a pebble, an adult than a child, ... Something is on a certain level of evolvement on an infinite axis.

People's bell distribution is centered somewhere between emotions and intellect. The left-leaning intellectuals are skewed a little toward emotions, the right-leaning intellectuals are skewed a little toward intellect. This is why the right thinks the left is stupid, while the left thinks the right has no heart; the left believe they're smarter, the right believe they have more heart; eventually, the left ends up acting mean, while the right ends up acting stupid.

Not-thinking can be skewed either way, toward instincts or intuition. It could be an opportunity for a qualitative gain of evolvement, but unfortunately people decide and act mostly randomly, so according to the people's bell distribution, only a few have intuitive glimpses.

Intellectuals aren't idiots, as compared to other groups of population, more than children are idiots compared to adults, flowers are idiots compared to humans, ...

Thinking places humans on a higher level of evolvement, but the ability to think (which doesn't mean only intellect) varies widely among individuals, groups, ...

The good news is that even the dumbest humans, during their sleep, progress, evolve, although they aren't aware of that. So, all die a little (or more) evolved than were born, no matter what they did during their waking lives.

The modern left are bonkers. There will have to be a move to right in the West because the Left is completely demented. It's not really a shift to the right. It because the ideas that now define what is Left are too wacky. I'm from the old left, not commie, but aligned with social democrat ideas like equitable wealth distribution, access to social services, upward social mobility, social rights etc. This is opposed to wealth accumulating at the top 1% and having a deprived underclass. Ironic how that is now most prevalent in Blue cities. The left has gone from a collective premise to identity politics. It's a perverse view of 'what a person is'. It's now hard to tell the difference between left ideals and pedophilia in schools, and it's alarming that everyone is buying into this, or rather. pretending to out of fear of being punished. 

We're not idiots and we can see when people are bunging it on. 

It's become so ludicrous that 'the working class' is leaning right these days. The intelligentsia are the Blue base and they use virtue signals for social acceptability. There's lots wrong with the Left, but they really crossed a line when they started perverting our kids.

[lolly]

Old Dads starring Bill Burr is out on Netflix. Trailer is great.

[andrew]

Oct 21, 2023 1:27:58 GMT -5 lolly said:

Old Dads starring Bill Burr is out on Netflix. Trailer is great.

Count me in.

[lolly]

Watched a great doco on Netflix about an Aussie street-rap group trying to make it big in a Police State. Set in my town, Sydney. it's a deep one. Must watch.