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Post by lolly on Dec 2, 2013 0:41:42 GMT -5
You didn't listen very carefully because the video merely served as the platform for what you want to say... and that's a subject which wasn't mentioned in the video at all. There is no one with a platform. That would be a contradiction to the reality of Wholeness, of Freedom, of This. Just like there is no you who missed that glaring contradiction in Gangaji's video... Just like there is no seeker that needs help with addictions... It is a nonsense... There is just what's Happening, but it isn't Happening to a some one, to a seeker... And yet the dream of a some one, or seeker is Freedom...hehe There's some reason why your posts are not about the subject matter in the video, and there's a reason why my posts are on topic. My reason is, the subject is interesting to me, I was amazed by such an up front set of statements, and it's very interesting to me to hear how other people framed the subject and have a different perspective. In your case you don't actually talk about the subject itself. You are preoccupied with a 'message'. The video merely provided a little place for you to preach from. I mean, the focus is on your 'message', right? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 11:25:50 GMT -5
There is no one with a platform. That would be a contradiction to the reality of Wholeness, of Freedom, of This. Just like there is no you who missed that glaring contradiction in Gangaji's video... Just like there is no seeker that needs help with addictions... It is a nonsense... There is just what's Happening, but it isn't Happening to a some one, to a seeker... And yet the dream of a some one, or seeker is Freedom...hehe There's some reason why your posts are not about the subject matter in the video, and there's a reason why my posts are on topic. My reason is, the subject is interesting to me, I was amazed by such an up front set of statements, and it's very interesting to me to hear how other people framed the subject and have a different perspective. In your case you don't actually talk about the subject itself. You are preoccupied with a 'message'. The video merely provided a little place for you to preach from. I mean, the focus is on your 'message', right? There isn't some one preaching, but there is an apparently wonderful dream of lolly being a real person. And consistent with that dream are preachers, and dream teachers to help dream seekers find happiness, or love, or enlightenment. The message being communicated is the oldest and yet newest since the beginning of apparent time. It is the cornerstone of all religious dogmas...there is only Oneness, Wholeness, Freedom... There is no separate you or me, there is just what's Happening... And what's Happening is no one is communicating a message to no one. Freedom is pretending to be a person with a message and Freedom is pretending to be interested in videos that affirm an apparent real person named lolly... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 12:26:39 GMT -5
The addiction is simply observable. People experiencing addiction often need a lot of assistance, a change of environment and most leave a whole life behind them. The addiction is often a self medication that is used to repress deeply troubled parts of the psyche, and although they thought the addiction was bad, what underlies it is often much worse. One would expect their life to improve after the period of cold turkey, but often, ceasing to indulge is the start of the real problem. That's why a person facilitating satsangs, pretending to have answers, is unable to be of any practical assistance in day day life issues. I mean Gangaji has life issues of her own to contend with, much like you or I.There is no Gangaji, or you or me... There is just Freedom having life issues as Gangaji, or lolly, or trf... We are being dreamed... I dunno trf. I'm trying to understand the point of your constant interjections into conversations to say, "there is no you, no me, it's all being dreamed." Seeing that does not change the fact that in this moment, 'experience' IS. You can call it a dream, or an illusion or say it's not actually happening...but...so what? Does it change anything? It's akin to a bunch of kids enjoying themselves as they're engrossed in a game of hide-n-seek & one kids keeps popping up, interrupting them to announce, "Don't forget, This is just a game guys!" at various intervals. Can you explain (if you do) why you see this as an important thing to see/understand? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 14:00:22 GMT -5
There is no Gangaji, or you or me... There is just Freedom having life issues as Gangaji, or lolly, or trf... We are being dreamed... I dunno trf. I'm trying to understand the point of your constant interjections into conversations to say, "there is no you, no me, it's all being dreamed."Seeing that does not change the fact that in this moment, 'experience' IS. You can call it a dream, or an illusion or say it's not actually happening...but...so what? Does it change anything? It's akin to a bunch of kids enjoying themselves as they're engrossed in a game of hide-n-seek & one kids keeps popping up, interrupting them to announce, "Don't forget, This is just a game guys!" at various intervals. Can you explain (if you do) why you see this as an important thing to see/understand? can't understand it, Nobody can... Even if it could be understood it wouldn't be Freedom for the seeker... The message is about the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker simple expanding back into the totality...
Leaving what has always been here Nothing as Everything, but Nobody who knows it...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 14:31:01 GMT -5
The message is about the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker simple expanding back into the totality...
Yes, I've understood the message. But what I'm asking is if there is some point behind your constant and continued sharing of the message....It seems that the one who does not exist, but calls himself trf, sees it as important. How and why? Why is it important to see 'the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker'? & if it's not important, then my response to your posting of such a message is; So what? Who cares? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 15:11:52 GMT -5
The message is about the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker simple expanding back into the totality...
Yes, I've understood the message. But what I'm asking is if there is some point behind your constant and continued sharing of the message....It seems that the one who does not exist, but calls himself trf, sees it as important. How and why? Why is it important to see 'the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker'? & if it's not important, then my response to your posting of such a message is; So what? Who cares? No you haven't understood the message, it can't be understood... Stop this nonsense and go back to the dream of a real me who's lost something...  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 15:21:43 GMT -5
Yes, I've understood the message. But what I'm asking is if there is some point behind your constant and continued sharing of the message....It seems that the one who does not exist, but calls himself trf, sees it as important. How and why? Why is it important to see 'the contraction of energy that forms the illusory seeker'? & if it's not important, then my response to your posting of such a message is; So what? Who cares? No you haven't understood the message, it can't be understood... Stop this nonsense and go back to the dream of a real me who's lost something... There's no sense of loss in 'this' dream...or this life..whatever I choose to call it.....real or not....who knows and who cares? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 17:30:06 GMT -5
No you haven't understood the message, it can't be understood... Stop this nonsense and go back to the dream of a real me who's lost something... There's no sense of loss in 'this' dream...or this life..whatever I choose to call it.....real or not....who knows and who cares? Yes, Freedom doesn't know and Freedom doesn't care... All is good, it always has been...  |
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Post by laughter on Dec 2, 2013 18:50:54 GMT -5
I get the impression that when you say things like that about "enlightened people" that you're being, at least, to some extent, tongue-in-cheek. |
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Post by lolly on Dec 3, 2013 6:14:01 GMT -5
The addiction is simply observable. People experiencing addiction often need a lot of assistance, a change of environment and most leave a whole life behind them. The addiction is often a self medication that is used to repress deeply troubled parts of the psyche, and although they thought the addiction was bad, what underlies it is often much worse. One would expect their life to improve after the period of cold turkey, but often, ceasing to indulge is the start of the real problem. That's why a person facilitating satsangs, pretending to have answers, is unable to be of any practical assistance in day day life issues. I mean Gangaji has life issues of her own to contend with, much like you or I.There is no Gangaji, or you or me... There is just Freedom having life issues as Gangaji, or lolly, or trf... We are being dreamed... OK... you aren't really listening, so I waste energy speaking with you. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 12:01:55 GMT -5
There is no Gangaji, or you or me... There is just Freedom having life issues as Gangaji, or lolly, or trf... We are being dreamed... OK... you aren't really listening, so I waste energy speaking with you. Listening is Happening or listening isn't Happening... You think listening Happens to a person, yes?! This is where the paths apparently fork. One apparent path says there is Nobody listening (Wholeness) and the apparent path you are on says there is Somebody listening (Duality). I say apparent paths because in Reality there aren't separate paths, there is just THIS, just What's Happening, just Wholeness... |
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