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Post by nowhereman on Sept 6, 2013 17:39:45 GMT -5
Rare footage of Robert Adams satsang who was a disciple of RM
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 11, 2013 8:59:29 GMT -5
He is so ugly, but that's okay, because for some reason I tend to trust ugly people more than the pretty ones.
I watched the entire lecture, but I couldn't make much sense of it. What is his method? And how long does it take to achieve enlightenment with his method?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 22:11:30 GMT -5
He is so ugly, but that's okay, because for some reason I tend to trust ugly people more than the pretty ones. I watched the entire lecture, but I couldn't make much sense of it. What is his method? And how long does it take to achieve enlightenment with his method? I suspect that many of these guys talk about method, but what gets posted by other people is Dogma or some kind of description of the nature of stuff. Most folks don't seem to want to do the work to find out for themselves, they want to be spoon fed a version of truth that makes them feel good right now. |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 5:24:45 GMT -5
He is so ugly, but that's okay, because for some reason I tend to trust ugly people more than the pretty ones. I watched the entire lecture, but I couldn't make much sense of it. What is his method? And how long does it take to achieve enlightenment with his method? I suspect that many of these guys talk about method, but what gets posted by other people is Dogma or some kind of description of the nature of stuff. Most folks don't seem to want to do the work to find out for themselves, they want to be spoon fed a version of truth that makes them feel good right now. You mean that Mr.Adams also talked about method but they cut that part out? I doubt that tbh. Honestly I have no idea what goes on in the minds of other seekers. Most of them have a kind of simplicity, openness or love for themselves that it completely alien to me. Instead in me there is an extreme hatred for myself and for the world, a rejection of everything contingent and imperfect. For me spiritual practise is a way to do violence to existence, to humiliate it, to show it that even I, the useless ugly little shít that I am, can manipulate it into being better than it is by and of itself. Unfortunately my hatred is smaller than my lazyness and indifference, I think if I hated life even more than already then I might practise more. This is also why I'm not interested in finding out anything about existence. I just don't care one bit about it, I hate it too much. Instead all I want to do is manipulate and humiliate it. And if I can't do that then at least I want to throw it away like it's garbage. If there is anything higher to life than what I'm experiencing, and it's not present here and now, then it has betrayed me, and I don't tolerate betrayal. Sorry if all this sounds crazy, but it's the honest thruth of how I see the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 7:11:46 GMT -5
I suspect that many of these guys talk about method, but what gets posted by other people is Dogma or some kind of description of the nature of stuff. Most folks don't seem to want to do the work to find out for themselves, they want to be spoon fed a version of truth that makes them feel good right now. You mean that Mr.Adams also talked about method but they cut that part out? I doubt that tbh. Honestly I have no idea what goes on in the minds of other seekers. Most of them have a kind of simplicity, openness or love for themselves that it completely alien to me. Instead in me there is an extreme hatred for myself and for the world, a rejection of everything contingent and imperfect. For me spiritual practise is a way to do violence to existence, to humiliate it, to show it that even I, the useless ugly little shít that I am, can manipulate it into being better than it is by and of itself. Unfortunately my hatred is smaller than my lazyness and indifference, I think if I hated life even more than already then I might practise more. This is also why I'm not interested in finding out anything about existence. I just don't care one bit about it, I hate it too much. Instead all I want to do is manipulate and humiliate it. And if I can't do that then at least I want to throw it away like it's garbage. If there is anything higher to life than what I'm experiencing, and it's not present here and now, then it has betrayed me, and I don't tolerate betrayal. Sorry if all this sounds crazy, but it's the honest thruth of how I see the world. I like the truth. Keep it coming. It's inspiring. I don't see the ugly hate toilet world story as much different than what other seekers are dealing with. It's just a story. The trick here is to disengage from the story, as I understand it. The manipulating and humiliating existence part also seems part of the story. So when I say disengage, it doesn't sit in that category. Of course, I've got nothing to offer about disengaging. Got my own story going on (included in it is 'having nothing to offer'). |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 9:52:24 GMT -5
I don't see the ugly hate toilet world story as much different than what other seekers are dealing with. I think there is a big difference. The usual seekers seem kind of innocent to me, they still have that deep respect for "something higher". I've never heard a seeker talk about things the way I do. It's not "just a story". It's the truth. Life really is a mistake, it really is full of disappointment, pain and suffering, it really is obscenely unfair. Even Buddha and Jesus admitted this. To deny this is to play dumb and become a fake, and I don't do that. My mistake is that I still secretely believe in the "big Other" (Lacan/Zizek), toward who I address my laments, instead of accepting that yes, reality really is that brainfart stupid, and there really is nobody who is listening. The trick, if there is one, has nothing to do with any stories. It's just a brain mechanism that needs to be triggered. Seriously, what else could it be? Does anyone honestly believe that it could be something other than that? All the spiritual practises have no other function than to manipulate the brain, isn't that blatantly obvious? |
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Post by silver on Sept 20, 2013 10:34:58 GMT -5
I don't see the ugly hate toilet world story as much different than what other seekers are dealing with. I think there is a big difference. The usual seekers seem kind of innocent to me, they still have that deep respect for "something higher". I've never heard a seeker talk about things the way I do. It's not "just a story". It's the truth. Life really is a mistake, it really is full of disappointment, pain and suffering, it really is obscenely unfair. Even Buddha and Jesus admitted this. To deny this is to play dumb and become a fake, and I don't do that. My mistake is that I still secretely believe in the "big Other" (Lacan/Zizek), toward who I address my laments, instead of accepting that yes, reality really is that brainfart stupid, and there really is nobody who is listening. The trick, if there is one, has nothing to do with any stories. It's just a brain mechanism that needs to be triggered. Seriously, what else could it be? Does anyone honestly believe that it could be something other than that? All the spiritual practises have no other function than to manipulate the brain, isn't that blatantly obvious? Oh heck, you make me laugh. Love it. I'll have to check out 'Lacan/Zizek'. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 20, 2013 10:43:55 GMT -5
I don't see the ugly hate toilet world story as much different than what other seekers are dealing with. I think there is a big difference. The usual seekers seem kind of innocent to me, they still have that deep respect for "something higher". I've never heard a seeker talk about things the way I do. It's not "just a story". It's the truth. Life really is a mistake, it really is full of disappointment, pain and suffering, it really is obscenely unfair. Even Buddha and Jesus admitted this. To deny this is to play dumb and become a fake, and I don't do that. My mistake is that I still secretely believe in the "big Other" (Lacan/Zizek), toward who I address my laments, instead of accepting that yes, reality really is that brainfart stupid, and there really is nobody who is listening. The trick, if there is one, has nothing to do with any stories. It's just a brain mechanism that needs to be triggered. Seriously, what else could it be? Does anyone honestly believe that it could be something other than that? All the spiritual practises have no other function than to manipulate the brain, isn't that blatantly obvious? You do know that this whole hating yourself and the world is a cliche, right? ... hell, it's probably one of the things you detest about yourself the most!  It must burn yer ass that the only way through that are several other cliches of sincerity ... man that must suck ... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 11:04:35 GMT -5
I don't see the ugly hate toilet world story as much different than what other seekers are dealing with. I think there is a big difference. The usual seekers seem kind of innocent to me, they still have that deep respect for "something higher". I've never heard a seeker talk about things the way I do. It's not "just a story". It's the truth. Life really is a mistake, it really is full of disappointment, pain and suffering, it really is obscenely unfair. Even Buddha and Jesus admitted this. BS. Jesus said the Be Still thingy. That whole blah blah about life being a mistake and how that's truth and all that is why he said BE STILL. Okay commence whining about I can't be still -- it doesn't work for me, I'm really special because I can't do that blah blah blah. That's why Buddha sketched out in autistic detail how to still the mind. Aren't you special. Wow. I'm down with the brain mechanism idea. Maybe something will come of it in our lifetime. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 13:22:46 GMT -5
I love you Question.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 13:22:48 GMT -5
You do know that this whole hating yourself and the world is a cliche, right? ... hell, it's probably one of the things you detest about yourself the most! It must burn yer ass that the only way through that are several other cliches of sincerity ... man that must suck ... The only one here who sucks is you. |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 13:23:39 GMT -5
In before "not funny".
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 13:24:49 GMT -5
BS. Jesus said the Be Still thingy. That whole blah blah about life being a mistake and how that's truth and all that is why he said BE STILL. Okay commence whining about I can't be still -- it doesn't work for me, I'm really special because I can't do that blah blah blah. That's why Buddha sketched out in autistic detail how to still the mind. Jesus said in the desert "blah why have you forsaken me blah blah". Buddha said all life is suffering. Job asked God "the fúck did you do all that for?", and God replied, "sry buddy, but all of my creation sucks, I can't help it." etc etc Fúck off. I am special. Ásshole. |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 13:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Sept 20, 2013 13:32:24 GMT -5
Oh heck, you make me laugh. Love it. I'll have to check out 'Lacan/Zizek'. Thanks. Here's one on the "big Other". I think it's hard to understand it the first time. Just check out his other lectures aswell. It's worth it and it's going to make sense after a while. |
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