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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2013 11:22:09 GMT -5
What's a nonduality salon? It was one of the yahoo discussion groups. Not sure if they are still active? Nowhereman Edit yes still active. I have the direct link but you must join to post link
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 11:40:16 GMT -5
What's a nonduality salon? It's another place where one can avoid the truth.
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Post by Ishtahota on Sept 1, 2013 11:45:19 GMT -5
I went threw Jerry Katz Stuff years ago. His stuff is way off. The guy has no real experience's.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2013 11:52:13 GMT -5
I went threw Jerry Katz Stuff years ago. His stuff is way off. The guy has no real experience's. I dunno sort of harsh comment. In truth no one can tell what another one experience is or is not. Jerry K is not for me but I am sure he has a following, to each their own until Not. Nowhereman
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 12:08:58 GMT -5
I went threw Jerry Katz Stuff years ago. His stuff is way off. The guy has no real experience's. Well, his interest is in nonduality rather than Neo-New Age, so it may seem way off to you. If there's an issue with Jerry, it's not with his conceptual understanding of nonduality.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2013 12:16:14 GMT -5
I went threw Jerry Katz Stuff years ago. His stuff is way off. The guy has no real experience's. Well, his interest is in nonduality rather than Neo-New Age, so it may seem way off to you. If there's an issue with Jerry, it's not with his conceptual understanding of nonduality. I tend to agree also. Jerry does lean more towards traditional Advaita Vedanta than the every day pop up neo-advaita "teacher" It's more of the way he runs things that I had issue with. I think I got booted off his forum 3 different times for speaking my mind lol
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Post by silence on Sept 1, 2013 12:17:55 GMT -5
What's a nonduality salon? It's another place where one can avoid the truth. Oh. I was picturing Niz cutting someone's hair.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2013 12:20:43 GMT -5
It's another place where one can avoid the truth. Oh. I was picturing Niz cutting someone's hair. He could cut hair too! I know he could roll a beedi with one hand..
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 12:25:35 GMT -5
Well, his interest is in nonduality rather than Neo-New Age, so it may seem way off to you. If there's an issue with Jerry, it's not with his conceptual understanding of nonduality. I tend to agree also. Jerry does lean more towards traditional Advaita Vedanta than the every day pop up neo-advaita "teacher" It's more of the way he runs things that I had issue with. I think I got booted off his forum 3 different times for speaking my mind lol I wasn't posting there very long, though I'm thinkin I'm technically still a member, but my impression is that there's a crusty core group that follows Jerry's lead and conforms to his views, so it feels 'stuck'. Any new blood is quickly spilled and cleaned up. Hehe.
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 12:28:01 GMT -5
It's another place where one can avoid the truth. Oh. I was picturing Niz cutting someone's hair. That IS a terrifying image. Hopefully, they didn't let Niz handle sharp objects.
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Post by Ishtahota on Sept 1, 2013 13:50:23 GMT -5
Well, his interest is in nonduality rather than Neo-New Age, so it may seem way off to you. If there's an issue with Jerry, it's not with his conceptual understanding of nonduality. I tend to agree also. Jerry does lean more towards traditional Advaita Vedanta than the every day pop up neo-advaita "teacher" It's more of the way he runs things that I had issue with. I think I got booted off his forum 3 different times for speaking my mind lol Anyone who teaches non-duality knows that separatism is a symptom of duality consciousness. I called him on some of his stuff and was also banned from the site.
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 14:44:35 GMT -5
I tend to agree also. Jerry does lean more towards traditional Advaita Vedanta than the every day pop up neo-advaita "teacher" It's more of the way he runs things that I had issue with. I think I got booted off his forum 3 different times for speaking my mind lol Anyone who teaches non-duality knows that separatism is a symptom of duality consciousness. I called him on some of his stuff and was also banned from the site. So Jerry didn't know that separation was part of duality??
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Post by tzujanli on Sept 1, 2013 18:40:56 GMT -5
Greetings.. I tend to agree also. Jerry does lean more towards traditional Advaita Vedanta than the every day pop up neo-advaita "teacher" It's more of the way he runs things that I had issue with. I think I got booted off his forum 3 different times for speaking my mind lol I wasn't posting there very long, though I'm thinkin I'm technically still a member, but my impression is that there's a crusty core group that follows Jerry's lead and conforms to his views, so it feels 'stuck'. Any new blood is quickly spilled and cleaned up. Hehe. A model you are intimately familiar with, you call it 'Spiritualteachers.org'... Be well..
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Post by enigma on Sept 1, 2013 19:07:35 GMT -5
Greetings.. I wasn't posting there very long, though I'm thinkin I'm technically still a member, but my impression is that there's a crusty core group that follows Jerry's lead and conforms to his views, so it feels 'stuck'. Any new blood is quickly spilled and cleaned up. Hehe. A model you are intimately familiar with, you call it 'Spiritualteachers.org'... Be well.. You likely wouldn't survive past your second post there, and yet you thrive here with the same old bloody message month after month, so apparently this 'model' is quite different. The fact that a few peeps disagree with you on a regular basis doesn't imply some kind of forum dictatorship, it implies that a few peeps disagree with you on a regular basis. A few disagree with me too, and yet they somehow survive. I'm also not complaining about anything being stuck. There's also nobody following my lead. Aside from that, it fits the model perfectly.
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Post by tzujanli on Sept 1, 2013 22:00:47 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. A model you are intimately familiar with, you call it 'Spiritualteachers.org'... Be well.. You likely wouldn't survive past your second post there, and yet you thrive here with the same old bloody message month after month, so apparently this 'model' is quite different.The fact that a few peeps disagree with you on a regular basis doesn't imply some kind of forum dictatorship, it implies that a few peeps disagree with you on a regular basis. A few disagree with me too, and yet they somehow survive. I'm also not complaining about anything being stuck. There's also nobody following my lead. Aside from that, it fits the model perfectly. That you couldn't survive shouldn't be projected onto me, and yes.. you do complain a lot about peeps not agreeing with you.. and your "same old bloody message" is forged in your imagination and attached to as a stagnant belief.. here's my message: Be still, look and see what is actually happening.. there's no belief about 'oneness' in my message, not about non-duality, duality, separation, truth, etc.. there is no attachment to the stories and beliefs that have distorted people's clarity and led them into suffering and conflicts of ideologies, but.. there is the trust that the clarity born of a still mind's release of beliefs is sufficient to end the needless and preventable suffering of the human experience and of the environment, physical and spiritual, in which the human experience is actually happening.. Be well..
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