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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 6:57:22 GMT -5
As far as what Ramana said about I-I, it's actually a bad translation from the Tamil but it seems to have stuck as so many quote it from what's been published. What Ramana said in Tamil was I am I. In the Tamil language the am is implied and not written so in Tamil it appears as I I, but it was translated literally. Interestingly Ramana thought there was nothing better in Vedic scripture to compare with the Old Testament, I am that I am. (Exodus 3.14). I've checked out Ramana's talks about the I and the I-I and it is the equivalent to Seth's outer ego and inner ego. So your explanation seems somewhat bogus to me. As does yours to me. I've read many of these Seth quotes. It's a load of nonsense. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 6, 2017 9:10:40 GMT -5
I've checked out Ramana's talks about the I and the I-I and it is the equivalent to Seth's outer ego and inner ego. So your explanation seems somewhat bogus to me. As does yours to me. I've read many of these Seth quotes. It's a load of nonsense. How do you know ~reality~ is not structured the way Seth discusses it? |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 6, 2017 9:12:33 GMT -5
I've read many of these Seth quotes. It's a load of nonsense. All of it? Why? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 9:36:36 GMT -5
As does yours to me. I've read many of these Seth quotes. It's a load of nonsense. How do you know ~reality~ is not structured the way Seth discusses it? Does that mean you know it is? How do you know that humanity on this planet is not an experiment run by mice? How do you know.....where shall I stop with the how do you know this isn't true game where the onus is on you to prove everything I say or someone else says isn't true? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 9:41:27 GMT -5
I've read many of these Seth quotes. It's a load of nonsense. All of it? Why? Pity gopal isn't here to explain Tamil grammar to you. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 6, 2017 9:56:46 GMT -5
How do you know ~reality~ is not structured the way Seth discusses it? Does that mean you know it is? How do you know that humanity on this planet is not an experiment run by mice? How do you know.....where shall I stop with the how do you know this isn't true game where the onus is on you to prove everything I say or someone else says isn't true? I have found more sense than nonsense in Seth. (And just linked a book in a post (above), The Theory of Eternal Life by Rodney Collin to seems to agree with Seth in some respects. Collin was a student of PD Ouspensky, who seems to may have surpassed the teacher, wrote several significant books). |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 7, 2017 9:37:31 GMT -5
Pity gopal isn't here to explain Tamil grammar to you. You've got that from Gopal?  |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 7, 2017 10:00:51 GMT -5
Does that mean you know it is? How do you know that humanity on this planet is not an experiment run by mice? How do you know.....where shall I stop with the how do you know this isn't true game where the onus is on you to prove everything I say or someone else says isn't true? I have found more sense than nonsense in Seth. (And just linked a book in a post (above), The Theory of Eternal Life by Rodney Collin to seems to agree with Seth in some respects. Collin was a student of PD Ouspensky, who seems to may have surpassed the teacher, wrote several significant books). He can't hear you, SDP.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 12:22:30 GMT -5
Pity gopal isn't here to explain Tamil grammar to you. You've got that from Gopal? No I didn't, but gopal saw my post when I mentioned the correct translation of I-I before and he verified what I said about Tamil grammar. It's in the archive somewhere. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 7, 2017 17:52:21 GMT -5
I have found more sense than nonsense in Seth. (And just linked a book in a post (above), The Theory of Eternal Life by Rodney Collin to seems to agree with Seth in some respects. Collin was a student of PD Ouspensky, who seems to may have surpassed the teacher, wrote several significant books). He can't hear you, SDP. I think he thinks the answer is 42. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:37:35 GMT -5
He can't hear you, SDP. I think he thinks the answer is 42. I thought you were much further along in grasping the sheer simplicity of the ineffable truth which is beyond all concepts and beliefs. I thought that, despite knowing you were embroiled in the multi layered cake of Gurdjieff's teachings. But now this! These fantasy worlds of so called channelers that have attracted your interest and now seem to dominate the forum which is probably why the forum is dying, make the answer 42 simple in comparison to what these characters say. Give it up. There is no truth to be found here, only shiny trinkets to keep your mind forever amused. Isn't that their agenda? Don't make it yours. The truth is blindingly, ridiculously simple and you are already that truth. You don't need spiritual fantasy worlds to uncover it. You don't need to understand new concepts. You don't need Seth or whoever to tell you what it is. The more you get drawn in by this nonsense, the more trapped you will become in your own mind and the more remote you will become from your own Self. Heed my words. |
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Post by lolly on Jul 8, 2017 3:30:03 GMT -5
Wait - this is the Niz thread - wah's goin' on?
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Post by zendancer on Jul 8, 2017 7:02:50 GMT -5
I think he thinks the answer is 42. I thought you were much further along in grasping the sheer simplicity of the ineffable truth which is beyond all concepts and beliefs. I thought that, despite knowing you were embroiled in the multi layered cake of Gurdjieff's teachings. But now this! These fantasy worlds of so called channelers that have attracted your interest and now seem to dominate the forum which is probably why the forum is dying, make the answer 42 simple in comparison to what these characters say. Give it up. There is no truth to be found here, only shiny trinkets to keep your mind forever amused. Isn't that their agenda? Don't make it yours. The truth is blindingly, ridiculously simple and you are already that truth. You don't need spiritual fantasy worlds to uncover it. You don't need to understand new concepts. You don't need Seth or whoever to tell you what it is. The more you get drawn in by this nonsense, the more trapped you will become in your own mind and the more remote you will become from your own Self. Heed my words. The truth is indeed simple, and ideas can be a huge distraction. I suggest finding the truth first, and then see if it needs any elaboration or embellishment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 7:31:51 GMT -5
I thought you were much further along in grasping the sheer simplicity of the ineffable truth which is beyond all concepts and beliefs. I thought that, despite knowing you were embroiled in the multi layered cake of Gurdjieff's teachings. But now this! These fantasy worlds of so called channelers that have attracted your interest and now seem to dominate the forum which is probably why the forum is dying, make the answer 42 simple in comparison to what these characters say. Give it up. There is no truth to be found here, only shiny trinkets to keep your mind forever amused. Isn't that their agenda? Don't make it yours. The truth is blindingly, ridiculously simple and you are already that truth. You don't need spiritual fantasy worlds to uncover it. You don't need to understand new concepts. You don't need Seth or whoever to tell you what it is. The more you get drawn in by this nonsense, the more trapped you will become in your own mind and the more remote you will become from your own Self. Heed my words. The truth is indeed simple, and ideas can be a huge distraction. I suggest finding the truth first, and then see if it needs any elaboration or embellishment. Well that's just it ZD. Most seekers want the elaboration and embellishment first. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 7:36:05 GMT -5
I think he thinks the answer is 42. I thought you were much further along in grasping the sheer simplicity of the ineffable truth which is beyond all concepts and beliefs. I thought that, despite knowing you were embroiled in the multi layered cake of Gurdjieff's teachings. But now this! These fantasy worlds of so called channelers that have attracted your interest and now seem to dominate the forum which is probably why the forum is dying, make the answer 42 simple in comparison to what these characters say. Give it up. There is no truth to be found here, only shiny trinkets to keep your mind forever amused. Isn't that their agenda? Don't make it yours. The truth is blindingly, ridiculously simple and you are already that truth. You don't need spiritual fantasy worlds to uncover it. You don't need to understand new concepts. You don't need Seth or whoever to tell you what it is. The more you get drawn in by this nonsense, the more trapped you will become in your own mind and the more remote you will become from your own Self. Heed my words. The forum isn't dying. That's your mind talking. You are making a comparison to a memory. |
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