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Post by silver on Jun 26, 2013 21:24:48 GMT -5
What I don't perceive myself as is 'not nice'. Even when I'm approaching someone on a personal level, i don't see my self as being mean or belligerent in the approach. I do, however,often see the reactions as being that, and it seems natural to match that energy to some degree if there is to be a discussion at all. Hencely, I don't see the proposed division as between nice and not nice, but between personal and impersonal, which should effectively alter the perception of whether I am being nice or not. No one is talking about Silver's sniping or Tzu's, Bengst's, Laughter's mocking and Top's bullying. Hello!? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Shhhh.........is that a herd of crickets I hear?
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Post by Reefs on Jun 26, 2013 21:29:24 GMT -5
No one is talking about Silver's sniping or Tzu's, Bengst's, Laughter's mocking and Top's bullying. Hello!? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Shhhh.........is that a herd of crickets I hear? * contains mocking *
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Post by silver on Jun 26, 2013 21:37:54 GMT -5
Shhhh.........is that a herd of crickets I hear? * contains mocking * I'm sorry, but you're a constant inspiration. Is it a true that you never mock? or insult? or rant? or lie? I know you do all these and more, and yeah, sometimes it's 'for the good' of someone - but by no means is all of it constructive or however you might put a similar sentiment. I guess we love each other, else we wouldn't spend quite so much time being 'at' each other. You know what I mean? Don't sell me short - because we are all part of the same unit or oneness thing-a-ma-bob. Right? But, given some of the stuff you and other nonduallies say, are you really insulted when I say stuff? You were unhappy when I first came here and was all emo with poetry and stuff and I thought you were just trying real hard to get rid of me. I still think that, in spite of what others said that your severe confrontational style was all about. And you said as much last night. I can't help but chuckle at the notion that it's a lot like (well, actually loosely similar to) the two main characters in the movie, What About Bob?' *shrug* ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 26, 2013 21:48:56 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but you're a constant inspiration. Is it a true that you never mock? or insult? or rant? or lie? I know you do all these and more, and yeah, sometimes it's 'for the good' of someone - but by no means is all of it constructive or however you might put a similar sentiment. I guess we love each other, else we wouldn't spend quite so much time being 'at' each other. You know what I mean? Don't sell me short - because we are all part of the same unit or oneness thing-a-ma-bob. Right? But, given some of the stuff you and other nonduallies say, are you really insulted when I say stuff? You were unhappy when I first came here and was all emo with poetry and stuff and I thought you were just trying real hard to get rid of me. I still think that, in spite of what others said that your severe confrontational style was all about. And you said as much last night. I can't help but chuckle at the notion that it's a lot like the two main characters in the movie, What About Bob?' *shrug* ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) What I'm saying is that some squeaky wheels put on a broken record since years that only E & R mock. Which is a lie. Almost everyone is mocking. And there is a lot of mocking coming from others towards E & R. You included. Also Peter and Top. So it looks more than a bit disingenuous to just pin the entire "anti mocking and how can we stay asleep forever campaign" on the misbehavior of 2 guys when what they are doing isn't much different from what everyone else is doing anyway. I'm also sure you would behave much differently if Top wouldn't always play the helper. There's a lot of venom coming from your direction on a daily basis. You are quite capable of taking your stance. You don't have to be afraid of anyone.
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Post by silver on Jun 26, 2013 22:08:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but you're a constant inspiration. Is it a true that you never mock? or insult? or rant? or lie? I know you do all these and more, and yeah, sometimes it's 'for the good' of someone - but by no means is all of it constructive or however you might put a similar sentiment. I guess we love each other, else we wouldn't spend quite so much time being 'at' each other. You know what I mean? Don't sell me short - because we are all part of the same unit or oneness thing-a-ma-bob. Right? But, given some of the stuff you and other nonduallies say, are you really insulted when I say stuff? You were unhappy when I first came here and was all emo with poetry and stuff and I thought you were just trying real hard to get rid of me. I still think that, in spite of what others said that your severe confrontational style was all about. And you said as much last night. I can't help but chuckle at the notion that it's a lot like the two main characters in the movie, What About Bob?' *shrug* ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) What I'm saying is that some squeaky wheels put on a broken record since years that only E & R mock. Which is a lie. Almost everyone is mocking. And there is a lot of mocking coming from others towards E & R. You included. Also Peter and Top. So it looks more than a bit disingenuous to just pin the entire "anti mocking and how can we stay asleep forever campaign" on the misbehavior of 2 guys when what they are doing isn't much different from what everyone else is doing anyway. I'm also sure you would behave much differently if Top wouldn't always play the helper. There's a lot of venom coming from your direction on a daily basis. You are quite capable of taking your stance. You don't have to be afraid of anyone. No, of course you aren't the only ones who do that - but you two do instigate most of it - You are the most forceful and the most prolific 'mocker' and rant pretty much all the time - even though it isn't - it is your style and you just hammer away so often to so many, it's quite disconcerting..........So, in that sense, I do miss TGBHOB and the kitty kat gifs and all that - and yeah, it took a while to stand my ground - I'm not a 'natural' but thing did sort of develop. I don't think you need to exaggerate stuff as much as you do - I'm saying it's quite noticeable and I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices - and it's just not all that helpful or it creates an oppressive atmosphere a lot of the time. Oh - and thanks for <>>> ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by enigma on Jun 27, 2013 0:23:04 GMT -5
Greetings.. Dude! This is where the conversation is happening. RH has relatively few posts. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? I comprehend it well.. you gather people that agree on beliefs (RH), and there's no 'drama', so.. run back over to ST and stir some up, it's what you thrive on.. you post history is baiting people into drama, and pretending you have some messianic spiritual wisdom to save them from the drama 'you' created.. Be well.. Don't you ever get tired of this drama? What in the world keeps you going? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by enigma on Jun 27, 2013 0:30:43 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn't think so. The censoring of personal exploration will close down the most meaningful aspect of spiritual inquiry, (after all, it's not a conceptual exploration) while opening the door to egoic expression will likely result in more ugliness and venting, and even that need not be 'honest'in the sense of sincere or truthful. I think the honesty that Andrew is talking about is not having the threat of being banned cause some peeps to filter themselves. You might be concerned about more egoic responses, but the equal and opposite concern is that people filtering themselves might be holding them back from seeing themselves clearly. I don't think there is going to be a problem attracting the personal peeps into the unmoderated section, they can't help themselves. Your concern about their loss of forced exploration is moot given the ignore feature. Maybe. I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2013 0:39:57 GMT -5
Greetings.. I comprehend it well.. you gather people that agree on beliefs (RH), and there's no 'drama', so.. run back over to ST and stir some up, it's what you thrive on.. you post history is baiting people into drama, and pretending you have some messianic spiritual wisdom to save them from the drama 'you' created.. Be well.. Don't you ever get tired of this drama? What in the world keeps you going? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) !! Tzuracell® !!![](http://konkurs.podaruj.pl/multimedia/wallpapers/bunny3_wall800.jpg)
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Post by enigma on Jun 27, 2013 0:51:51 GMT -5
What I don't perceive myself as is 'not nice'. Even when I'm approaching someone on a personal level, i don't see my self as being mean or belligerent in the approach. I do, however,often see the reactions as being that, and it seems natural to match that energy to some degree if there is to be a discussion at all. Hencely, I don't see the proposed division as between nice and not nice, but between personal and impersonal, which should effectively alter the perception of whether I am being nice or not. No one is talking about Silver's sniping or Tzu's, Bengst's, Laughter's mocking and Top's bullying. Hello!? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I think they're focused on us because of the tremendous power you and I have here. Hehe.
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Post by enigma on Jun 27, 2013 0:55:19 GMT -5
Yeah, that sounds like the plan. Sounds like when the spiritual egos get angry they go into the adult area and when they feel hurt they go back into the kids area. That ensures maximum ego stability. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) That's quite likely. All I know is if you give ego a hammer to build sumthin with, they usually hit each other over the head instead. ![B-|](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/notamused.png)
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Post by enigma on Jun 27, 2013 1:07:09 GMT -5
Don't you ever get tired of this drama? What in the world keeps you going? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) !! Tzuracell® !!![](http://konkurs.podaruj.pl/multimedia/wallpapers/bunny3_wall800.jpg) ![](http://www.playiwa.com/images/world-champ/energizer-bunny.jpg)
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Post by andrew on Jun 27, 2013 2:22:39 GMT -5
Could be, but I think I'm being straight. Maybe you see enacting change in a system that isn't being perceived to work well as requiring aggression. I would say that it requires a level of 'dynamism', but not necessarily 'aggression'. I am not feeling aggressive on this subject but I am prepared to state a case. I also think its possible that you are projecting aggression onto me right now i.e. could be your aggression. Why the need to delineate? Why the meed to divvy up forum experience or delineate between 'my aggression'/'your aggression'? Only when we no longer feel the need to delineate or divvy up experience we can be truly free floating in outrageous joyous peace. ::sigh:: You really should look at that ego Reefs. I would be more than fine with just one section, an unmoderated one, but two sections seems like it might be better for the forum as a whole.
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Post by andrew on Jun 27, 2013 2:23:54 GMT -5
I do feel that the current rules have facilitated a particular issue which seems to me to be bugging the forum, but I am not experiencing any aggression towards the people involved though. At least I haven't today! Well, we all remember you 'idiot' and 'idiocy' comments lately. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) I can be aggressive, especially when responding to cretinous comments such as this one.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2013 2:53:41 GMT -5
Why the need to delineate? Why the meed to divvy up forum experience or delineate between 'my aggression'/'your aggression'? Only when we no longer feel the need to delineate or divvy up experience we can be truly free floating in outrageous joyous peace. ::sigh:: You really should look at that ego Reefs. I would be more than fine with just one section, an unmoderated one, but two sections seems like it might be better for the forum as a whole. I don't think you can sigh away your contradictions. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2013 2:55:23 GMT -5
Well, we all remember you 'idiot' and 'idiocy' comments lately. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) I can be aggressive, especially when responding to cretinous comments such as this one. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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