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Post by silver on Jun 10, 2013 10:16:43 GMT -5
I think he could've chosen some other phrase instead of 'greasy spot' - sounds like he's contemptful of that 'greasy spot' - sounds very yucky. Geez, it's just a little silliness. Heyeah, repeated like 20 billion times (It may have been funny the first couple of times you said it like before I even showed up here - back in naayon to 1852)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:16:48 GMT -5
I don't know, but I do appreciate you taking the time to write them your words (and Andrew's) did get the wheel's a spinning ... but I'm not sure if I went anywhere or not ;-) You might stick with "I don't know", and let clarity arise. It's difficult because there is a momentum of sorts, but why continue throwing rocks in the pond? :-)
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Post by someNOTHING! on Jun 10, 2013 10:19:39 GMT -5
Coz sometimes dropping everything we think we know just ain't enough on its own to halt a practiced and habitual flow of assumption and reification. But I get your point. Still itches, huh? Shocker.
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Post by andrew on Jun 10, 2013 10:25:23 GMT -5
Coz sometimes dropping everything we think we know just ain't enough on its own to halt a practiced and habitual flow of assumption and reification. But I get your point. Still itches, huh? Shocker. I have no interest and inclination to stand idiocy gladly on the forum at the moment. Probably best for both of us if you talk to people that don't think you are an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:25:29 GMT -5
Certainty is a theme that's been percolating. On the one hand it seems to be a by-product of plain-as-day realization (like SN explains above). When speaking from that perspective, communication comes across as certain. Regular folks can experience this by answering the question "do you exist?" (Note: any answer other than 'yes' indicates TMT. (but maybe I suffer from MAS?)) On the other hand there is feigned certainty. This is the type of certainty that is flagged as the primary symptom of Male Answer Syndrome (MAS), for example. While not necessarily a gender specific condition, it does seem to be frequently exemplified by those conditioned as males. Typically the subject in question can be totally wrong but sound authoritatively right. There can be certainty in style and certainty of content. One can argue for uncertain contents, but deliver this argument with great certainty. It seems to me that the certainty of style is what attracts the most attention. What is it about certainty that attracts adulation and attack? You're right, you can't manufacture it and thinking will never get you Here. But the sincerity of your effort to think it out can potentially wear down the size of ones molehill, by seeing just how much of a closed and confused system of thought it actually is. Maybe realization will happen, maybe it won't. Onward through the fog! Here's my chosen foghorn sound. When slowed down and played backwards you can actually make out "How can I be more sincere?"
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:32:45 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, You hafta add at least ZD and Silence, too, maybe even sN. They also speak with absolute certainty. But you probably can't see that because your focus is on style and not on content. When it comes to non-duality pointers, ZD, Silence and 'BlueEnigma' may differ in style, but not in content. Tzu's content, however, has nothing in common with any of the guys I just mentioned. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize please elaborate on that bolded sentence what is your interpretation of 'not-knowing'? Dear Dude/Dudette, What do you want me to elaborate on that? It's about truthin', of course, not if Tzu's guitar was actually stolen or not or if Laozi did actually write the Daodejing or not. About that kind of stuff we might actually bang heads, hehe. Provide a little more background about 'not-knowing', please. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:35:57 GMT -5
If it were anything but Latin, I wouldn't correct, but religio does not mean to bind. You're thinking of religo. Different term, though religio may have been derived from religo, going back to the Etruscans. Religio basically means "respect for what is sacred", which is essentially what it means today. Dear Dude/Dudette, I was actually hoping you would jump in here, B. Yeah, I've seen the same explanations elsewhere. So, what are you telling us here. There is no certainty? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:37:17 GMT -5
I might be wrong, but I thought Max understood that the dude was not me, but maybe what I said as a response lent to the idea that I am a church licker hehe. Yes it was all fun, in fact I bow to your good sense of humor! It was a hilarious bit of news and the guy in the photo looked a bit like that photo you posted a while back of yourself, so the universe conspired to make a little joke. Thanks for playing. And welcome back! Why not change your name to andrewperm? Dear Dude/Dudette, Andrew in full swing again. May I suggest "AndrewNeitherPermNorTemp"... Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:40:18 GMT -5
I might be wrong, but I thought Max understood that the dude was not me, but maybe what I said as a response lent to the idea that I am a church licker hehe. You mean, you're NOT the infamous church licker?! Aw, man. And, here, I'd gone and told all my friends that I knew that guy! Dear Dude/Dudette, Seems like you've got some egg on your face now. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:48:18 GMT -5
Yes, this is very honest. The paragraph explains, "I don't really know what 'not-knowing' means" and then goes on to speculate what it hopes "not knowing" means from the personal perspective. What hopes all this to be true, and why? Detach from it for a sec, put it out front and see it for what it is. The last sentence gives a clear indication that Andrew doesn't know, and has no idea what is actually meant by Truth Realization. Yet, rather than be curious, Andrew stands on his laurels and tries to speak from a position of authority. Again, I ask, what hopes that to be true, and why? What can confuse people on this board, if they haven't been HERE, is the ability to distinguish between Truth and falsity. That confusion reigns supreme in our little dreamscape and all the "evidence" of its dualistic reality, and then people go on and on trying to organize it with their confused mind, the one that houses the separate ego. The "evidence" is based on a single false premise. The mind's confused dreamscape reality gets a monkey wrench thrown in and it resorts to all sorts of antics and contortions to make it good and comfy again, even if it means judging, melting down, and seeking absolution in some way. Does the little you want a re-arranged prison cell and then the attached hope/fear that life won't come by a wreck it again? The ego's answer is re-sounding 'yes'. But, for some here, there is something inside, beneath the layers of thoughts, memories, conditioning, and other boolshiat. There's somenothing that appears to want to Realize that IT is (already) free. What? There's so much assumption, confusion, reification and plain wrongness in what you just said that I don't have it in me to pull it apart. You really should drop everything you think you know and start again sN. Dear Dude/Dudette, Whoa! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 10:50:33 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, That would be the opposite of what 'religion' means. Kinda funny how that turned out. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Yeah.....seems like most of the "great" world "teachers" failed miserably on that one ;-) But maybe there is a bigger picture that shows different. Who knows, I certainly don't lol Dear Dude/Dudette, Maybe a betterer question: Who cares? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:55:11 GMT -5
Yeah.....seems like most of the "great" world "teachers" failed miserably on that one ;-) But maybe there is a bigger picture that shows different. Who knows, I certainly don't lol Dear Dude/Dudette, Maybe a betterer question: Who cares? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Yep
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 11:01:04 GMT -5
Still itches, huh? Shocker. I have no interest and inclination to stand idiocy gladly on the forum at the moment. Probably best for both of us if you talk to people that don't think you are an idiot. Dear Dude/Dudette, Shocker! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Beingist on Jun 10, 2013 11:21:22 GMT -5
If it were anything but Latin, I wouldn't correct, but religio does not mean to bind. You're thinking of religo. Different term, though religio may have been derived from religo, going back to the Etruscans. Religio basically means "respect for what is sacred", which is essentially what it means today. Dear Dude/Dudette, I was actually hoping you would jump in here, B. Yeah, I've seen the same explanations elsewhere. So, what are you telling us here. There is no certainty? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize No. Just lettin' everyone know where the term 'religion' comes from.
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Post by Beingist on Jun 10, 2013 11:22:17 GMT -5
You mean, you're NOT the infamous church licker?! Aw, man. And, here, I'd gone and told all my friends that I knew that guy! Dear Dude/Dudette, Seems like you've got some egg on your face now. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Naw. That's okay. They don't really care about church lickers, anyway.
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