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Post by sadsack on Jan 13, 2017 6:57:13 GMT -5
When the Soul leaves the body to check-out what is about to come through an opening door and quickly returns to re-enter its falling fleshy-body before it falls too-far, it does so in the blink of an eye. Souls have the use of the Spirit and can go places they're thinking about sending thought-forms of its Self to the place they're going to visit at the next week, which can be noticed by sensitives already at the destination site, alerting them that your Soul will be visiting. Did those places exist before the thinking about them? Of course. Sometimes one will be taken, other times one will go where they want as in DESIRE... Evoking your Spirit is what you do when you as a hungry ghost seeks further knowledge. If NOT you, then I goes where I desire. ps, thanks for returning.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 7:08:28 GMT -5
Did those places exist before the thinking about them? Sometimes one will be taken, other times one will go where they want as in DESIRE... Evoking your Spirit is what you do when you as a hungry ghost seeks further knowledge. If NOT you, then I goes where I desire. ps, thanks for returning. Sorry, I understand now that you are talking about astral travelling, rather than the actual process of creation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 7:11:53 GMT -5
There you have it . If 'I' looked in the mirror hehehe . If you looked in the mirror it would not be empty of content . When the spirit is not of the body, the body can't stand upright, and perceive a reflection of the body . Perception only happens when you are present perceiving .. The ultimate level there is no 'I' or body that can cast a shadow or create a reflection . I dunno.... there appears to be empty presence within every experience.
www.swami-krishnananda.org/mundak/mun_3-1.htmlWhich can be filled by whatever is thought about.. |
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Post by sadsack on Jan 13, 2017 7:19:00 GMT -5
Of course.Sometimes one will be taken, other times one will go where they want as in DESIRE... Evoking your Spirit is what you do when you as a hungry ghost seeks further knowledge. If NOT you, then I goes where I desire. ps, thanks for returning. Sorry, I understand now that you are talking about astral travelling, rather than the actual process of creation. ok, dont feel sorry on my behalf. Some call it astral, in the esoteric realm its termed our 4th body, others simply call it dreaming. I am presently living in the land of dreamers; the Aborigine have been here over 80,000 years. |
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Post by sadsack on Jan 13, 2017 7:22:28 GMT -5
Which can be filled by whatever is thought about.. or left empty. The Buddists folk are into-GONE and come back laughing as their kundalini rises. I got my Sons steak well-done for once He is into it and I am about to go Dancing. Have a fun time peeps.  |
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Post by tenka on Jan 13, 2017 7:24:37 GMT -5
There you have it . If 'I' looked in the mirror hehehe . If you looked in the mirror it would not be empty of content . When the spirit is not of the body, the body can't stand upright, and perceive a reflection of the body .Perception only happens when you are present perceiving .. The ultimate level there is no 'I' or body that can cast a shadow or create a reflection . So in your language it is your spirit that is perceiving? The spirit can be related to the breath of life , At times I see the spirit as a diamond light that emanates from the core of an individual that is experiencing life beyond the physical . When the spirit / life force is not of the body then the body knows nothing, the physical eyes cannot be used to perceive, there is no sense of what you are that relates to the body or the world perceived or Self , karma, what is real etc .. The spirit is the life force, the battery that keeps the body doing what a body does . When the spirit is totally severed from the mind body the mind body dies, perception of the world dies with it . When the spirit is absent you can't drive a car otherwise you will end up in a ditch as said to hashi . If the spirit is of the body then one can have their attention on the road, on their dinner and also have relapses of memory of ever being aware of the road . When the spirit leaves hashi's body, the spirit leaves the body (not relating in the same context as God leaving the body) . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 7:27:30 GMT -5
Which can be filled by whatever is thought about.. Agreed. But aren't there exceptions to that also? In what way..? It's probably fair to say that it's never actually filled, it just appears to be filled by what is thought about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 7:28:58 GMT -5
So in your language it is your spirit that is perceiving? The spirit can be related to the breath of life , At times I see the spirit as a diamond light that emanates from the core of an individual that is experiencing life beyond the physical . When the spirit / life force is not of the body then the body knows nothing, the physical eyes cannot be used to perceive, there is no sense of what you are that relates to the body or the world perceived or Self , karma, what is real etc .. The spirit is the life force, the battery that keeps the body doing what a body does . When the spirit is totally severed from the mind body the mind body dies, perception of the world dies with it . When the spirit is absent you can't drive a car otherwise you will end up in a ditch as said to hashi . If the spirit is of the body then one can have their attention on the road, on their dinner and also have relapses of memory of ever being aware of the road . When the spirit leaves hashi's body, the spirit leaves the body ( not relating in the same context as God leaving the body) . So what happens in the context of God leaving the body? |
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Post by tenka on Jan 13, 2017 7:35:21 GMT -5
The spirit can be related to the breath of life , At times I see the spirit as a diamond light that emanates from the core of an individual that is experiencing life beyond the physical . When the spirit / life force is not of the body then the body knows nothing, the physical eyes cannot be used to perceive, there is no sense of what you are that relates to the body or the world perceived or Self , karma, what is real etc .. The spirit is the life force, the battery that keeps the body doing what a body does . When the spirit is totally severed from the mind body the mind body dies, perception of the world dies with it . When the spirit is absent you can't drive a car otherwise you will end up in a ditch as said to hashi . If the spirit is of the body then one can have their attention on the road, on their dinner and also have relapses of memory of ever being aware of the road . When the spirit leaves hashi's body, the spirit leaves the body ( not relating in the same context as God leaving the body) . So what happens in the context of God leaving the body? I would not relate to a context where God leaves the body . You implied that God and spirit mean't the same thing when I spoke of the spirit leaving the body) A context where God leaves the body would relate to someone who/m believes that God is something that can leave a physical body . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 7:46:14 GMT -5
So what happens in the context of God leaving the body? I would not relate to a context where God leaves the body . You implied that God and spirit mean't the same thing when I spoke of the spirit leaving the body) A context where God leaves the body would relate to someone who/m believes that God is something that can leave a physical body .You're almost saying here that God is, a physical body? |
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Post by tenka on Jan 13, 2017 8:03:18 GMT -5
I would not relate to a context where God leaves the body . You implied that God and spirit mean't the same thing when I spoke of the spirit leaving the body) A context where God leaves the body would relate to someone who/m believes that God is something that can leave a physical body .You're almost saying here that God is, a physical body? Nah, not in the slightest . You keep on making stuff up lol . You seem to be joining dots that are not there and coming up with some concoction that bears no resemblance to what I have said . I said, If someone believes that God is something that can leave a physical body .. that doesn't imply even remotely that God is a physical body lol . I haven't implied what God is or isn't other than if a peep wanted to relate to God that leaves the physical body then they would have a context relating to God that is something that can leave the physical body .. |
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Post by tenka on Jan 13, 2017 8:06:59 GMT -5
The spirit can be related to the breath of life , At times I see the spirit as a diamond light that emanates from the core of an individual that is experiencing life beyond the physical . When the spirit / life force is not of the body then the body knows nothing, the physical eyes cannot be used to perceive, there is no sense of what you are that relates to the body or the world perceived or Self , karma, what is real etc .. The spirit is the life force, the battery that keeps the body doing what a body does . When the spirit is totally severed from the mind body the mind body dies, perception of the world dies with it . When the spirit is absent you can't drive a car otherwise you will end up in a ditch as said to hashi . If the spirit is of the body then one can have their attention on the road, on their dinner and also have relapses of memory of ever being aware of the road . When the spirit leaves hashi's body, the spirit leaves the body (not relating in the same context as God leaving the body) . Hmmmm.. the body is still 'alive' though after death. If it wasn't, it would not decay, recycle with other elements, etc. The aliveness which animates everything continues to march... Well yes granted, there is a resonance / field of life that remains for a while pertaining to activity of one's cells . It's not exactly an immediate on / off switch . When the spirit has left the body so to speak and you are declared dead .. You can't walk around the bedroom looking at the mirror saying there is no-one in reflection being my point hehehe . You can't drive down the road for a 6 pack either being aware of driving or not for a while  . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 8:07:01 GMT -5
In what way..? It's probably fair to say that it's never actually filled, it just appears to be filled by what is thought about. Thanks. That was what I was going to attempt to articulate with the example of a mantra- starting out as a "thought, but it's really a vibration.... Ok.. yeah the submersion into the frequency of a resonate mantra can open up what is ready to be known or revealed. Have just had a brief read of your link The Mundaka Upanishad. There is much there for practical and inner contemplation. Mantra No.5.."Proper knowledge is equal vision, or perception of the one Atman in all. This is a function deeper than that of speaking truth or practising Tapas. It is a function of the spirit which realises itself in every form of existence." |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 8:10:54 GMT -5
You're almost saying here that God is, a physical body? Nah, not in the slightest . You keep on making stuff up lol . You seem to be joining dots that are not there and coming up with some concoction that bears no resemblance to what I have said . I said, If someone believes that God is something that can leave a physical body .. that doesn't imply even remotely that God is a physical body lol . I haven't implied what God is or isn't other than if a peep wanted to relate to God that leaves the physical body then they would have a context relating to God that is something that can leave the physical body .. I did say that you'd almost said it, which means that you didn't quite.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 8:12:26 GMT -5
Ok.. yeah the submersion into the frequency of a resonate mantra can open up what is ready to be known or revealed. Have just had a brief read of your link The Mundaka Upanishad. There is much there for practical and inner contemplation. Mantra No.5.."Proper knowledge is equal vision, or perception of the one Atman in all. This is a function deeper than that of speaking truth or practising Tapas. It is a function of the spirit which realises itself in every form of existence." I bookmarked it so I can come back to it later. Yeah and me, now. Thanks |
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