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Post by enigma on Dec 25, 2012 13:45:14 GMT -5
I really like Reefs' Ramana quote idea and we've agreed that a Nizarama thread (with the same rules of operation) can only elevate the focus of conversation around here. I'm not a guru scholar so your participation in adding your own Niz quotes is welcome.
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Post by enigma on Dec 25, 2012 13:48:06 GMT -5
"Experience, however sublime, is not the real thing. By its very nature it comes and goes. Self-realization is not an acquisition. It is more of the nature of understanding. Once arrived at, it cannot be lost."
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Post by andrew on Dec 26, 2012 3:50:01 GMT -5
“All you want is to be happy. All your desires, whatever they may be, are longing for happiness. Basically, you wish yourself well...desire by itself is not wrong. It is life itself, the urge to grow in knowledge and experience. It is choices you make that are wrong. To imagine that some little thing-food, sex, power, fame-will make you happy is to deceive oneself. Only something as vast and deep as your real self can make you truly and lastingly happy.”
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Post by Portto on Dec 26, 2012 12:43:25 GMT -5
"There are no steps to self-realization. There is nothing gradual about it. It happens suddenly and irrevocably. You rotate into a new dimension, seen from which the previous ones are mere abstractions. Just like on sunrise you see things as they are, so on self-realization you see everything as it is. The world of illusion is left behind."
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Post by Portto on Dec 26, 2012 12:44:16 GMT -5
"With some, realization comes imperceptibly, but somehow they need convincing. They have changed, but they do not notice it. Such non-spectacular cases are often the most reliable."
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Post by Portto on Dec 26, 2012 12:47:34 GMT -5
"If you seek reality you must set yourself free of all backgrounds, of all cultures, of all patterns of thinking and feeling. Even the idea of being man or woman, or even human should be discarded. The ocean of life contains all, not only humans. So, first of all abandon all self-identification, stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such or so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual, abandon every desire, gross or subtle, stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing."
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Post by enigma on Dec 26, 2012 15:04:30 GMT -5
"What is birth and death but the beginning and the ending of a stream of events in consciousness? Because of the idea of separation and limitation they are painful. Momentary relief from pain we call pleasure - and we build castles in the air hoping for endless pleasure which we call happiness. It is all misunderstanding and misuse. Wake up, go beyond, live really."
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Post by Reefs on Dec 27, 2012 6:59:15 GMT -5
"Realization is of the fact that you are not a person. Therefore, it cannot be the duty of the person whose destiny is to disappear. Its destiny is the duty of him who imagines himself to be the person. Find out who he is and the imagined person will dissolve. Freedom is from something. What are you to be free from? Obviously, you must be free from the person; you take yourself to be, for it is the idea you have of yourself that keeps you in bondage."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 7:10:59 GMT -5
It is pure awareness that knows ‘I am’. Who can understand that
illusory state? ‘I amness’ is illusory only. It is not a perfect state, it
is illusion. Who knows the illusion? A non-illusory state only can
know the illusory state.- Nisargadatta
Rest in awareness : ;D
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2012 13:07:47 GMT -5
Unless the ‘I am the body’ belief is present to some extent, there can be no possibility of having the thought ‘I am not the body’. Understand this paradox while doing the practice (‘sadhana’) only then would both ideas disappear.
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Post by Beingist on Dec 27, 2012 13:22:00 GMT -5
Reality is neither subjective nor objective, neither mind nor matter, neither time nor space. These divisions need somebody to whom to happen, a conscious separate centre. But reality is all and nothing, the totality and the exclusion, the fullness and the emptiness, fully consistent, absolutely paradoxical. You cannot speak about it, you can only lose your self in it. When you deny reality to anything, you come to a residue which cannot be denied.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 13:39:30 GMT -5
Unless the ‘I am the body’ belief is present to some extent, there can be no possibility of having the thought ‘I am not the body’. Understand this paradox while doing the practice (‘sadhana’) only then would both ideas disappear. Repetition of ‘Mantra’ takes one to the pure ‘I am’ state or ‘Sattva Guna’ and from there one merges into the source of all bliss, and then, all knowledge that you possess is laid down or surrendered and you merge with the Absolute beyond all name and form. -Nisargadatta  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 13:53:40 GMT -5
PDF download of Nisargadatta quotes from 10 of his books... 1. I Am That: 1 to 79 2. Seeds of Consciousness: 80 to 149 3. Prior to Consciousness 150 to 220 4. Consciousness and the Absolute: 221 to 259 5. The Experience of Nothingness: 260 to 295 6. The Nectar of Immortality: 296 to 341 7. The Ultimate Medicine: 342 to 396 8. Beyond Freedom: 397 to 451 9. I Am Unborn: 452 to 521 10. Gleanings from Nisargadatta 522 to 572 img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_162615739.pdf blessings  |
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Post by laughter on Dec 28, 2012 0:51:51 GMT -5
I find that somehow, by shifting the focus of attention, I become the very thing I look at, and experience the kind of consciousness it has; I become the inner witness of the thing. I call this capacity of entering other focal points of consciousness, love; you may give it any name you like.
Love says "I am everything". Wisdom says "I am nothing". Between the two, my life flows.
Since at any point of time and space I can be both the subject and the object of experience, I express it by saying that I am both, and neither, and beyond both.
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Post by Beingist on Dec 28, 2012 18:36:35 GMT -5
Q: Can I avoid this protracted battle with my mind?
M: Yes, you can. Just live your life as it comes, but alertly, watchfully, allowing everything to happen as it happens, doing the natural things the natural way, suffering, rejoicing -- as life brings. This also is a way.
Q: Well, then I can as well marry, have children, run a business… be happy.
M: Sure. You may or may not be happy, take it in your stride.
Q: Yet I want happiness.
M: True happiness cannot be found in things that change and pass away. Pleasure and pain alternate inexorably. Happiness comes from the self and can be found in the self only. Find your real self (swarupa) and all else will come with it.
Q: If my real self is peace and love, why is it so restless?
M: It is not your real being that is restless, but its reflection in the mind appears restless because the mind is restless. It is just like the reflection of the moon in the water stirred by the wind. The wind of desire stirs the mind and the 'me', which is but a reflection of the Self in the mind, appears changeful. But these ideas of movement, of restlessness, of pleasure and pain are all in the mind. The Self stands beyond the mind, aware, but unconcerned.
Q: How to reach it?
M: You are the Self, here and now Leave the mind alone, stand aware and unconcerned and you will realise that to stand alert but detached, watching events come and go, is an aspect of your real nature.
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