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Post by james on Nov 5, 2012 14:52:39 GMT -5
I vaguely remember someone here saying that they didn't know whether BK was properly awake, or had just figured out 'The Work' as a way to ease suffering in a 'self help' kinda way.
There's a book by BK called 'Losing the Moon' that I've seen described as 'her hidden work'. I think it demonstrates that it 'went all the way' as it were, although it's been a year of so since I read it. Here's a quote from the beginning of the book.
You can't buy this book new, and second hand copies I've seen cost from sixty dollars to three hundred and something. Thankfully you can read it on the internet (just search in Google).
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Post by enigma on Nov 5, 2012 17:33:08 GMT -5
Sounds groovy.
I might have been the one casting doubt on BK, but really I've heard enough that I don't really mean to. I was challenging the idea that sadness can't happen, which was put forward by her. I'm pretty sure I know what she means, but the idea can lead to erroneous conclusions about being dualistically happy all the time, so I think it's worth challenging. A teacher's words can be used as powerful evidence for some misconceptions if taken out of context or misunderstood.
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Post by james on Nov 6, 2012 2:50:18 GMT -5
I can understand why that book got pulled off the shelves and buried because even though I've heard some fairly hardcore things from BK in her more mainstream works, there are some things in this book that 99.9% of people would easily misinterpret and react badly to (e.g. Hitler being God, babies being thrown into pits of fire by concentration camp guards as 'undescribable love' etc).
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Post by jasonl on Nov 6, 2012 2:52:34 GMT -5
I can understand why that book got pulled off the shelves and buried because even though I've heard some fairly hardcore things from BK in her more mainstream works, there are some things in this book that 99.9% of people would easily misinterpret and react badly to (e.g. Hitler being God, babies being thrown into pits of fire by concentration camp guards as 'undescribable love' etc). I'm startin to like her more and more! |
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Post by nobody on Nov 9, 2012 3:51:30 GMT -5
Sounds groovy. I might have been the one casting doubt on BK, but really I've heard enough that I don't really mean to. I was challenging the idea that sadness can't happen, which was put forward by her. I'm pretty sure I know what she means, but the idea can lead to erroneous conclusions about being dualistically happy all the time, so I think it's worth challenging. A teacher's words can be used as powerful evidence for some misconceptions if taken out of context or misunderstood. That actually happened to me when I listened to your words, Byron's words, and Jed's words. Any teacher that talks about mind or ego is going to be misunderstood. As a result, the seeker will spin in circles until its clear that they have no idea what the teacher was talking about, or that any effort resulting from that misconception is totally futile. |
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Post by human on Nov 11, 2012 3:53:53 GMT -5
Obviously I need to get out more. Here I was only aware of her through 'the work'. She sounds admiringly badass!!!
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Post by sharon on Nov 16, 2012 3:50:22 GMT -5
“I love what I think, and I'm never tempted to believe it.” ~ Byron Katie.
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Post by silver on Nov 16, 2012 14:36:48 GMT -5
I can understand why that book got pulled off the shelves and buried because even though I've heard some fairly hardcore things from BK in her more mainstream works, there are some things in this book that 99.9% of people would easily misinterpret and react badly to (e.g. Hitler being God, babies being thrown into pits of fire by concentration camp guards as 'undescribable love' etc). So, how would you interpret, briefly, those kinds of sensational comments? |
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Post by sharon on Nov 16, 2012 14:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by sharon on Nov 16, 2012 15:20:27 GMT -5
" Can you know that Hitler didn't bring more people to realisation than Jesus? "
Page 39 of the book
Slide 29 of the above, electronic edition.
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Post by earnest on Nov 16, 2012 19:05:06 GMT -5
that's a pretty intense statement when I stop and think about it...
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Post by silver on Nov 16, 2012 20:30:28 GMT -5
I didn't get much use out of the link because it's such a poor copy, can barely read it, but what I could read, didn't make much sense to me. Can anyone explain what sounds like insanity?
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Post by silence on Nov 16, 2012 20:49:29 GMT -5
I find Byron Katie to be obnoxiously fake but that's only my biased perspective.
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Post by quinn on Nov 16, 2012 21:02:24 GMT -5
I didn't get much use out of the link because it's such a poor copy, can barely read it, but what I could read, didn't make much sense to me. Can anyone explain what sounds like insanity? Her website is www.thework.com/index.phpClick on the videos - since you like imagery  They're pretty amazing. There are loads on YouTube too. That book looks like a very early one - her more current books are probably a better place to start if you're interested in "The Work". I read the first 20 pages or so of this one till my eyes gave out. It's definitely more intense. What she teaches is a way to look at thoughts and question the truth of them. The process also shows, very clearly, who's responsible for our emotions. Who is it that makes us feel bad? Or good? I immersed myself in The Work for quite a while a few years ago and it really did a number on me. In a good way. |
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Post by silver on Nov 16, 2012 21:09:28 GMT -5
Hey, thanks Quinn.
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They're pretty amazing. There are loads on YouTube too.