Demonic attack in dream, self awareness saved me.

[fear]

I know this sounds crazy and I belive me when I say I questioned myself a hundred times before I came to the conclusion that there weren't too many other possiblities other than a demonic attack.

It started 2 days ago when I fell asleep on my couch and woke up at about 3am, I felt that I wasn't alone in my apartment, but I do live alone. I went to sleep and that night had a terrible nightmare where I was on a desolate island where the trees were bare and there was hardly any life except for a bunch of wolves. I was with a group of people and we were hunting wolves (I've never hunted before so don't know why we were hunting). Anyway to make a long story short, our group leader (named Bear) was attacked by a creature that was pretty hideous. It said "who is Bear". I remember being pursuaded by the creature to take it's side and I did not even know why but I did. As I took it's side I was pulled out of the scene and ended up in a place where I felt safe with an old man with a cane who said nothing but I felt he was good. There I met a friend who warned me not to believe what the creature on that island made me feel and that I should question it. At this point I looked out the window and saw a building with gargoyles on it and things crawling on the gargoyles. I was curious and wanted to check it out. My friend was still telling me to question it. When I did question it, I realized that I was being tricked. I woke up and was pretty freaked out all day that day. I've had nightmares before but not like this. I felt that the old man intervened and took me out of a bad place. The building with the gargoyles was a distraction from the advice my friend was giving me. Scary stuff.


Last night as I got into bed, my bed was shaking lightly, I looked around and could not find the source. It eventually stopped after a couple minutes. I prayed before I went to sleep and sometime during the night a different more terrifying than the first dream occured. I was with different friends in a school and for some reason terrifying thoughts were entering my head, every thought made me more and more afraid because I was identifying with them. This went on and on. At some point I realized that these thoughts are not mine and my whole being knew that these thoughts are not mine. I focused on my breathing and the thoughts kept coming but I allowed them to arise without identifying with them. I just focused on my breathing (in the dream). I then heared a horrible demonic laugh. It was so scary words could not describe. But yet I maintained my focus on my breath. The scene changed and I was on the street with another friend (call her Jane), who didn't seem herself, she asked me to call someone on the phone and I asked "why don't you call" somehow she convinced me to call, when I did I was distracted from my focus on breathing and was hit with fear again. I got a grip again and just allowed whatever arose to just be. Again the scene changed and I was with Jane's boyfriend Mike, who is also my good friend. He didn't seem himself either, his eyes were dark and evil. He was trying to convince me of his problems and I didn't take it on as my own as he wanted me to, I just allowed it to be, this made him angry, he tried something else, he showed me an ugly creature ripping something apart violently, I still allowed it to just be, he was getting angrier. Then we ended up outside a house and it was pitch dark and he rushed at me as if to attack. I was not scared and just let him attack, it did nothing. Then Jane started hitting on me (never saw her in this way) and kissed me and I kissed back for a second and realized this was wrong and I stopped. I knew it was another trick and I stepped back and allowed everything to do whatever it wanted without my participation. I was feeling poweful now and the fear was going away. Mike kept trying different things to get me to be afraid and do things that I did not want to do. I held my ground. At this point I woke up and felt such relief. I felt like the negative atmosphere in my apartment had lifted. I felt no fear and felt like I had fought a hard battle and won.

It's hard to relay a dream because it doesn't make much sense in the real world but in the dream, every action is done with the whole being, not just a simple thought, but the whole being. I have never been attacked like this before and it was an attack. Those evil thoughts arising and me identifying with them was absolutely terrifying and that evil laugh that arose out of nowhere was just not my doing. I knew that this was something outside of me doing this.

Any thoughts on this. Do you belive this was just a dream, I sure don't. I've had bad dreams but never never anything like this.
Why did this happen? Am I doing something wrong? Has this happened to anyone else?

[Peter]

Mar 18, 2009 18:08:52 GMT -5 fear said:

Any thoughts on this. Do you belive this was just a dream, I sure don't. I've had bad dreams but never never anything like this.
Why did this happen? Am I doing something wrong? Has this happened to anyone else?

Perhaps it happened because you were ready for it to happen. You sound like you feel you dealt with it successfully, so you obviously were ready.

I think dreams sometimes allow us to become conscious of progress that we've already made but aren't aware of. For example, I once had a fairly simple dream where I bought a newspaper and the vendor gave me too much change (like £500 too much). I went back to the shop and handed the money back. So when I woke up, I knew that my personal integrity was now worth more to me than material assets. It felt good anyway, wholesome.

Dreams about being attacked, yes very much so. Generally I find that as long as I keep fighting against my attackers, the dream will continue. A 'victory' is only won when I get into a place where I am neither running away or fighting. But there can be resistance: a sort of Tai-Chi style sweep where you just 'invite' your attacker to move around your body rather than into it. I think the important part is a feeling of confidence that you can handle the situation.

You say you think it's coming from outside of yourself (and calling it demonic is another way of externalising). I'm not going to accuse anyone of dualism here, but you could consider that the energy being used (if not the form) could be coming from yourself. I once tried to meditate after drinking too much and as soon as I sat down on my stool a voice in my head started screaming, shouting and swearing a torrent of abuse. At the time it felt very much like I was being attacked (or more accurately, criticised), but after about week I realised that that energy was actually my own anger at a friend of mine (who'd left his girlfriend pregnant and run off), which I'd been suppressing.

But regardless of whether it was caused by buried trauma, your physical environment, directed psychic attack, your own shadow self, negative archytypes of the collective uncouncious, hyperdimensional interference or spirit possession, it's still 'yours' to deal with, and it sounds like you dealt with it just fine. Resistance is futile. Anyhoo, hope you sleep better tonight.

[fear]

Thanks for that Peter, and you put it in a great way, no matter where the attack is coming from, within or outside, it's mine to deal with.

Would you believe, last night, fell asleep on the couch, woke up at about 3am, felt nothing in my apartment, the atmostphere was clear. Went to my bed, didn't pray for protection and slept like I haven't slept in weeks, didn't even remember my dreams. Absolutely amazing.

I read Richard Rose's book on meditation a while back, and he recommended 28 days of celibacy before meditating. The reason for this to conserve your energy to prevent entity distraction or worse, that's right a spirit outside of you attacking you.

In the search for truth, we must move away from untruth. I wanted to believe that it was just a bad dream, but that was proving untrue, I was aware of myself in the dream and evil thoughts were bombarding me. The thoughts being mine was proving untrue making the possibility of them coming from outside me more probable.

Read some quotes by Richard Rose, very interesting stuff

www.searchwithin.org/download/richard_rose_quotes_sexual_lifestyle.pdf

[Peter]

Mar 19, 2009 9:22:59 GMT -5 fear said:

The thoughts being mine was proving untrue making the possibility of them coming from outside me more probable.

Hi Fear. What was the proof that was 'proving' these thoughts were not yours? Is it possible you were dealing with a part of yourself that you do not yet recognise? The "shadow self" often appears in dreams as an externalised entity/enemy.

If you said 'feeling', then I'd run with it, but 'proving' is a big word. Personally I don't feel like I can prove anything very much right now. I like mint tea, that's about it. At least, I think I do.

That said, it does sound like whatever was troubling you has passed - glad your apartment is feeling clearer. I sometimes feel an uncomfortable presence in my son's room that seems to lift if I sit with him for a bit. Perhaps it's his own fear of being alone that's generating it.

I'll look up the Richard Rose link when I get home - thanks for that.

[fear]

Yes Peter it is possible but highly unlikely that I was dealing with my shadow self because at first I thougt the thoughts were mine. Then when I was aware of just my breathing and only observed myself, the thoughts were still coming. It's like me having a conversation with you face to face and me wondering if what you are saying is actually me saying it. It was so crystal clear that it was not me.

The proof was more than just a feeling. In a dream it's the whole being that acts. Adyashanti says sleep should not be called falling asleep but it should be called falling awake. So when I saw something it was unwavering, it was all or nothing. Once something was figured out it was just that, no hesitation or confusion, every action was one. Not sure if I'm making sense.

But in the end anything is possible, I don't know 100% for sure. It's more like 99%.

[lightmystic]

Hey Fear,

As one grows in energy, from spiritual growth or otherwise, then the need for energetic protection can often arise. More often than not this happens spontaneously, but for someone with more psychic energy some additional information can be useful. The trick is ultimately to take responsibility for the outside influence. I'm not saying it isn't outside you individually, as it appears to be (although ultimately is works out the same either way). By asserting your inner power through allowing that negativity (demon, energy, etc.) to be washed in that same Awareness that you are, it either dissipates and/or becomes friendly/benign. It's just bringing your attention to that energetic level, and you can start to recognize all the beings on that level. And you can allow your Awareness to pervade that to realize they are none other than this same Consciousness that you experience, that you Are.

Interestingly enough, I find that that appears to be exactly what you did, even if you didn't phrase it or frame it that way. You are eternal. And nothing can threaten you as long as it's recognized not to be something outside yourself.

But keep us updated, it sounds like you are working out something very important...

[fear]

Interesting remarks LM, so what you are saying is that whatever it was, it was within this same conciousness, meaning that I am not separate from it. So how did it become part of this conciousness? Was there, or is there something that allowed it to manifest?

When you say, "recognize all the beings on that level", what brings them there or is it like seeing a bird in a tree, it's just there and there is no rational reason.

What beings have you encountered? I'm curious.

[lightmystic]

Hey fear,

I've interacted with all kinds of beings at every level of existence. You name it, I've probably had some interaction with it. At this point, there isn't too much interaction unless there's a reason to, but the experience of all beings is certainly there on all levels of Creation.

I find that things come to us because life is helping give us what we need to get where we have asked it (directly or indirectly) to help us go. Thus, each thing is calculated to teach us something, help us get deeper in our purpose here and our discovery of who we really are. So the reason this came up is to bring your attention to something. If you're not sure what it is, you can ask life, and you can ask life to tell you in a certain way too. This kind of communication helps bring forth the underlying purpose in what you're doing and going through, which can be incredible helpful for keeping the direction you want.

Does that make sense?

Mar 28, 2009 12:48:18 GMT -5 fear said:

Interesting remarks LM, so what you are saying is that whatever it was, it was within this same conciousness, meaning that I am not separate from it. So how did it become part of this conciousness? Was there, or is there something that allowed it to manifest?

When you say, "recognize all the beings on that level", what brings them there or is it like seeing a bird in a tree, it's just there and there is no rational reason.

What beings have you encountered? I'm curious.

[fear]

It does make a lot of sense LM, but only as I'm reading this. I can't seem to reference all this "sense" when I'm actually in it. I'm not really afraid anymore of whatever arises in dreams, freaked out, yes, but not afraid. I was so used to categorizing things into my framework of thoughts and when things don't fit into that framework it is a little freaky.

You didn't really answer my question, maybe for a good reason, but I'll ask again, what specific types of being have you encountered? What types are there? Passed away humans, animals, living humans, angels, evil beings, what?

[lightmystic]

Alright, to give a sense of it:

I've met and interacted with

People that have left the physical body and are still on Earth (ghosts), people who have left the physical body and are in other planes, astral beings, causal begins, celestial beings (including angels, archangels, those that run heaven, etc.), Hell realms (demons, succubi, etc., and the multitude of various kinds), Councils of Masters (Ascended and otherwise), planet spirits, nature spirits, trickster spirits, spirit guides (animals, trees, people, etc. the whole range). Also, Gods of every realm and type and amount of power and knowledge, Avatars. That about covers the range....
It is pretty fascinating....

Mar 30, 2009 10:53:10 GMT -5 fear said:

It does make a lot of sense LM, but only as I'm reading this. I can't seem to reference all this "sense" when I'm actually in it. I'm not really afraid anymore of whatever arises in dreams, freaked out, yes, but not afraid. I was so used to categorizing things into my framework of thoughts and when things don't fit into that framework it is a little freaky.

You didn't really answer my question, maybe for a good reason, but I'll ask again, what specific types of being have you encountered? What types are there? Passed away humans, animals, living humans, angels, evil beings, what?

[Light2Light]

Hello seeker (a better name than fear).

Dreams mean what they mean only to the dreamer. I will not try to interpret these for you. But, from your questions, a few things are clear:

1). you are disturbed by your sense of "evil" in your dreams
2). you are also troubled by seeing yourself act in a manner not characteristic of you
3). you are searching for meaning in these experiences

First, it is admirable that you have a sense of rightness and wrongness about your experiences. This means that you are a principled person who wishes to do what is good in life. And this is my observation (not interpretation) on the first two points.
As to the third: it appears to me, as an outsider, that you are experiencing an awakening of sorts; your ideals are being called into question - being "tested" either by your subconscious or by Spirit (these things are hard to call).

I will add another point: the sense of the demonic is not uncommon in these types of dreams. There are different schools of thought on this. One says that this sense of "evil" is just our own inner world manifesting itself - that everything we dream is really "us" acting out our innermost desires, fears, and challenges as a form of self communication. This may indeed be true. But also, there is a demonic realm. And that realm does try, from time to time to invade our lives. I have a powerful bit of advice on this count:
From what you wrote in your first posting, I see that you have some religious background. The next time you have a dream where you question whether you are being attacked by demons, say this to them ( you now have the permission and authority to do so): "Stand in the Light of Christ". You may have to say this a few times - but if they are demons (and not your subconscious) they will flee. Demons fear that name.

Go fearless into your Dream

Light2Light

[fear]

The name fear represents who I am at this point.

Yes I am disturbed about evil in my dreams because it's not something we are raised to deal with. Most people including our parents just think of it as a bad dream and it leaves the dreamer with nowhere and no one to turn to for answers.

Whether the evil was within me or outside of me, I don't know what would have happened if I had lost that battle. What I do know is that ever since that dream I've slept well and I've learned to recognize darkness, whether it's from within me or not. I have learned to fill my body with light (imaginary light of course) and the result is a brilliant light that I can see within my imagination that takes away whatever darkness I may feel it there. Now this may all be tricking my mind in believing something else but whatever it is, it works.

[Peter]

May 23, 2009 4:34:12 GMT -5 @Light2Light said:

The next time you have a dream where you question whether you are being attacked by demons, say this to them ( you now have the permission and authority to do so): "Stand in the Light of Christ".

Hi Light2Light. I didn't follow this bit. Why, and in what way does Fear now have the permission and authority to say that? Why is permission required, and who or what event grants that authority?

Cheers,
Peter

[Light2Light]

The statement about permission was not about something I was giving to another ( I do not profess such a relationship) but was a message for the reader's subconscious.
Dreams, as you know work there magic largely in that part of the mind (though we may freely meander into other realms).
But doubt is a very powerful trigger for the subconscious - based on our old programs and orientations. So, there is needed another wordform to neutralize that doubt.
The word "permission" was offered as that secondary, positive trigger - that is to say, if the dreamer sets as his/her intention the practice offered in my last posting, then that intention becomes, by its nature, the "permission" that the subconscious may require.

Hope this clarifies


L2L

[Peter]

It does clarify, thanks L2L.