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Post by lemongrass on May 18, 2012 14:06:21 GMT -5
I don't get the orchestrated bit. That seems like a leap. Why couldn't it be that they're all following the same 'rules' (encoded or learned). Sort of like a fractal. It is undeniably beautiful, yes. Yea, it's probably more reflexive. sublime vid. edit: i'm thinking cellular automata Well, reflexive sounds a bit like instinctive, which is close to what I'm seeing. Instinct seems to be a word that really means 'collective mind'. 300,000 super intelligent humans trying to move like that in two dimensions would no doubt fall all over each other. Dunno what cellular automata means. This isn't really true, and the bird movement isn't that amazing imo. What about if each bird in general is just trying to stay close to its fellow birds without bumping into each other? Not that complicated or complex. Humans on the streets have their own individual ways to go, so you don't see such a thing. I have never seen a live show of 300k humans performing, but I have seen more amazing shows done by humans than I have ever seen done by birds. |
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Post by enigma on May 18, 2012 18:00:16 GMT -5
Which of those stories explains the 3000 mile exodus of the Monarch from several places in Canada to small forest in Mexico? It's obviously an integrated movement of a singular consciousness expressing in a multitude of forms. Obviously. |
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Post by enigma on May 18, 2012 18:02:03 GMT -5
Yeah, "awesome wonder" pretty much describes my reaction too. Not really waiting for the Gods to reveal the secret so much, though. Hehe. fwiw, I'm not waiting either. Awesome wonder plus mindstuff with questionmarks is fine. You make it sound like you have Awesome wonder with mindstuff and no questionmarks. Sounds about right. It's all mind stuff. |
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Post by enigma on May 18, 2012 18:06:22 GMT -5
Well, reflexive sounds a bit like instinctive, which is close to what I'm seeing. Instinct seems to be a word that really means 'collective mind'. 300,000 super intelligent humans trying to move like that in two dimensions would no doubt fall all over each other. Dunno what cellular automata means. This isn't really true, and the bird movement isn't that amazing imo. What about if each bird in general is just trying to stay close to its fellow birds without bumping into each other? Not that complicated or complex. Humans on the streets have their own individual ways to go, so you don't see such a thing. I have never seen a live show of 300k humans performing, but I have seen more amazing shows done by humans than I have ever seen done by birds. I'm pretty sure you don't think these bird clouds are choreographed and rehearsed. |
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Post by Beingist on May 18, 2012 19:25:48 GMT -5
fwiw, I'm not waiting either. Awesome wonder plus mindstuff with questionmarks is fine. You make it sound like you have Awesome wonder with mindstuff and no questionmarks. Sounds about right. It's all mind stuff.  |
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Post by silence on May 18, 2012 20:02:54 GMT -5
Sounds about right. It's all mind stuff. Is that Mr.G?  |
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Post by enigma on May 18, 2012 21:12:02 GMT -5
Is that Mr.G? Why do you think B chose that particular picture?  |
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Post by silence on May 19, 2012 8:22:25 GMT -5
Is that Mr.G? Why do you think B chose that particular picture? Uh oh, are we gonna have to do an exorcism on Beingist? |
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Post by Beingist on May 19, 2012 9:07:31 GMT -5
Why do you think B chose that particular picture? Uh oh, are we gonna have to do an exorcism on Beingist? I could probably afford some exorcise, actually.  |
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Post by enigma on May 19, 2012 9:53:03 GMT -5
Why do you think B chose that particular picture? Uh oh, are we gonna have to do an exorcism on Beingist? It may be too late. He's obviously a puppet on Mr G's string. |
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Post by silence on May 19, 2012 10:11:38 GMT -5
Uh oh, are we gonna have to do an exorcism on Beingist? It may be too late. He's obviously a puppet on Mr G's string. RIP Beingist. |
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Post by Beingist on May 19, 2012 10:46:52 GMT -5
It may be too late. He's obviously a puppet on Mr G's string. RIP Beingist. Okay, now I'm lost. Who the heck is this Mr. G you guys are talkin' 'bout? He got something to do with the free will thing? |
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Post by silence on May 19, 2012 14:31:31 GMT -5
Okay, now I'm lost. Who the heck is this Mr. G you guys are talkin' 'bout? He got something to do with the free will thing? Very clever there Mr.G ;D |
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Post by enigma on May 19, 2012 15:31:23 GMT -5
Okay, now I'm lost. Who the heck is this Mr. G you guys are talkin' 'bout? He got something to do with the free will thing? Very clever there Mr.G ;D HA! He almost fooled me. Really gotta stay on your toes around Mr G. |
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Post by Beingist on May 20, 2012 9:31:15 GMT -5
Very clever there Mr.G ;D HA! He almost fooled me. Really gotta stay on your toes around Mr G. Hmmm. Okay, well, sometimes, when I have questions (like, who exactly is this Mr. G under discussion), I'll ask a few times directly, and when my question isn't answered, I allow for the fact that it just isn't mine to know or understand, at that time. So, if you want to think the guy in the pitcher is Mr. G (kinda looks like Roy Orbison to me), or even that I'm Mr. G, so be it. Whoever this Mr. G is.  |
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