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Post by question on May 16, 2012 15:14:00 GMT -5
Aha, now that's interdasting. So interdasting that you didn't read the rest of the paragraph? If you say one thing and then two words later contradict it then why to even say it? Yes, so interdasting. |
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 15:18:35 GMT -5
Perhaps the brain's being situated in the head has to do with its function as a "descrambler" of sensory information? The heart and intestines have their own neural networks; no doubt it all relates to the chakra system. Maybe our putting so much emphasis on the brain/thought and so little on heart/feeling and gut/instinct is similar to having higher centers activated without the lower? We end up living inside a conceptual model of reality - a super-complex thought form or "bardo realm." Just THINKING (ha) out loud here. Please disregard the high concepts. I am proving my own point, i fear. Agreed. Hey! We have to think. I like your insights on the chakras, too. Prana (life energy) is prior to mind. Here's the way I see a wholly integrated mind- body- spirit. Every now and again I'll be outdoors and see a flock of geese flying overhead. Maybe they'll turn one way, as One, and then another way, as One. This is WAAAAAY beyond mind. It's all being orchestrated. Another example would be a woman. The heart is fully beating, she's breathing, she's sitting at a piano playing, feet moving to the beat, she's pregnant, and having a really good time. She's not thinking about any of the functions described. Those are all being orchestrated. She's just enjoying the playing of the music. Keep it coming, Jasun.  |
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 15:26:10 GMT -5
Our hands and feet can breathe as well. Did ya feel ya feet? Did ya did ya? I did! I did! |
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Post by enigma on May 16, 2012 19:07:59 GMT -5
The good ole boy story had a similar delusional tone to it as the Freejoy stories, yes. I don't have a problem with your challenges, but it seems you're the one who has an ax to grind. I'm pretty clear about your projections of delusion. No axe here, junior. You simply keep putting your ego out there to be admired is all. It ain't gonna happen. Then what if you were to simply not admire? It seems like it would be effortless to me. |
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Post by enigma on May 16, 2012 19:09:13 GMT -5
So interdasting that you didn't read the rest of the paragraph? If you say one thing and then two words later contradict it then why to even say it? Yes, so interdasting. Yes, that's why I asked myself the same question at the end of the post. |
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Post by enigma on May 16, 2012 19:17:11 GMT -5
Perhaps the brain's being situated in the head has to do with its function as a "descrambler" of sensory information? The heart and intestines have their own neural networks; no doubt it all relates to the chakra system. Maybe our putting so much emphasis on the brain/thought and so little on heart/feeling and gut/instinct is similar to having higher centers activated without the lower? We end up living inside a conceptual model of reality - a super-complex thought form or "bardo realm." Just THINKING (ha) out loud here. Please disregard the high concepts. I am proving my own point, i fear. Agreed. Hey! We have to think. I like your insights on the chakras, too. Prana (life energy) is prior to mind. Here's the way I see a wholly integrated mind- body- spirit. Every now and again I'll be outdoors and see a flock of geese flying overhead. Maybe they'll turn one way, as One, and then another way, as One. This is WAAAAAY beyond mind. It's all being orchestrated. The first time I saw something like this, I was in awe as to how a bunch of bird brains could dance together with such instantaneous precision. I've since come to see that bird brains....don't. |
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Post by enigma on May 16, 2012 19:24:19 GMT -5
No, it's the opposite. I'm addressing the separation implied by the body having it's own wants and needs apart from mind. The suggestion that the mind exists as anything other than a function of the body already requires a degree of separation. At least, that was what I was trying to get at in the OP. Simply put: "body" refers to a perceivable "objective" reality; "mind" only refers to a process we call thinking, which so far as we know, may originate in the body exactly as breathing or farting does. The suggestion that the body exists as anything other than an extension/aspect of mind already requires a degree of separation. |
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Post by enigma on May 16, 2012 19:27:19 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night that whole notion of a self separate from the body may arise from the basic fact that four of our five senses are located in the head. This creates a "perceptual bias" in which the organism becomes "top-heavy" so to speak and we begin to experience a perceiving self (head) that is separate from the body. Rezzin with that. |
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 19:28:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty clear about your projections of delusion. No axe here, junior. You simply keep putting your ego out there to be admired is all. It ain't gonna happen. Then what if you were to simply not admire? It seems like it would be effortless to me. I'm way beyond admire. I love you. Believe me, it's effortless. |
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 19:32:30 GMT -5
Agreed. Hey! We have to think. I like your insights on the chakras, too. Prana (life energy) is prior to mind. Here's the way I see a wholly integrated mind- body- spirit. Every now and again I'll be outdoors and see a flock of geese flying overhead. Maybe they'll turn one way, as One, and then another way, as One. This is WAAAAAY beyond mind. It's all being orchestrated. The first time I saw something like this, I was in awe as to how a bunch of bird brains could dance together with such instantaneous precision. I've since come to see that bird brains....don't. Cool. Thanks! I'll check it out at the library tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 12:51:43 GMT -5
Agreed. Hey! We have to think. I like your insights on the chakras, too. Prana (life energy) is prior to mind. Here's the way I see a wholly integrated mind- body- spirit. Every now and again I'll be outdoors and see a flock of geese flying overhead. Maybe they'll turn one way, as One, and then another way, as One. This is WAAAAAY beyond mind. It's all being orchestrated. I don't get the orchestrated bit. That seems like a leap. Why couldn't it be that they're all following the same 'rules' (encoded or learned). Sort of like a fractal. It is undeniably beautiful, yes. The first time I saw something like this, I was in awe as to how a bunch of bird brains could dance together with such instantaneous precision. I've since come to see that bird brains....don't. Yea, it's probably more reflexive. sublime vid. edit: i'm thinking cellular automata |
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Post by question on May 17, 2012 13:32:25 GMT -5
Patterns. They are all you need to create the illusion of intelligence.
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Post by lemongrass on May 17, 2012 17:05:56 GMT -5
Patterns. They are all you need to create the illusion of intelligence. Yeah too bad actual intelligence will never be aware of its intelligence. Or should I say too good? |
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Post by question on May 17, 2012 17:44:37 GMT -5
Patterns. They are all you need to create the illusion of intelligence. Yeah too bad actual intelligence will never be aware of its intelligence. Or should I say too good?  |
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Post by silence on May 17, 2012 18:03:45 GMT -5
Yeah too bad actual intelligence will never be aware of its intelligence. Or should I say too good?  |
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