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Post by andrew on Feb 26, 2012 3:35:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry it took me a few days to get back on here.I know I sound like a broken record but THANK YOU all for taking the time to write your advices!!I think the reason I am looking for "that magic healing" is because I get it,I know exactly what I need to do to be happy,and if i really think about it,I know how to do it as well..Yet everyday I wake up and CHOOSE to be sad and not make any effort to save myself.That is my major problem,although I am really insightful,and ironically the person many fam and friends go to for help and advice.I don't do what I clearly know I need to to be happy or at least work towards it.THAT is the one thing i can't understand or "fix".I beat myself up everyday for wasting my life,I feel like I blinked and 10 years passed by and I dragged my feet through it.What the heck is wrong with me??How can i know what to do and how to do it and choose NOT to do it.The best way I can explain it is I am too Tired to bother.I know how it sounds but I have no other way to describe it!even w/all this knowledge I am my own worst enemy I and only I am standing in the way of my own life.WHY would anyone do this to themselves on purpose??!That don't know I am starting to think I am crazy!I live in a mind that knows better but does'nt do better. so yeah if I felt like john of god or any other crazy thing actually had even a chance of working I would go exhausted and ready to surrender.as I am obviously not capable of helping myself.:-( Hey Stylechild, I understand what you are saying there, and I think its good that you have seen that you are choosing to be sad. A thought that occurs to me is that you could buy a couple of hypnosis cds....for example www.hypnosisdownloads.com. They would help you to choose to face in a forward, positive direction.... you may see a big difference even within the space of a month. You could also look at some flower essences to take in the meantime, and take a look at your diet. NLP is also very forward facing. And as I said, Spiritual Response Therapy is a great healing modality. I understand what you mean about the 'too tired to bother'. In this situation what would be helpful is to set some goals for the future and make them extremely compelling. Make those goals so vibrant, and juicy, and joyful, and fun, that in the process of setting them, you begin to FEEL vibrant, juicy, joyful and fun. In the process of doing that, you will be giving your brain an instruction to achieve those goals (and in the end, our brain is always following our instructions). The book 'Ask And It Is Given' would be a good one. Have a look at some Anthony Robbins videos on youtube as well. Rather than spend energy on thinking about WHY you arent choosing to feel good, use that energy to find out how to get into the habit of choosing to feel good. I dont know if you joined other forums but also have a look at www.spiritualforums.com. Its a big forum with loads of cool people. Maybe it would be good for you to explore being part of a big community like that. |
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Post by stylechild30 on Feb 26, 2012 23:09:31 GMT -5
Thanks I am sure I will have many questions as I delve into all these great recomendations.i did join that forum per someone's advice here,I look forward to making new friends as i try to journey thru and change my life!XOXO
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Post by enigma on Feb 27, 2012 17:15:03 GMT -5
It's not politically correct to suggest that depression has nothing to do with your life circumstances, which is even subjectively confirmed by the one who has had an "amazing life". Just as it's not about doing the right things, it's also not about finding the right physical, mental or spiritual healing modality, though that may be the story through which some change will be played out. Even chemical abnormalities in the brain is a physical expression of thought and not the cause.
Depression, like all other mind states, including happiness, is a result of thoughts, and in this case the thoughts are suggesting there's a problem with the current experience. The solution is going to be difficult to find if the problem is not more than an idea that is believed for some reason.
You don't actually have a reference for happiness outside of your own experience of it. It's not possible to know what it is unless you have experienced it, and even that experience begins fading fairly quickly when it's not happening anymore. If happy experiences don't keep happening, it becomes progressively more important to keep reminding yourself how depressed you are or you will literally forget that you are depressed. Thinking about it, seeking a way out, and asking others for advice is a good way to reinforce this idea, which by now has become a part of the identity.
You can't actually stay either happy or depressed for any length of time without a great deal of effort, though letting go of the effort doesn't seem like a good idea because you think your goal is to be happy and you don't figure you can get there without effort. Really, what folks want, though they don't usually know it, is to get off the happy/unhappy roller coaster all together, which is Peace. Not the peace of getting what you want, but the Peace of no longer wanting.
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Post by andrew on Feb 27, 2012 17:54:00 GMT -5
Hey stylechild, I just saw this and you crossed my mind so I thought I would share it. I think it looks really good, I love the simplicity and ease of it. Check it out. www.mirmethod.com/ |
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Post by stylechild30 on Mar 2, 2012 0:32:32 GMT -5
enigma,Wow! that makes so much sense and of all the unhappy/happy questioning I have done thru the years 'peace ' has never occured to me.thanks
and andrew i am checking the link out now:-)
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Post by esponja on Mar 2, 2012 1:52:22 GMT -5
It's not politically correct to suggest that depression has nothing to do with your life circumstances, which is even subjectively confirmed by the one who has had an "amazing life". Just as it's not about doing the right things, it's also not about finding the right physical, mental or spiritual healing modality, though that may be the story through which some change will be played out. Even chemical abnormalities in the brain is a physical expression of thought and not the cause. Depression, like all other mind states, including happiness, is a result of thoughts, and in this case the thoughts are suggesting there's a problem with the current experience. The solution is going to be difficult to find if the problem is not more than an idea that is believed for some reason. You don't actually have a reference for happiness outside of your own experience of it. It's not possible to know what it is unless you have experienced it, and even that experience begins fading fairly quickly when it's not happening anymore. If happy experiences don't keep happening, it becomes progressively more important to keep reminding yourself how depressed you are or you will literally forget that you are depressed. Thinking about it, seeking a way out, and asking others for advice is a good way to reinforce this idea, which by now has become a part of the identity. You can't actually stay either happy or depressed for any length of time without a great deal of effort, though letting go of the effort doesn't seem like a good idea because you think your goal is to be happy and you don't figure you can get there without effort. Really, what folks want, though they don't usually know it, is to get off the happy/unhappy roller coaster all together, which is Peace. Not the peace of getting what you want, but the Peace of no longer wanting. Exalt. |
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Post by stylechild30 on Mar 3, 2012 23:39:00 GMT -5
checked out the mir method yesterday..does'nt get any simpler then that! I started doing it yesterday,if I can't try and follow thru with something as simple as this method then i'm definitely in trouble! I keep you posted on how it goes.anyone tried this before?
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Post by stylechild30 on Mar 4, 2012 18:04:05 GMT -5
I have been folowing the advice of a few posts here,mir method and eft being one of them to name a few.I know that I would need some guidance to start any kind of therapy or technique.How do I find a good healer or therapist that specializes in these type of therapies in my area?I live in illinois,in a northwest suburb of chicago.anyone know where I can go?Or where to even search for such a thing?what are these therapists called?thanks guys!
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Post by andrew on Mar 4, 2012 18:25:09 GMT -5
Hey stylechild, I have done a lot of exploration on different modalities and techniques in the last year or so, and I think that an effective, and also reasonably priced method is 'Spiritual Response Therapy'. Google it and see what you think. If you want the name of a practitioner that I am familiar with, let me know. If money is an issue, there really are a lot of people out there offering free healings of different kinds these days. There are a ton of Reiki healers out there who work for free, again just google and explore. A hypnosis cd might be helpful for you too. I still think it would be helpful to understand the relationship between mind-emotions-body.....Byron Katie, Abraham-Hicks, The Sedona Method, Ho'oponopono - are all very practical and day to day. Take care.
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Post by andrew on Mar 5, 2012 7:27:01 GMT -5
Some more recommendations, the first two I have some personal experience of, but the last two I have looked at and thought they look good....all practical and day to day. Have fun exploring!
The Healing Code, Access Consciousness, The Silva Method, Matrix Energetics
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