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Post by question on Oct 29, 2011 17:30:06 GMT -5
My God, my God why have you forsaken me? Good question. What was his answer? |
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Post by Portto on Oct 29, 2011 17:50:01 GMT -5
My God, my God why have you forsaken me? Good question. What was his answer? As far as I remember, there was no answer  But some thunder, lightning, and rain followed. And an earthquake. |
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Post by question on Oct 29, 2011 18:07:39 GMT -5
I knew it. I goddanm knew it.  Klaus, please don't ask stupid questions anymore. |
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Post by klaus on Oct 29, 2011 18:19:47 GMT -5
Question,
Somebody has to ask them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 19:18:23 GMT -5
maybe it's more like the relationship to intuition is kaput not the intuition itself? like all of a sudden intuition isn't a visitor or a resource to be drawn upon, but a fulltime always on. and because there's a loss of imagined perspective of intuition vs non-intuition, things are 'weird.' ??
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Post by vacant on Oct 29, 2011 21:11:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty much down with intuition as I equate it with clarity, but I never saw it as guidance. Come to think of it, maybe I did for a little while, but it collapsed pretty quickly in the realization that there is no guide. As I said in another thread, there's nobody out there who gives a da*n about you, which doesn't sound sound too cool until you realize there's no 'out there'. Guidance is only needed withing the paradigm of me having to make my way through the maze of the world as though I have to make the right choices. That's likely why your teacher said intuition would have to go too. Aaah, ooh, err... wow! Yeah, very interesting. |
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Post by enigma on Oct 30, 2011 0:37:37 GMT -5
My God, my God why have you forsaken me? Good question. What was his answer? Well, he told me "It's not my turn to watch you." |
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Post by angela on Oct 30, 2011 8:44:13 GMT -5
i really genuinely was curious about other folks loss of knowing, experiences around that etc. instead, i got a bunch of commentary and interpretation of my experience, which does me just about as good as my intuition these days. boys. sheesh.  |
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Post by question on Oct 30, 2011 8:57:54 GMT -5
Angela, what did you expect? Good question. What was his answer? Well, he told me "It's not my turn to watch you." Oh noes. Without divine guidance, how is it possible to live?   |
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Post by angela on Oct 30, 2011 9:33:19 GMT -5
eh. i give up. love you guys.  |
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Post by zendancer on Oct 30, 2011 11:01:00 GMT -5
eh. i give up. love you guys. Yes! Please give up completely. Give up so completely that you don't know anything and don't care about not knowing anything. You already know that you're home, and you also know that you are always doing what you have to be doing. How do I know this? Because you're doing it, so don't make up a story that you don't know what to do. Whatever you do in the next five minutes or the next five years will be precisely what you know you have to be doing. After we no longer know anything, we then go beyond not-knowing. We can't even talk or write about what is beyond not knowing, but it is captured in the Ryokan poems posted on another thread and in E.'s response. Is there still an Angela who feels weird? Then that must mean that Angela is still hanging around somewhere, imaginatively. One of these days YOU are going to get tired of lugging that crazy girl around! Girls! sheesh! They're almost as loony as boys. LOL |
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Post by klaus on Oct 30, 2011 13:32:46 GMT -5
My God, my God why have you forsaken me? And God replied, "I haven't forsaken you, I've crucified you." |
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Post by Peter on Oct 30, 2011 15:07:43 GMT -5
i haven't really written a thread in a while, haven't had much to say. the last 6 months or so i've fallen away from any desire really to talk about all this. I've been very quiet here also in the last wee while; but I read your latest (?) post in this thread complaining that you didn't get the response you were looking for, so that's motivation enough for me to put fingers to plastic. anyway. here it is today and life feels..... well, odd beyond description. i have no more strong inner "yes" or "no" to life left. there's just this. and i don't know how to move anymore, what to do, where to go, anything. Interesting. My own relationship with my intuition is quite...chatty. It's like I ask a question, and then I get this burst of info and it's like my brain then has to unpack that and read it out which (because it's in my head) is done with my "voice" so it's a bit like talking to myself. Often I find that if I understand a situation sufficiently to formulate a coherent question about it, then the answer is self evident. Where I've had experience somewhat similar to yours is when I'm heading into a difficult experience - for example one time I was going out with a girl and (thought I) fell in love with someone else. And in situations like that I get absolutely nothing back, just silence. Which is quiet unnerving. I have a strong feeling at those times that I've got a life lesson heading my way and it's completely up to me how I'm going to handle it - like it would be a violation of my free will to give me any advice on the issue. Perhaps you're being asked to work something out for yourself for a change. It does sound like the "mundane" side of your life might need some attention? Good luck, Peter |
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Post by question on Oct 30, 2011 15:45:07 GMT -5
My God, my God why have you forsaken me? And God replied, "I haven't forsaken you, I've crucified you." Jesus... you must have really gotten on his nerves. |
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Post by kate on Oct 30, 2011 21:37:06 GMT -5
Hi Angela. I remember the sense of having lost touch with my intuition/inner guide. Although for me it marked the start of my spiritual search. I don't remember how it happened exactly, just that the compass was missing. The clear sense of a right direction was gone. I was immobilized and unable to make choices. What happened slowly, and is still happening, was the replacement of that sense of personal knowing with a trust of an impersonal movement. Somehow the line between inside and outside started to fade and the need for something inside "me" to direct "my" involvement in things "out there" disappeared and everything that's happening is part of one movement that seems to have love at its steering wheel. And the more clearly I see that, the more the trust grows, the more openness there is, the more perfect everything seems. I look at how I see things right in this moment, and I might not be an enlightened being, I might not have an abiding sense of what I really am, but it is still so much more than I ever would have dreamed of, that I can only trust whatever is going on.
Anyway, I know all of this might not speak directly to what you are talking about but I just wanted to say that I understand about the no strong inner "yes" or "no". Fortunately, because life is movement, the movement will happen anyway, and maybe all you can do for now is be a passenger, enjoy the scenery and wait for the weirdness to pass.
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