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Post by calmheart222 on Jan 31, 2009 5:09:01 GMT -5
This is part two of a three part series on the violence committed against women. When we live in a world where abuse is common, it is easy to point our finger at other cultures and say our conduct is not that bad. Certainly, rationalization is the usual reponse. But in order to bring about healing, peace, and love, we might consider the following scripture, "don't look at the twig in your brothers eye look at the tree in your own". It would be easy to point a finger at other countries and say "they are the worst", but in order for healing to take place, our time and energy is best served by acknowledging our own contribution to the global problem, as can be plainly seen from the following statistics.
In the US, women age 12 or older annually sustained almost 5
million violent victimizations .
Women and girls ages 12 and up annually reported about 500,000 rapes and sexual assaults, almost 500,000 robberies, and about 3.8 million assaults.
WHO ARE THE ABUSERS
In 29% of all violence against women by a lone offender (in the US) the perpetrator was an intimate (husband,ex-husband, boyfriend or ex-boyfriend).
Women annually reported about 500,000 rapes and sexual assaults Friends or acquaintances of the victims committed over half of these rapes or sexual assaults. Strangers were responsible for about 1 in 5.
HONOR KILLINGS IN AMERICA?
Of the 5328 women murdered in annually, FBI data indicate that about half or more of them were committed by a husband or boyfriend.
VIOLENCE AMONG COUPLES
A minimum of 16 % of American couples experienced an assault during the year they were asked about it, and about 40% of these involved severely violent acts, such as kicking, biting, punching, choking, and attacks with weapons.
A national poll found that 34% of adults in the United States report having witnessed a man beating his wife or girlfriend and that 14% of women report that a husband or boyfriend has been violent with them.
Also, 1 in 4 college women can expect to be sexually assaulted at some point during their time in school.
THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE
CAUSED TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY ABUSE
During the last decade, domestic violence has been identified as one of the major causes of emergency room visits by women.
From 20% to 30% of the women who are seen by emergency room physicians, all of them exhibit at least one or more symptoms of physical abuse.
10% of the victims were pregnant at the time of abuse.
10% reported that their children had also been abused by the batterer.
THE ECONOMIC FACTOR IN WOMEN'S ABUSE
*Women aged 19 to 29 and women in families with incomes below $10,000 were more likely than other women to be victims of violence by an intimate family member.
These statistic are alarming to say the least. What can be done to end this epidemic that seems to flourish through out every land? I am of the opinion that more spiritual teachers are needed in order to educate the masses on spirituality on the quantum level. First, I believe it is imperative to understand that although the regions of assault and abuse variy, the conducts we see are simlar. That is, they are the same irrespective of geological boundaries, and occured well before we had the internet, written records, or even before we communicated on telephones. The common practices of abusing women were engaged in on one level or aother. The fact is THAT WE ARE ALL CONNECTED ON THE QUANTUM LEVEL. Dr Martin Luther King Jr. said, "We are caught in a inescapable nework of mutuality, a web connects all man- kind so that the things we do, or the spirit we release into the universe has a profound effect upon the whole of mankind" (see hyper communication). Until we treat the problem from a holistic point of view we continue to permit violence against women to flourish. With every incident of cruelty against women, we weaken the threads of our human family.
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Post by dwbh1953 on Jan 31, 2009 7:41:09 GMT -5
Dear Calmheart,
I can really feel for these women and this situation however at least for myself I am thinking is this board a appropriate place for this kind of posting. I will just leave it at that and let LM and others comment further. Also please remember what the great sages have said. Everything is perfect as it is. I know that it probably sounds really cold after a post like yours but I do believe that this is true.
Peace
Randji
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Post by always learning on Jan 31, 2009 12:41:54 GMT -5
Dear randy
thanks for your helpful advice.on a quantum level we are all connected.the primary make up of the human family is yin yang/male female .Im just the messenger .The sentiment of all is important to me particularly the ones abused,We are all yin and yang but the male species has run the gamut.by being out of balance with this wholistic biological makeup.giving birth to the abusive male ego[ have you ever heard of a female ego].I lecture at various location and many people share your views,its interesting that they are all male,I want to understand more about the sage you mentioned please share.peace
calmheart
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Post by dwbh1953 on Jan 31, 2009 12:59:05 GMT -5
Dear randy thanks for your helpful advice.on a quantum level we are all connected.the primary make up of the human family is yin yang/male female .Im just the messenger .The sentiment of all is important to me particularly the ones abused,We are all yin and yang but the male species has run the gamut.by being out of balance with this wholistic biological makeup.giving birth to the abusive male ego[ have you ever heard of a female ego].I lecture at various location and many people share your views,its interesting that they are all male,I want to understand more about the sage you mentioned please share.peace calmheart Understood on a Quantum level everything is related and no website in the world would be large enough to contain the data..my point is as another person ask what is the revelance here? Ok no problem on the sage but which one I mention lots of them here. Peace Randji |
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Post by lightmystic on Jan 31, 2009 13:09:49 GMT -5
Calmheart-
Thanks for your post. It brings up some real darkness and pain for us to look at in ourselves. Only those who are deeply cut off from themselves can read these accounts without compassion, but the pain that makes you hurt because of them is a pain that is in your heart right now. That is what I've always found. It's a fear that brings about resistance. Just gently sitting with these painful feelings, without necessarily associating them with the abuse (which is merely the trigger for the pain to come to the surface) will allow it to work itself out. It allows the heart to expand. To see the underlying rightness in every situation, even if it's just a slight sense of it, even under the most extreme circumstances...
This is a good way to resolve all of this pain. Resolving those kinds of things to the point where I could feel a nice heart flow instead of pain was difficult, but it can certainly be done. Eventually it is sure to resolve itself if one allows those resistances, feelings, and fears to be....
What do you think?
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Post by dwbh1953 on Jan 31, 2009 13:22:06 GMT -5
Calmheart- Thanks for your post. It brings up some real darkness and pain for us to look at in ourselves. Only those who are deeply cut off from themselves can read these accounts without compassion, What do you think? Hi LM, Well I feel no pain when I read Calmheart post but I very much doubt I am cut off of myself as you say. It is one thing to read and have compassion and then to look at the wholeness of life and see that even this is OK and it is quite another to look into this and whale with emotions. At this very moment there are millions of sad things going on in the world, millions of babies dying because of no food, rape, murder the whole world is filled with it. What you need to do is to go down into the micro level and take each experience as its own and everything that is in that experience of everyone that is involved and when you do that you will see that everything is perfect and makes sense.but when you go macro on it you blow evrything up and it looks horrible. There is a perfect reason for every action that happens, at least that is my experience. Peace Randki |
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Post by kappa on Feb 1, 2009 0:51:18 GMT -5
“Everything is perfect and makes sense”. Let’s analyze that. Yes, I agree, everything is the way it is supposed to be and therefore makes sense because everything that exists is manifestations of consciousness. In other words, what we think, feel, and do becomes manifest in our physical world. It works that way every time and is therefore perfect. However, to just sit back and say, “everything is as it should be” and leave it at that as if all is therefore well and we should just let it be, is something entirely different. What I think Calmheart is saying with his paper is that we could just as easily create and manifest a beautiful world without horrific violence towards women…or towards anyone, for that matter. I also believe he is saying that the way to create a world without the horrific violence described in his paper, is by first acknowledging we are all responsible for it, and second by changing our consciousness from destruction and hatred towards women, to respect and love for women and all of woman/man-kind. We are all One and when we hurt one member of our human family, we hurt all of our human family, including ourselves. We are all One.
Love and peace to you my brothers,
Kappa
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Post by dwbh1953 on Feb 1, 2009 9:24:14 GMT -5
However, to just sit back and say, “everything is as it should be” and leave it at that as if all is therefore well and we should just let it be, is something entirely different. Hi Kappa, Really why would you say this. I will give you a clue here and also LM knows this to be true. This is exactly what we need to do nothing! the problem is when we interfere and try to make things better that we foul up.What you posted above is exactly what needs to be done. If you want the world to change then you do nothing. This is a mystery that you will not understand unless you are awaken to the fact that things are never as they seem. Peace Randji |
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Post by lightmystic on Feb 1, 2009 13:21:47 GMT -5
Randiji,
Well I feel no pain when I read Calmheart post but I very much doubt I am cut off of myself as you say.
If there's pain, it means there's pain in you. If not then there either isn't pain in you or you are cut off. Those are the two options. I find that when there isn't pain in me and I'm able to be open with it, there is a heart flow of compassion (which is not sadness or pain). The sadness or pain otherwise felt is the heart trying to grow to encompass more of it.
It is one thing to read and have compassion and then to look at the wholeness of life and see that even this is OK and it is quite another to look into this and whale with emotions.
Right, that is what I'm saying.
At this very moment there are millions of sad things going on in the world, millions of babies dying because of no food, rape, murder the whole world is filled with it.
Yes, but it's only sad to the extent that we haven't had the chance for our hearts to deal with it. Sadness is the heart trying to make more room, trying to expand.
What you need to do is to go down into the micro level and take each experience as its own and everything that is in that experience of everyone that is involved and when you do that you will see that everything is perfect and makes sense.but when you go macro on it you blow evrything up and it looks horrible.
It sounds a little bit like a mind rationalization here. It's not necessarily supposed to be "okay" or "right." As a human being it's natural not to feel good about those things, but that doesn't make them something that shouldn't happen, and there's nothing wrong with not liking it happening.
There is a perfect reason for every action that happens, at least that is my experience.
Yes, mine too. On a deep heart level. Everything else is just rationalization, positive or negative....
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Post by lightmystic on Feb 1, 2009 13:31:49 GMT -5
Hi Kappa, Yes, I agree, everything is the way it is supposed to be and therefore makes sense because everything that exists is manifestations of consciousness. In other words, what we think, feel, and do becomes manifest in our physical world. It works that way every time and is therefore perfect. Sure, that my experience too. However, to just sit back and say, “everything is as it should be” and leave it at that as if all is therefore well and we should just let it be, is something entirely different. Unless you have a personal desire or need to change it that is not coming from lack, sadness, and pain, there is no reason to do anything. The problem otherwise is the not accepting the internal feeling, the internal pain, violence, fear, etc.. And no amount of trying to change outside circumstances will ultimately solve that pain. It's just trying to remove that everything that could trigger the pain already there. That doesn't make sense... What I think Calmheart is saying with his paper is that we could just as easily create and manifest a beautiful world without horrific violence towards women…My small little personal world does not have violence towards women. If I see it happen, I stop it, if I see a recording of it, then I have it in perspective...It's not something I want. It's not ideal, but it's okay...I've internalized enough of my feelings about it to genuinely be okay with it on a deep level. That doesn't necessarily mean I've internalized every ounce of it yet, but things are moving in that direction.... I also believe he is saying that the way to create a world without the horrific violence described in his paper, is by first acknowledging we are all responsible for it, and second by changing our consciousness from destruction and hatred towards women, to respect and love for women and all of woman/man-kind.I have plenty of love and respect for women-kind. I do not condone and would not ever do any of the things described....There, I changed my world...  We are all One and when we hurt one member of our human family, we hurt all of our human family, including ourselves. We are all One.
Because we are really not separate, we cannot be hurt. And act of hurting is also part of us. The sooner that is accepted and made peace with the sooner that one can really allow ALL of it, and I do mean ALL, to be recognized as themselves. That is the knowledge of self realization when accepted at the deepest level... Do you see what I'm saying? |
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Post by dwbh1953 on Feb 1, 2009 13:51:03 GMT -5
Randiji, Well I feel no pain when I read Calmheart post but I very much doubt I am cut off of myself as you say. If there's pain, it means there's pain in you. If not then there either isn't pain in you or you are cut off. Those are the two options. I find that when there isn't pain in me and I'm able to be open with it, there is a heart flow of compassion (which is not sadness or pain). The sadness or pain otherwise felt is the heart trying to grow to encompass more of it. It is one thing to read and have compassion and then to look at the wholeness of life and see that even this is OK and it is quite another to look into this and whale with emotions.Right, that is what I'm saying. At this very moment there are millions of sad things going on in the world, millions of babies dying because of no food, rape, murder the whole world is filled with it. Yes, but it's only sad to the extent that we haven't had the chance for our hearts to deal with it. Sadness is the heart trying to make more room, trying to expand. What you need to do is to go down into the micro level and take each experience as its own and everything that is in that experience of everyone that is involved and when you do that you will see that everything is perfect and makes sense.but when you go macro on it you blow evrything up and it looks horrible.It sounds a little bit like a mind rationalization here. It's not necessarily supposed to be "okay" or "right." As a human being it's natural not to feel good about those things, but that doesn't make them something that shouldn't happen, and there's nothing wrong with not liking it happening. There is a perfect reason for every action that happens, at least that is my experience.Yes, mine too. On a deep heart level. Everything else is just rationalization, positive or negative.... Hi LM, Actually we agree on every point here you just missundersood a small point I was making..no big deal at all Cheers Randj |
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Post by Kappa1 on Feb 1, 2009 15:00:27 GMT -5
Hello brothers, and thank you for all of your replies, I truly appreciate each and every one of them.
It is clear to me that I have not clarified myself enough, so hopefully, this response will do so.
One of you mentioned there are many horrific things and events taking place in our world each and every day. I agree. We also, I believe, agree upon that many of those include violations of women, and Calmheart's writings were focused upon those.
Some of you stated we should do nothing...correct me if I am wrong? And one of you stated that these atrocities always look worse when we view them at a microcosmic level (rather than macro level). Am I correct so far?
Here is my point, and it will be made in reference to Calmheart's specific focus, that of women being violated. These violations and horrific act that are committed against women is due to, some would call it attitude, to wards women, others might refer to it as, consciousness. We would not have so many acts of violence against women on a global level, if it weren't for a "consciousness" that directs those types of behaviors. We need to change our thoughts/consciousness, because this is exactly where, on a quantum level, the problems arise from.
Change the consciousness that is currently manifesting into violence against women, and we will see these events change. We therefore need spiritual teachers to step in and lead our world into an understanding of what these attitudes or type of consciousness is doing to our women and therefore to our world.
On another note: What I referred to above was obviously in regards to changing things in our world on a quantum level, however, I have to admit that I would be hard pressed to do "nothing" if my daughter, sister, mother, or wife was being violated next to me (microcosm) with a bayonet stuck in her vagina. I am sorry, but I can't help thinking it is easy to say "all is well" and "I don't do those things to women", when we are not directly involved. Doing nothing is also a fertile ground for evil to wreck havoc.
Thanks for listening to my "two cents",
Peace always,
Kappa
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Post by cheart222 on Feb 1, 2009 21:44:32 GMT -5
I appreciate the contributions to this disscussion and the heart of your good intention are acknowledged ,the light of your spirit is also felt and so it is with the energy we are sending forth and the belief that a change will come to those in sufferage.we who are properly disposed are offering ourselves willingly and while we attract peace in our own space it radiates out ward so that together we make up that unified field please never believe that our praireful reflective thoughts do not have real power in the universe .... they will reach their destination, and a change will come!....the ancestor of every action is thought.so while the action is the tangible believable testimony of the physical movement.thought is the spiritual catalyst that gave it life.
calmheart222
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Post by Peter on Feb 2, 2009 4:53:10 GMT -5
However, to just sit back and say, “everything is as it should be” and leave it at that as if all is therefore well and we should just let it be, is something entirely different. This is exactly what we need to do nothing! the problem is when we interfere and try to make things better that we foul up.What you posted above is exactly what needs to be done. If you want the world to change then you do nothing. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (often attributed to Edmund Burke) I was painting my fence in the street the other day when a drunken yob started abusing an asian bloke who was walking the other way. Should I have done nothing there? Should I have allowed the yob to continue his racist thuggary? P |
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Post by dwbh1953 on Feb 2, 2009 10:56:01 GMT -5
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I was painting my fence in the street the other day when a drunken yob started abusing an asian bloke who was walking the other way. Should I have done nothing there? Should I have allowed the yob to continue his racist thuggary?
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Depends on how big the guys was, afterall you only had a paint brush lol
Randji
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