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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 11:49:46 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 11:49:46 GMT -5
Oi! Dont drag me into this here, Im trying to limit my nonsense to one thread at a time at the moment hehe Hehe. Maybe it's like a virus and I need to wash my hands before going to another thread. I'll try that. ;D why wash the hands?...is there someplace for the virus to settle?
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 13:38:57 GMT -5
Post by therealfake on Sept 6, 2011 13:38:57 GMT -5
Hehe. Maybe it's like a virus and I need to wash my hands before going to another thread. I'll try that. ;D why wash the hands?...is there someplace for the virus to settle? It's not the hands that need washing. There's a beautiful lesson going on here in the absence of any teacher. It's about the difference between the heart and the mind. One sees their brother, the other see's it's creepy, virusy, separate self, hidden away in humor and sarcasm. One is the light, while the other hides in the darkness. Heaven and Hell Who needs a teacher when there's Life? Peace
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 15:01:47 GMT -5
Post by andrew on Sept 6, 2011 15:01:47 GMT -5
Oi! Dont drag me into this here, Im trying to limit my nonsense to one thread at a time at the moment hehe Hehe. Maybe it's like a virus and I need to wash my hands before going to another thread. I'll try that. ;D Hahaha that analogy strangely resonates with me! My advice would be....get some strong soap!
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 15:02:49 GMT -5
Post by andrew on Sept 6, 2011 15:02:49 GMT -5
why wash the hands?...is there someplace for the virus to settle? It's not the hands that need washing. There's a beautiful lesson going on here in the absence of any teacher. It's about the difference between the heart and the mind. One sees their brother, the other see's it's creepy, virusy, separate self, hidden away in humor and sarcasm. One is the light, while the other hides in the darkness. Heaven and Hell Who needs a teacher when there's Life? Peace I think he was talking about my nonsense, not this thread itself.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 15:25:33 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 15:25:33 GMT -5
why wash the hands?...is there someplace for the virus to settle? It's not the hands that need washing. There's a beautiful lesson going on here in the absence of any teacher. It's about the difference between the heart and the mind. One sees their brother, the other see's it's creepy, virusy, separate self, hidden away in humor and sarcasm. One is the light, while the other hides in the darkness. Heaven and Hell Who needs a teacher when there's Life? Peace another pure of heart, blessings and love brother andrew and enigma and others....if you want to know acewall look openly and with love from the heart, and not suspicion and prejudgment from the head...see which feels better, more right.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 18:03:26 GMT -5
Post by enigma on Sept 6, 2011 18:03:26 GMT -5
why wash the hands?...is there someplace for the virus to settle? It's not the hands that need washing. There's a beautiful lesson going on here in the absence of any teacher. It's about the difference between the heart and the mind. One sees their brother, the other see's it's creepy, virusy, separate self, hidden away in humor and sarcasm. One is the light, while the other hides in the darkness. Heaven and Hell Who needs a teacher when there's Life? Peace He ain't creepy, he's my brother. Actually, my brother is very often creepy and virusy. It's okay. Take my brother Andrew....please! As horribly wrong as Anderew is at times, he's never actually wrong, which is a paradoxical contradiction. Notice how there isn't a malevolent bone in brother Andrew's body..... Notice that he is YOUR teacher.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 18:13:26 GMT -5
Post by enigma on Sept 6, 2011 18:13:26 GMT -5
It's not the hands that need washing. There's a beautiful lesson going on here in the absence of any teacher. It's about the difference between the heart and the mind. One sees their brother, the other see's it's creepy, virusy, separate self, hidden away in humor and sarcasm. One is the light, while the other hides in the darkness. Heaven and Hell Who needs a teacher when there's Life? Peace another pure of heart, blessings and love brother andrew and enigma and others....if you want to know acewall look withopenly and with love from the heart, and not suspicion from the head...see which feels better, more right. The truth always feels better, more right, and all i'm hearing that sounds like that is one hand clapping. It's a paradox!
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 19:14:57 GMT -5
Post by ivory on Sept 6, 2011 19:14:57 GMT -5
If you hear the sound of one hand clapping, I'll take whatever drugs you are on
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 19:34:03 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 19:34:03 GMT -5
But surely someone as evolved as advanced in their understanding as you must have realized that this world is really just illusery thought forms and that we choose the thought forms we want to choose, that we each define our our truth....and surely someone who has had the penny drop as you have cannot be effected positively or negatively by any experience...not as effortless as you are right?...so if truth is subjective...and I'm pretty sure I can find a quote where you've said something similar...then why not look with your heart instead of your intellect....you know how to do that right?...get a strong feeling of love in your chest then feel acewalls posts like you would feel what a loved one was saying...or you could just rearrange your sock draw....but it does beg the question...why is someone so effortless as you afraid to try something new, and yet so ready to label things he doesn't even try to understand....doesn't seem very enlightened...hard to see where a penny droping has made you any better or more open or more compassionate and less judgmental as a person....your penny dropping did seem to make you a more eloquent philosopher though LOL.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 19:37:54 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 19:37:54 GMT -5
I think a good indicator of someone who has some recognition of truth is when a person becomes more open...more tolerant...and less judgmental LOL...is yours and onehand's version of truth and judgment making you more open tolerant and less judgmental in this situation?...or is it giving you a ready made feeling to push away something you don't understand to support what fits your needs?
Are you a fully realized open minded tolerant being...or are you an eloquent philosopher who rejects all experiences or ideas they may challenge his illusion of spiritual and inellectual superiority?
As an aside your not even that eloquent if a philosopher...your eloquent response to anything I've have said contrary to you has been reduced to he's just not sane or is unteachable or just plain smells bad LOL...even when I challenged you and said you were not enlightened you became very agitated in your effortless way and lost your ability to make rational responses and eloquent philosophical debate LOL...I said the same thing to zendancer...I challenged him in exactly the same way...do you see him getting all judgmental and at a loss for words...nope...Becuase while he may be married to the Zen paradigm of enlightenment and either dismisses the old vedic paradigm of the complete surrender of ones self into god conciousness or just doesn't think its real he is in fact a fully realized human being in most ways....you on the other hand are a philosopher who has had almost no lasting or enduring spiritual experience...no one who is as intolerant, judgmental, inflexable, and attached to their version of truth as you has.
Here is a smell test...I have said that a gentle man who has many many years on you in all likelyhood is a budha, he is a man who has spent decades in some of the ashrams of some of the most impactful and graceful dgmharma saints of the last half century...a man who gently reminds you in the middle of every philosophical debate "who is watching" instead of engaging in the debate....a man who has remained above the fray and gently reminded you over and over exactly the same way ramana maharshi has said as the central part of his teachings: Who is watching?....I have said this man is a pure hearted realized being who has openly surrendered himself into conciousness....and you have said he is creepy....
Where does the smell test take you on that one LOL.
Do you think every gentle kind tolerant old man is creepy?
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 20:18:53 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 20:18:53 GMT -5
Acewall...how many years has your body been manifesting on earth in this lifetime?
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 20:21:55 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 20:21:55 GMT -5
I bet acewall was living in Sri Aurobindo's ashram in India before you had even grown your first chest hair enigma and one handclapping LOL.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 20:37:27 GMT -5
Post by charliegee on Sept 6, 2011 20:37:27 GMT -5
what is the sound of one chest hair flapping?
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 20:44:18 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Sept 6, 2011 20:44:18 GMT -5
LOL.
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Acewall
Sept 6, 2011 21:22:48 GMT -5
Post by enigma on Sept 6, 2011 21:22:48 GMT -5
If you hear the sound of one hand clapping, I'll take whatever drugs you are on Shorry, that's my secret. It's the only thing that makes me special. Hehe.
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