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Post by reba on Jan 20, 2011 18:29:36 GMT -5
Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev teaches www.InnerEngineering.com, a powerful program for self-transformation. He also is a humanitarian - this past year he was awarded the highest humanitarian award in India for Project Green Hands, a truly "grass-roots" effort to reforest southern India, bringing millions of volunteers together to help save this part of our planet from becoming a desert. He will be on a free, live webstream event with Champion Race Car driver Christian Rado on January 30th. To learn more, click here: myconversationswiththemystic.com/chrisrado/ |
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Post by icgebsam on Mar 26, 2011 7:04:57 GMT -5
The method that is taught is distilled from Yogic practices and teachings that has been there for thousands of years. Of course, it works (with varying degrees of results) whether you do the Kriya (Shambhavi Mahamudra) with or without involvement. My understanding is that there is nothing beyond it in Isha for a true "self" seeker. This also is one of the detours from the direct path of self inquiry: self-seeking-self, awareness-watching-awareness (discovered by Richard Rose from Ramana Maharishi's teaching).
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 26, 2011 10:36:16 GMT -5
Maybe so but if you do a little research many many people came to Ramana when he was alive.
For most of them if they asked how can I realize God he would give them different techniques of meditation it was only for a very few he gave self-inquiry. Times have not changed that much since.
This again is the problem of just knowing with the intellect how the different paths line up.
Michael
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Post by icgebsam on Mar 26, 2011 10:59:15 GMT -5
Yes, you are correct. Ramana seem to have suggested different ways of self realisation depending on who and at what state of understanding they were at. Without intellect (due to years of accumulations and conditioning) it may not make any sense to a man who struggles to make a living to ask who I am? This is my current level of understanding. For example, what would be the best way to teach the self-inquiry process to an Indian villager who just barely makes a living? I also read that Ramana's highest form of teaching, to some visitors, was in silence.
Sorry Michael, I did not completely get what you meant in your last sentence. Could you please do little more detailing. Thanks.
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 26, 2011 12:04:04 GMT -5
Yes, you are correct. Ramana seem to have suggested different ways of self realisation depending on who and at what state of understanding they were at. Without intellect (due to years of accumulations and conditioning) it may not make any sense to a man who struggles to make a living to ask who I am? This is my current level of understanding. For example, what would be the best way to teach the self-inquiry process to an Indian villager who just barely makes a living? I also read that Ramana's highest form of teaching, to some visitors, was in silence. Sorry Michael, I did not completely get what you meant in your last sentence. Could you please do little more detailing. Thanks. Hi Icgebsam No worries all that I mean was and not directed to you at all is in this neo-advaita camp there is always us and them going on at some level. We have the highest and direct method and so on. It's all messed up IMO. What happens is so many folks get the concepts used in pointing in non duality circles and once they get the concept they think they are awaken. Concepts are a 2 edge sword cuts both ways. They help a lot because they give you a place to point to but they also mislead a lot because until the time all concepts are given up you will not awaken. I can be bold and frank and some here for sure have issues the way I post but I will say that most of the crowd today saying I got it now have never went any deeper than the concepts. Self inquiry is hard and impossible almost with someone with just average intelligence. Ramana seldom gave away self-iquiry it's only for a few and I feel it's the same today. I do not think any more folks are waking up because of Tolle or whoever. What they are doing possibility is living a better life because they are using concepts in the day to day living which actually helps a lot. IOW when anyone lives by the concept that suffering is from the mind and when you are in the present moment there is no suffering then this can help immensely. I personally feel the best gift that non duality has given to the masses is the possibility of the end of mental suffering. You do not need to be awaken to use this concept and it does help a lot if you are suffering. I was a student under one teacher years ago. If I would say something like I meditated today and felt I was one with everything he would get mad. Saying what in the hell does that mean one with everything it's just a concept you must go much much deeper and drop the mind. No more intellectual answers so I got it. ZD posted something good once he said to the effect as long as a person is enjoying life and is at peace why should I want to interfere with that and it was hard for me to get what he said for sometime but it's really a great point he made. Many folks now in this nondual circus IMO tend to be like fundamental Christians or something. It's my way to the highest and your way does not measure up to mine. Now they will not say it like that but that's the vibe that comes. Anyhow I wrote far more than I wanted. Happy to have you here on the forum. I am always learning here and I also get myself in hot water fast hehe Much love Michael |
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Post by deepakgod on Jul 16, 2015 13:26:31 GMT -5
I was at the Isha Yoga several years ago and did the Shambhavi Mahamudra, What made me uncomfortable and question myself was the initiation after the program given by Sadhguru on video then a "guru pooja" done by the teachers. There is also the dhynalinga temple with the linga of Shiva, chanting of mantras and different other deities, selling malas and other stuff despite Sadhguru's insistence that his teachings are non-religious. There is Hinduism everywhere and Sathguru himself chants and dances to Shiva.
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Post by sharon on Sept 23, 2023 10:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by Reefs on Mar 30, 2024 22:10:05 GMT -5
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Post by Reefs on Apr 7, 2024 12:19:56 GMT -5
A different perspective on Sadhguru... (turn on closed captions!)
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