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Post by michaelsees on Nov 30, 2010 19:59:54 GMT -5
Who is he was before my time here I guess"
Michael
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Post by enigma on Nov 30, 2010 20:15:01 GMT -5
Personally, I would prefer not having the whole karma point thingy. It's a distraction (though good for jokes). However, I didn't set up the site, and I don't know anything about checking IP addresses or separating fake identities from real ones. I'll leave that sort of thing up to Shawn. Yes, the karma point thingy does not "serve a purpose" (though i personally feel like I've had some fun with it) and to use it to beat people over the head with is certainly a distraction. I also don't know why it matters how many accounts people have, or why they would have them, all of which also falls under the category of distraction, but I do see the function of the accusations.
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Post by unveilable on Nov 30, 2010 20:24:34 GMT -5
Well I'm hesitant to even go there for fear he might come back. I never had any direct dealings but I remember him as being feisty. Who is he was before my time here I guess" Michael
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Post by klaus on Nov 30, 2010 20:32:10 GMT -5
Who cares!
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Post by monkkey on Nov 30, 2010 21:25:17 GMT -5
the evidence indicates that cabin in the forest is likely a bored young inciter, or perhaps just a troll masquerading as such. too bad good people of this board even deal with him, or he might go out and accidentally wake up. makes me wonder. ok, i'm done. however, since the young lad is paranoid of monkeys, my heart goes out to him. he hasn't even begun to stir in his dream of being human, much less be aware of the monkey that rules over his mind. aaah, the beauty of 13.7 billion years. what love it takes to make a universe that gives rise to a perception so paranoid of its own being that it can have the gumption to find its own truth in so many different ways. masterful really. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7TKW_QQbA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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Post by monkkey on Dec 1, 2010 3:58:26 GMT -5
now is not sharing your deepest beliefs better than worrying and speculating about aliases, and judging and/or impossibly trying to disprove something that simply can not be done on a message board?
now, for the moment of the truth with which you are delightfully enamoured. my name is charles, and i enjoy all forms of actual thinking much more than dramatic distractions. is that not what this board is meant for? i do not believe in things as absolutes, but do play with probabilities, which are all secondary to direct experience. so yes, i appreciate your recent discussion as much i disagree with parts of it, but these things are just a part of the show.
the discussion gets more truly enlivened by pointing to what is happening outside of the theatre of consensual reality. when what you have always thought, modified, and maintained to be true starts to break down and collapse under the weight of all that one has carried around for so long, it gets really interesting. i do see how art, contemplation, religion, hiking, science, philosophy, carpentry, dance, music, back massages and anything else can eventually lead toward a greater sense of exploration and seeing into the reality of what one is not. there must usually be that intention though, so the fool who persists in his/her folly can indeed grow wise. is that not cool?
i came to this board to read different characters' descriptions and pointers of how they recognize(d) themselves as the one both watching the show and/or participating in it. that is the interesting stuff for this character. nothing more, nothing less.
i do not know you at all, nor do i care really what happens to you. it is out of my hands anyway. i have no worldly desire at all to argue, and only to point back to the focus of what i think is the board's intent. so how about we just drop the whole thing about aliases, dramas, and other bs, and get back to that?
good night, sir.
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 6:41:57 GMT -5
Cabin, I only post here using the "Peter" account.
Enigma can vouch for Lexi, I've no idea about FrankShank and Monkkey. Although personally I find the tone of their posts to be quite different.
I do have IT skills which extend to finding publicly available WHOIS information, but not as far as masking or spoofing my IP address. Whether or not I have multiple computers at home is a moot point because of course they all go through the same router, so they would all look the same by the time they hit this site.
Rather than stirring, what I've been trying to do with my posts (all of which appear as "Peter" and as no other user) is help you see that you're getting yourself stuck in a restrictive line of thought. You've put yourself into a "them and us" situation. I'm not too sure where best to go with this thread now, I'll re-read your private message and see if I can come up with something useful to you.
P
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 7:15:57 GMT -5
Ok, here's me replying on the public forum as per your request. I do not have anything against you or your beliefs, Cabin, although I do disagree with your positions on Homosexuality and Captial Punishment. Seriously, if you just allowed yourself to question yourself here, you might "See" what's at play. Also though, as I read it, you're in some danger of a complete freak-out, which is why I've been asking you to look at why any of these games (if they are just games - even games can teach) are bothering you. Michael is quite correct that I used a 2nd account to counter his "Smite" the other day. I set up the "Nemo" account in Dec 2008 to counter a "smite fest" that occurred and put me to -7. I don't exalt myself, I just block attacks. I notice that Michael's account also managed to recover from the -1 I had him at yesterday The Nemo account you'll see has 1 post, which occured when I forgot to log it out one day. Aside from that 1 post in that 1 account, I have never posted anything on this forum under any other user account. If another member of this forum is telling you that I'm behind one or more other postings then obviously either they or I are lying (or they're expressing a mistaken opinion). It's one of those life learing lessons that you now find yourself in a position to choose, Cabin. Or you could walk away, preserve your sanity. Safer option, but then you won't learn anything. Thank you for prompting me on this - a learning for me too.
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 8:01:33 GMT -5
From a private message from Cabin: Oh he told you that did he? Michael - what are you playing at? Are you being helpful? I've already told you that I don't know any of the other posters In Real Life. My wife does not post on this board. She's quite "anti" chat rooms/facebook/etc. Today, I'm thinking that she has a point I'm flattered that I'm being taken for an expert here. I'm a programmer by trade, but it's all just financial and utility stuff. Numbers here, files there. All quite same-ol-same-ol, but it pays the bills. Why did Swami say that stuff....well if you read through the thread there you'll see that I did question myself on my contribution to his dramatic departure. Unfortunately the other participants - Sophia and Lightmystic have also now departed. He arrived on this board saying he was "realized" and suggesting that we all must read something he'd published in PDF that was really badly written and didn't make a whole lot of sense. So he got feedback that he didn't appreciate and it all went into a death spiral from there. He took offence and after that everything that went wrong with his computer became my fault. Really. I don't send people viruses by email, and I can't hack Yahoo accounts. I assume. I've never tried. If the last time I stirred up trouble was with SwamiCollins in 2008 and the next time is with Cabin in late 2010 then I'm not much of a trouble maker now, am I? Again Cabin, your thinking is getting stuck in a rut. Have you considered that all these posters might be totally independent, just reacting to your suggestion that they "should" behave in a different way, and reacting to all the energy you're throwing out here? Winding you up because you're so obviously already wound up? If you wish to continue with this....line of thought....then check my posting times - you'll never find anything before 6am or after 10pm GMT. I have two small kids and need all the sleep I can get. Assuming FrankShank is in the US (yes Frank?) he should have some posts in the middle of the UK night.
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 8:04:36 GMT -5
From a PM by Cabin:
I thought you weren't going to PM me anymore because you don't trust me?
Well you might be letting it go, but I've now been accused of something which I'm annoyed about and I'd quite like to clear it up.
Michael - why did you tell Cabin that I'm FrankShank? What makes you believe that to be the case?
Cheers, Peter
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Post by frankshank on Dec 1, 2010 8:30:14 GMT -5
OK ENOUGH of this stupidity! Cabin, I am not Peter! Michael is telling you I am Peter based on what proof? I am based in the UK so the times I post may be similar to Peter's but that's it. Michael probably thinks that because Peter questionned him and I had a few digs we are one in the same - totally WRONG! 'Michael' likes his drugs. Drug users tend to have issues with paranoia. Forget all this and move on!
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 8:36:58 GMT -5
peter everytime you log out, frankshank logs in. Big coincidence. I haven't logged out all day. I tick the "stay logged in" box. FrankShank is in the UK eh? Hmm, that scuppers that proof. Of course, the burden of proof should lay on the person making the accusations, so I look forward to hearing that. P
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 9:00:32 GMT -5
In the message to me monkkey said to me "peter owns the fake account called frankshank it has been confirmed by another user" when i messaged him back he told me it had been confirmed by the user called michaelsees in a private message to him. Ahh, OK, I see what is happening here. And that's fine, monkeys like to play - it's their nature. You however Cabin, need to be a little more discerning and clear in your communication if you want to avoid confusion and discord. When you say "i know u are frankshank, michealsees told me. " then I'm obviously going to think that Michael made that accusation and that sets me off (and, I see, sets off FrankShank. Well played Monkkey). If it's in fact the case that Monkkey told you Michael told him...well now, that's a different thing. You're also forgetting that Enigma vouched for Lexi which puts him/her in the clear. Lexi joined quite recently, and Robert has been with us for some time. Unless you doubt Enigma too? If the person who IS hitting this thread with a sock puppet account would like to put their hands (socks) up and prove their identity(s) to Cabin's satisfaction, then I'll split that 20 quid with you 50/50.
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2010 9:33:44 GMT -5
Cabin, your thinking is both linear and stuck. Stuck in a rut perhaps. not sure what her problem was Could you consider that she doesn't have a "problem"? Could you consider that she's fine just the way she is, and that she's got a valid point of view which is entirely justified? the fake user is monkkey. they came here to stir things up and they have done a good job Well I certainly agree they've done a good job of stiring things up, but you can only stir when there is a pot on the boil and someone hands you the spoon. But again your thinking is restricted. There is nothing to suggest that the Monkkey account is "fake". It's new for sure, but that doesn't mean it must be an established poster posting with a 2nd account.
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Post by zendancer on Dec 1, 2010 12:11:11 GMT -5
Maybe we should re-title this thread "Non-discussion Thread"?
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