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Post by tenka on Apr 29, 2023 14:01:34 GMT -5
Why would you have more confidence in one experience over another? That doesn't reflect that all experiences are distorted to some degree . What makes one experience more distorted than another . You would have to have a foundational belief in effect otherwise you wouldn't be able to discern one degree of distortion over another . Do you understand that your foundation has to reflect what you believe . If you can't believe in your foundation then what you believe is more correct can't be based upon that . Peeps don't seem to understand how their foundation reflects everything . Distorted with regards to what? Your guess is as good as mine . I am only following inavalan's lead in regards to distortion .
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Post by tenka on Apr 29, 2023 14:06:03 GMT -5
Well it does lead somewhere, it's just that you are not interested in looking at how foundations work . The very same foundations that are at the root of what you believe and what you don't . If you understood this, then you wouldn't be saying what you are saying, but that's up to you . It's easy to point the finger at someone and say they are wrong, but a little harder to look at oneself in reflection of what is countered . My position is that what we discuss here can't be argued. You present your view, I present mine. We may ask and answer honest questions, understand or not the other's view, and that's about it. My view, and probably yours too, isn't based on a rationalization of some data, but on my inner experiences. Hence, no external argument can change it. Discussions may trigger questions in my mind that I then ask my inner source of knowledge and guidance. Those aren't even questions you might ask, but questions that arise from my same inner-source. You tried to have an argument, prove me wrong, make me reflect on what you say. I'm not available for such a conversation. Not interested. " How foundations work"? To me that question makes no sense, and I am not even interested what you mean by that at this stage of our exchange. I am beyond that. (I don't intend to offend you. I'm neutral). Surely I believe you're mistaken, but I have no intention to argue your view, nor my view. Truth can't be argued, can't be voted, can't be learned form another (in my opinion). This is what I meant by " This leads nowhere. Thanks for the chat. " Butt you have said that experiences are not true or real or whatever word suits . This is why I have questioned your foundational belief system . You measure what is a correct opinion to various degrees although one's experiences can't be trusted for use of a better word . Your belief system is based upon what you initially believe to be true based upon experience, to then dismiss it somewhat . This is why I have spoken about you not understanding your foundation . You don't understand, nor are you interesting in exploring this aspect .¨ It seems to be common enough to be said that peeps with premises don't understand the foundation that facilitates it .
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Post by inavalan on Apr 29, 2023 14:10:13 GMT -5
My position is that what we discuss here can't be argued. You present your view, I present mine. We may ask and answer honest questions, understand or not the other's view, and that's about it. My view, and probably yours too, isn't based on a rationalization of some data, but on my inner experiences. Hence, no external argument can change it. Discussions may trigger questions in my mind that I then ask my inner source of knowledge and guidance. Those aren't even questions you might ask, but questions that arise from my same inner-source. You tried to have an argument, prove me wrong, make me reflect on what you say. I'm not available for such a conversation. Not interested. " How foundations work"? To me that question makes no sense, and I am not even interested what you mean by that at this stage of our exchange. I am beyond that. (I don't intend to offend you. I'm neutral). Surely I believe you're mistaken, but I have no intention to argue your view, nor my view. Truth can't be argued, can't be voted, can't be learned form another (in my opinion). This is what I meant by " This leads nowhere. Thanks for the chat. " Butt you have said that experiences are not true or real or whatever word suits . This is why I have questioned your foundational belief system . You measure what is a correct opinion to various degrees although one's experiences can't be trusted for use of a better word . Your belief system is based upon what you initially believe to be true based upon experience, to then dismiss it somewhat . This is why I have spoken about you not understanding your foundation . You don't understand, nor are you interesting in exploring this aspect .¨ I seems to be common enough to be said that peeps with premises don't understand the foundation that facilitates it . You don't know what you're talking about. Let it go!
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Post by tenka on Apr 30, 2023 5:56:35 GMT -5
Butt you have said that experiences are not true or real or whatever word suits . This is why I have questioned your foundational belief system . You measure what is a correct opinion to various degrees although one's experiences can't be trusted for use of a better word . Your belief system is based upon what you initially believe to be true based upon experience, to then dismiss it somewhat . This is why I have spoken about you not understanding your foundation . You don't understand, nor are you interesting in exploring this aspect .¨ I seems to be common enough to be said that peeps with premises don't understand the foundation that facilitates it . You don't know what you're talking about. Let it go! What is it that you think I don't know what I am talking about? I have simply asked you a few questions and explained what I mean regarding how foundations work . You say that it doesn't make sense and you are not interested .. That's fine, but then you speak about I don't know what I am talking about . That makes no sense to me .. You keep saying for me to let go of something, as if I am losing sleep over your deflections . I have experienced this many times when simple questions are asked about someone's premises . It can go pear shaped rather quickly, like I have experienced with you . It's kinda revealing how someone behaves when asked something that challenges their beliefs . I have asked you a straightforward question above, you are welcome to respond, but it's fine if you don't .. Hows that for letting it go?
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Post by someNOTHING! on Aug 15, 2023 12:44:58 GMT -5
Glad it rezzed, mate. Perhaps you see it as the contour of every authentic apology.“Let go, or be dragged.” Zen Proverb wow I liked that again, it even triggered a little sadness. Darn, now I have to look at who I owe an apology to lol...there's always someone! No need. Just Know Thy 'self', and it is given.
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Post by someNOTHING! on Aug 15, 2023 12:46:35 GMT -5
I've ALWAYS respected your diligence and how quickly you've mastered a second (possibly third or fourth) language. I have always suspected there was an interesting connection between the adaptiveness to diversity in languages/situations and why our lovely brothers and sisters from the sub-continent were always (stereotypically, I know) so good at learning coding languages and in the medical field. I'd be curious if you've ever thought of such things. But, if not, no worries. I don't know what you meant by the word 'coding language'. Java, C++, Ruby, etc.
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Post by someNOTHING! on Aug 15, 2023 12:47:12 GMT -5
That's my ~spirit animal~. My first e-mail address, 25 years ago, was tortoise@mindspring. (turtle@mindspring was taken). That's still pretty-much me, a tortoise. I found a baby snapping turtle recently scooting down the hill near our bird feeder area (called 'Red bird Crossing') and thought of you. I'll post some pictures later. I picked ithim up and put it down by the river so s/he wouldn't ge eaten up by the crows or ridden over by the mountain bikers. S/he seemed quite content as we sat there for 30 minutes watching the river flow by. Came back later, and s/he had vanished into thin air or the river, or perhaps been eaten by a crow. I'll never know, and that's OK. It is what it is. Forthcoming.
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