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Post by stardustpilgrim on Dec 31, 2019 1:44:17 GMT -5
So Gopal, I have a question. If we are all born with original sin, does that mean only Adam amd Eve were created in God's image? Nobody else ever?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 4:06:13 GMT -5
So Gopal, I have a question. If we are all born with original sin, does that mean only Adam amd Eve were created in God's image? Nobody else ever? You are in the God's image even while you are in sin, Bible doesn't say other way around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 4:08:13 GMT -5
I am pretty sure you had that thought while you were writing it because you wrote "Paul was a learned man, he knew the OT scriptures well. The book of Hebrews is a very important NT book" Paul might have written Hebrews but no evidence found. No, I've known for years nobody knows who wrote Hebrews. Okay.
I don't remember .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 4:10:37 GMT -5
Where did I deny reincarnation? Where did I even speak about reincarnation? Did I miss something? I was just giving an example. You said you read what's there. But this can't be done always with the Bible. Real information cannot be conveyed by words. Another example comes to mind. Once Jesus said, To be my follower you must eat my flesh and drink my blood. And scripture says many left him and ceased to follow him (because of what he said). But we can never correlate our teaching of 'Consciousness' or 'Self' with Bible. Bible is written entirely based on a mysterious person God The Father, Yahweh!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 6:08:13 GMT -5
I was just giving an example. You said you read what's there. But this can't be done always with the Bible. Real information cannot be conveyed by words. Another example comes to mind. Once Jesus said, To be my follower you must eat my flesh and drink my blood. And scripture says many left him and ceased to follow him (because of what he said). But we can never correlate our teaching of 'Consciousness' or 'Self' with Bible. Bible is written entirely based on a mysterious person God The Father, Yahweh! Bless you Gopal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 7:39:02 GMT -5
Estimates suggest that there was only 300 million humans. One could probably hear a tree breathing in such quietude. one way that I've heard it put is that a typical English land worker from the middle ages likely would have never traveled more than 20 miles from home and it would have taken his or her entire lifetime to be exposed to the amount of information in one Wednesday issue of the New York Times. Yeah, that's a good image.
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Post by laughter on Dec 31, 2019 19:19:21 GMT -5
one way that I've heard it put is that a typical English land worker from the middle ages likely would have never traveled more than 20 miles from home and it would have taken his or her entire lifetime to be exposed to the amount of information in one Wednesday issue of the New York Times. Yeah, that's a good image. Now, of course, wind back the clock 20,000 years and it's a different story.
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Post by laughter on Dec 31, 2019 19:40:42 GMT -5
one way that I've heard it put is that a typical English land worker from the middle ages likely would have never traveled more than 20 miles from home and it would have taken his or her entire lifetime to be exposed to the amount of information in one Wednesday issue of the New York Times. and that they were never exposed to a Bret Stephens opinion piece is a good thingy And it wasn't even a New Years Eve party after 1am when people start saying what they really think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 6:13:53 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a good image. Now, of course, wind back the clock 20,000 years and it's a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 11:25:33 GMT -5
But we can never correlate our teaching of 'Consciousness' or 'Self' with Bible. Bible is written entirely based on a mysterious person God The Father, Yahweh! Bless you Gopal. Thank you.
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Post by Reefs on Jan 9, 2020 7:39:25 GMT -5
And if you leave all beliefs aside, then what? What will be your answer? I don't believe in parallel universe albeit I am cognizant of my abode while I am in office. So My answer is 'Tree doesn't exist'. Does your daughter exist when you are in your office and are thinking about her?
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Post by Reefs on Jan 9, 2020 23:06:48 GMT -5
Does your daughter exist when you are in your office and are thinking about her? Not only when I am in office, even while I am infront of her, I am not sure whether she exist because I have no way to know her existence. Yes, I am thinking about her sometimes because there is a deep down assumption in me that says to me that she is real.
Right. On the one hand, you know (intellectually) that you cannot know if she is real; but on the other hand, on a visceral level ("deep down"), you can't help but treat her as if she is real. That's a textbook case of a split mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 23:15:23 GMT -5
Not only when I am in office, even while I am infront of her, I am not sure whether she exist because I have no way to know her existence. Yes, I am thinking about her sometimes because there is a deep down assumption in me that says to me that she is real.
Right. On the one hand, you know (intellectually) that you cannot know if she is real; but on the other hand, on a visceral level ("deep down"), you can't help but treat her as if she is real. That's a textbook case of a split mind. It's not the caliber of astute. it's a steady kenning, it never turned out to be erroneous. she is real is a kind of posit(assumption).
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Post by enigma on Jan 9, 2020 23:24:20 GMT -5
Right. On the one hand, you know (intellectually) that you cannot know if she is real; but on the other hand, on a visceral level ("deep down"), you can't help but treat her as if she is real. That's a textbook case of a split mind. It's not the caliber of astute. it's a steady kenning, it never turned out to be erroneous. she is real is a kind of posit(assumption). That Tamil/English dictionary of yours getting a workout?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 23:25:45 GMT -5
It's not the caliber of astute. it's a steady kenning, it never turned out to be erroneous. she is real is a kind of posit(assumption). That Tamil/English dictionary of yours getting a workout? Why?
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