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Post by laughter on Jan 28, 2020 6:56:29 GMT -5
the irony of feeling insulted by being called a people-peep is as thick as it can ever get. Well, every time Laffy starts reaching for doofus guy ("heh heh"), I tell myself: Beware! There may be more to this than meets the eye! (** muttley snicker **)
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Post by laughter on Jan 28, 2020 6:58:17 GMT -5
Oh, I get the humor in it, and I'm sure that if anyone at the church ever wanted me to really open up about my path or what I really think of Catholicism generally that there are many of them who would call me a phony. Ramakrishna, after SR, felt the strong desire to experience ALL aspects of God, not just the Hindu versions. So for a while, he suddenly started hanging around with Muslims and lived like a Muslim. After he realized their version of God, he moved on to Christianity and fully immersed himself into that aspect of God. I don't remember how many religions he adopted that way, but judging by the talks he has given and that have been preserved, he got a rather well rounded view not only on most major religions, but also on non-duality. That's why he kept stressing this point about God with form and God without form. Interesting. There's definitely a difference between theory and practice. Closest Zendo is 40 miles ...
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Post by laughter on Jan 28, 2020 7:01:26 GMT -5
Sure, but folks perceptions are interesting in the way they can distort to the extreme of conflict-seeking, which they might even deny as it's happening. Which is, of course, the other side of the coin of being easily offended. There is the opinion that suggests that being outraged is a relatively recent development in evolutionary terms. And goes some way to explain the exploration of it being perpetuated by the internet. Seems to me that the internet in this case is both mask and unmasking at the same time, which is, yes, accelerating the process of evolution along these lines. In terms of philosophy, it's what might be viewed as an early turn in the transition of that process from biological-only to a different media, one in which it was bound to accelerate.
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Post by laughter on Jan 28, 2020 7:03:46 GMT -5
Sure, but folks perceptions are interesting in the way they can distort to the extreme of conflict-seeking, which they might even deny as it's happening. Which is, of course, the other side of the coin of being easily offended. Yes, and judging by the screenshot Farmer posted, Satch seemed to have been rather conscious of this, Figgles not at all. And while it ended the same way for both, their version of the story is significantly different for exactly that reason. Satch is doing some emotional work over time here on these forums. ( which now that I think about it, I can relate to directly ) Gopal always had the bottom line on that as it was happening. That defines the limits of his self-honesty in this regard.
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Post by Reefs on Jan 28, 2020 7:09:26 GMT -5
Translation: Don't look here, look over there! (** throws copy of "The Power of Now" at rastaphant **) Well, every time Laffy starts reaching for doofus guy ("heh heh"), I tell myself: Beware! There may be more to this than meets the eye! (** muttley snicker **)Ah, right. I forgot the rastaphant and the snickering muttley. You've got quite an innovative collection of rhetorical devices.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 7:10:06 GMT -5
Oh, I get the humor in it, and I'm sure that if anyone at the church ever wanted me to really open up about my path or what I really think of Catholicism generally that there are many of them who would call me a phony. Ramakrishna, after SR, felt the strong desire to experience ALL aspects of God, not just the Hindu versions. So for a while, he suddenly started hanging around with Muslims and lived like a Muslim. After he realized their version of God, he moved on to Christianity and fully immersed himself into that aspect of God. I don't remember how many religions he adopted that way, but judging by the talks he has given and that have been preserved, he got a rather well rounded view not only on most major religions, but also on non-duality. That's why he kept stressing this point about God with form and God without form.
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Post by Reefs on Jan 28, 2020 7:22:32 GMT -5
Ramakrishna, after SR, felt the strong desire to experience ALL aspects of God, not just the Hindu versions. So for a while, he suddenly started hanging around with Muslims and lived like a Muslim. After he realized their version of God, he moved on to Christianity and fully immersed himself into that aspect of God. I don't remember how many religions he adopted that way, but judging by the talks he has given and that have been preserved, he got a rather well rounded view not only on most major religions, but also on non-duality. That's why he kept stressing this point about God with form and God without form. Interesting. There's definitely a difference between theory and practice. Closest Zendo is 40 miles ... As A-H keep saying, contrast is a good thing. Looking into these other traditions can help you realize some more finer points about SR, especially about the reality post-SR. It may also prevent you from falling back into some kind of dogma. And speaking of Zendo, I think I have to read Jan van de Wetering's books on Zen again - shocking and absolutely hilarious at the same time!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 7:23:53 GMT -5
There is the opinion that suggests that being outraged is a relatively recent development in evolutionary terms. And goes some way to explain the exploration of it being perpetuated by the internet. Seems to me that the internet in this case is both mask and unmasking at the same time, which is, yes, accelerating the process of evolution along these lines. In terms of philosophy, it's what might be viewed as an early turn in the transition of that process from biological-only to a different media, one in which it was bound to accelerate. Are you saying that when 'being outraged' could be experienced in the safety of a non-biological format it was bound to accelerate?
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Post by Reefs on Jan 28, 2020 7:29:55 GMT -5
Yes, and judging by the screenshot Farmer posted, Satch seemed to have been rather conscious of this, Figgles not at all. And while it ended the same way for both, their version of the story is significantly different for exactly that reason. Satch is doing some emotional work over time here on these forums. ( which now that I think about it, I can relate to directly ) Gopal always had the bottom line on that as it was happening. That defines the limits of his self-honesty in this regard. Yeah, I'm regularly surprised at the kind of emotional/psychological baggage peeps are still carrying around post-SR. But you are where you are. And from there you have to make the best of it. And as A-H like to say, relationships are forever. In that sense, I wish both Satch and Figgles all the best.
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Post by krsnaraja on Jan 28, 2020 9:28:31 GMT -5
Satch is doing some emotional work over time here on these forums. ( which now that I think about it, I can relate to directly ) Gopal always had the bottom line on that as it was happening. That defines the limits of his self-honesty in this regard. Yeah, I'm regularly surprised at the kind of emotional/psychological baggage peeps are still carrying around post-SR. But you are where you are. And from there you have to make the best of it. And as A-H like to say, relationships are forever. In that sense, I wish both Satch and Figgles all the best. Satchitananda's samadhi may have been permanent but I woke him up with the Gopal is Satchitananda yarn. When Satch saw I was back at SG diddling with Figgles made him want to stay. " I think you have the best of both worlds. Most Christians are very dogmatic and just follow a set of rules about how to live their lives, driven by the notion of sin and salvation. But it seems to me that you have Christianity plus Krishna consciousness which makes you a better Bhakti than most Christians. By the way I am not Gopal. 😀 And thank you for your kind words over at ST." Read more: spiritualgab.freeforums.net/thread/60/forum-stuff-observations-banned-member?page=55#ixzz6CKoiKUcL
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Post by andrew on Jan 28, 2020 9:33:38 GMT -5
Interesting that you mention evangelicals cuz that's the first hint I had that something other than religious nonsense might be going on. Though there's clearly a lot of fakery surrounding evangelical healings, it seems that the fakery was capitalizing on some genuine 'miraculous' healings, which begs the question, WTF? But again, a strong belief in the healing powers of almighty God, coupled with a willingness toward total surrender and the mind state altering effects of a good revival meetin may be all that's needed to produce a temporary 'level of being' conducive to radical changes in one's physical experience. You won't hear me talking about vibrations and vortex because all I see is Consciousness, nothing more, but the point remains. Don't know about speaking in tongues specifically, but maybe Seth, Abraham and Bashar can clarify. Yes, those miracles certainly mess with people's concepts of reality. Such occurrences make it rather obvious that our so-called physical 'laws' aren't actually laws but more like agreements. That doesn't mean, however, that anything goes as some might then conclude. There's always more to the story. It just tells you who's boss, hehe. ow I think the term 'speaking in tongues' specifically refers to instances where people suddenly go into a different state of mind and start transmitting messages in a foreign (often ancient) language that they have never actually learned, like Aramaic. In contrast, Seth, Abraham and Bashar all seem to have managed to come out in plain, contemporary American English. Thank God! A Course In Miracles is an example of a channeled book soaked in religious wordage. A bit heavy going, but beautiful, if there's one book I could perhaps find a slight remorse at having given away, it would be that one. It's the bible (or Jesus' teaching at least) as it 'should' have been. Of course, she is now in the political arena, and has taken some heavy flak for some of her spiritual views (particular ones that relate to LOA).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 10:12:46 GMT -5
Yes, those miracles certainly mess with people's concepts of reality. Such occurrences make it rather obvious that our so-called physical 'laws' aren't actually laws but more like agreements. That doesn't mean, however, that anything goes as some might then conclude. There's always more to the story. It just tells you who's boss, hehe. ow I think the term 'speaking in tongues' specifically refers to instances where people suddenly go into a different state of mind and start transmitting messages in a foreign (often ancient) language that they have never actually learned, like Aramaic. In contrast, Seth, Abraham and Bashar all seem to have managed to come out in plain, contemporary American English. Thank God! A Course In Miracles is an example of a channeled book soaked in religious wordage. A bit heavy going, but beautiful, if there's one book I could perhaps find a slight remorse at having given away, it would be that one. It's the bible (or Jesus' teaching at least) as it 'should' have been. Of course, she is now in the political arena, and has taken some heavy flak for some of her spiritual views (particular ones that relate to LOA). Who's the 'she' please?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 10:15:09 GMT -5
I was in a Pentecostal service where everyone started speaking in tongues except me. I've a twitch from it to this day. So traumatized I almost peed mysef. It wasn't so much the babbling, but the writhing that got to me. Somebody like Laughy though, a little twisted, would have dug it. Probably start going through folks wallets and such.I was just freaked. Couldn't figure out what to do with myself, run or just sit and sweat out the weirdness. I'm embarrased to say I ran. Do you folks get a hangover afterwards? Do you remember what you did or said? Does it make any sense to you, In your head, while you're speaking in tongues? Can you rotate your head 360 degrees? public demonstrations of babbling nonsense comes in many forms I plead the 5th.
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Post by andrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:26:53 GMT -5
A Course In Miracles is an example of a channeled book soaked in religious wordage. A bit heavy going, but beautiful, if there's one book I could perhaps find a slight remorse at having given away, it would be that one. It's the bible (or Jesus' teaching at least) as it 'should' have been. Of course, she is now in the political arena, and has taken some heavy flak for some of her spiritual views (particular ones that relate to LOA). Who's the 'she' please? Marianne Williamson....Democrat twitter.com/marwilliamson
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 10:40:37 GMT -5
She wasn't the channel for the ACIM material though, you know?
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