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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 10:17:04 GMT -5
Non-dualists have come to understand deeply what God is not. If in your perception that makes them atheists, that's fine. Non-dualists do not believe in hot/cold, darkness/light, love/hate, rich/poor, good/devil, so on so forth. Non-dualists are neither people. They are in-between. If they vote for a candidate in an election, they chose the none of above. They don't take sides in sports/boxing. They go about their ways incognito. They don't want to be known as this and that. They rather be the and. That's why in their conversations, they chose neutral. There's no certainty. They go for the wait and see attitude. Non-dualists are the rocks, mountains, trees, frogs and sea horses. Oh well, that's the way they live their lives. They can not stay that way all the time. They have to eat and survive. They have to get personal and show their wares for what they are worth. Is this you joking again?
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 10:36:31 GMT -5
Sorry lolz. I knew at the time I was being flippant. Coming back to it seems to me that it's a sort of converse of someone "pointing to the truth". It's like I wrote to ZD about the koans. Sometimes folks have a shift in perspective that they can't describe all that well until they take on some new culture. No worries, flippant is fun. I like the song 'turning Japanese', though I know it's just a cheezy pop song... but koans one of those 'uber-spiritual' things which spiritual people bought into - but they are really as cheezy as the song is. Then I say so so and people think I disrespect culture, but really, it's just that made a precious holy thing out of what amount to pop lyrics. I mean, the best lyrics ever written were "A-wop-bop-a-loo-lop a-lop bam boo"When you finally resolve that koan, please be respectful and don't reveal the answer on a public forum, okay?
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 10:44:17 GMT -5
A wise man is not disturbed by what one says even if it goes against his views on life. But do think it over what I write on this thread for there is some truth in it if you really reflect on God's capacity to do which is contrary to what we conceive as normal. God can also do the abnormal and mind boggling. It is worth remembering that the environment in which a god does the abnormal and the mind boggling, is none other than itself. Wadayamean?
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 10:53:48 GMT -5
well, in a way, I guess there is some truth to it... when you consider that whole "THAT which you really are is untouched by birth or death" dealio people peeps hear what they want to hear in that. It means the person doesn't die, and goes to heaven, right?
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Post by zendancer on Oct 13, 2017 11:12:34 GMT -5
These are very limited ideas. Direct experience is far more powerful and profound. One glimpse of the truth--one moment of unity-- and all ideas about the truth will become laughable. When one is situated in Krsna consciousness he sees the absolute truth in full. When Dhruva saw the face of Lord Vishnu, he said, " O my Lord! Now that I've seen You, I no longer desire anything from You. " Just the same, Lord Vishnu awarded Druhva Maharaj the planet Polestar where all planetary systems revolve. The Polestar is the Sisumara, the north star Polaris. It is the star planet where siddhas like Narada Muni approach before they enter the Vaikuntha planets. These are all ideas about what other people have experienced or thought. It's more enlightening to find the truth for oneself.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 13, 2017 11:15:17 GMT -5
Non-dualists do not believe in hot/cold, darkness/light, love/hate, rich/poor, good/devil, so on so forth. Non-dualists are neither people. They are in-between. If they vote for a candidate in an election, they chose the none of above. They don't take sides in sports/boxing. They go about their ways incognito. They don't want to be known as this and that. They rather be the and. That's why in their conversations, they chose neutral. There's no certainty. They go for the wait and see attitude. Non-dualists are the rocks, mountains, trees, frogs and sea horses. Oh well, that's the way they live their lives. They can not stay that way all the time. They have to eat and survive. They have to get personal and show their wares for what they are worth. Is this you joking again? Kinda weird I dreamt I was at my uncle Job's place in Lezo, Aklan, Philippines. This place is known when I wss in my childhood years I heard from folks there were witches living in this place. Here I was in my uncle Job's house saw kids with grotesque bodies with sores approaching me. As they got near I started chanting aloud, " Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna.Krsna!" I saw them retreat and began to melt. I.kept chanting and chanting until they disappeared. Then I recalled that my uncle Job died years ago and he was there talking to me surrounded by his friends drinking beer and eating steamed crabs. My uncle Job was asking me what was my problem and he wanted to help. I got goose bumps when I realize this was a dream and people there were from the dark world. I am asking you this question. Is this board ran by sorcerers and witches? Because in your avatar pics there is a frog, a sea horse, a cat. Do you engage in the occult or black magic/Tantra in this forum?
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 11:16:43 GMT -5
Okay, guys and girls. Here is my observation. When a dualist and non-dualist talk without reservation, the outcome is remarkable. But when a non-dualist talk with each other is boring. Same thing with dualists. There is an analogy to this. The meeting of a man and woman. The attraction is explosive. Love is generated from the interaction. The two become one and bingo! A baby is produced. There is progress. In other words, non-dualist and dualist need each other like a hole in the head. Do they need each other or not?
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Post by zendancer on Oct 13, 2017 11:16:48 GMT -5
Non-dualists do not believe in hot/cold, darkness/light, love/hate, rich/poor, good/devil, so on so forth. Non-dualists are neither people. They are in-between. If they vote for a candidate in an election, they chose the none of above. They don't take sides in sports/boxing. They go about their ways incognito. They don't want to be known as this and that. They rather be the and. That's why in their conversations, they chose neutral. There's no certainty. They go for the wait and see attitude. Non-dualists are the rocks, mountains, trees, frogs and sea horses. Oh well, that's the way they live their lives. They can not stay that way all the time. They have to eat and survive. They have to get personal and show their wares for what they are worth. Is this you joking again? No, just more ideas. People who spend their time imagining can't imagine that which is unimaginable. Ironically, the unimaginable lies in plain sight.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 13, 2017 11:18:24 GMT -5
When one is situated in Krsna consciousness he sees the absolute truth in full. When Dhruva saw the face of Lord Vishnu, he said, " O my Lord! Now that I've seen You, I no longer desire anything from You. " Just the same, Lord Vishnu awarded Druhva Maharaj the planet Polestar where all planetary systems revolve. The Polestar is the Sisumara, the north star Polaris. It is the star planet where siddhas like Narada Muni approach before they enter the Vaikuntha planets. These are all ideas about what other people have experienced or thought. It's more enlightening to find the truth for oneself. Please pardon me. Do you engage in the black arts? Are you a sorcerer?
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 13, 2017 11:21:24 GMT -5
Is this you joking again? No, just more ideas. People who spend their time imagining can't imagine that which is unimaginable. Ironically, the unimaginable lies in plain sight. You talk in non-specifics. They go round and round. Your reasoning has no definitive concrete answer.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 13, 2017 11:23:46 GMT -5
Okay, guys and girls. Here is my observation. When a dualist and non-dualist talk without reservation, the outcome is remarkable. But when a non-dualist talk with each other is boring. Same thing with dualists. There is an analogy to this. The meeting of a man and woman. The attraction is explosive. Love is generated from the interaction. The two become one and bingo! A baby is produced. There is progress. In other words, non-dualist and dualist need each other like a hole in the head. Do they need each other or not? They need each other by shooting bullets in each other's heads.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 13, 2017 11:28:45 GMT -5
Is this you joking again? No, just more ideas. People who spend their time imagining can't imagine that which is unimaginable. Ironically, the unimaginable lies in plain sight. Why can't you go directly what you really trying to say. Your words ran in circles.
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 12:02:58 GMT -5
Is this you joking again? Kinda weird I dreamt I was at my uncle Job's place in Lezo, Aklan, Philippines. This place is known when I wss in my childhood years I heard from folks there were witches living in this place. Here I was in my uncle Job's house saw kids with grotesque bodies with sores approaching me. As they got near I started chanting aloud, " Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna.Krsna!" I saw them retreat and began to melt. I.kept chanting and chanting until they disappeared. Then I recalled that my uncle Job died years ago and he was there talking to me surrounded by his friends drinking beer and eating steamed crabs. My uncle Job was asking me what was my problem and he wanted to help. I got goose bumps when I realize this was a dream and people there were from the dark world. I am asking you this question. Is this board ran by sorcerers and witches? Because in your avatar pics there is a frog, a sea horse, a cat. Do you engage in the occult or black magic/Tantra in this forum? The seahorse and cat are in other avatars. Are you okay?
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 12:11:28 GMT -5
Do they need each other or not? They need each other by shooting bullets in each other's heads. So, you live in the part of town where the dualists and nondualists rumble in the street? Oh, what webs we weave...
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2017 12:12:31 GMT -5
No, just more ideas. People who spend their time imagining can't imagine that which is unimaginable. Ironically, the unimaginable lies in plain sight. Why can't you go directly what you really trying to say. Your words ran in circles. It makes perfect sense to me.
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