Ellie Roozdar

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A new member Jan mentioned this woman. She is very good ..found her teachings to be alive and real.

[wei sa]

Ah good you already set up a thread for this - I was just planning to do it when I noticed that she has never before been even mentioned in passing on this forum. 

I'll paste in the quote from Jan from the other thread: 

Dec 7, 2016 13:24:31 GMT -5 jan said:

For your interest in Enlightenment: Look up Ellie Roozdar on youtube. She has a series of 9 videos, all less than 10 min each. The series is titled: "Who Am I" (of course it is...;-))
It is a most concise description of what one needs to do. It worked for me.

I came in through quantum physics and studying the real nature of the universe. -- This led me to J. Krisnamurti, Nisargadatta, Ramana.

The rest from the last century and those on the internet now are too "new age" for me. They all have their stories of war and being destitute, in prison, nearing suicide, close to insanity, etc. That may all be, it's of no consequence or help to those ready. I find it is just entertainment for the mind. -- My husband sent Ellie Roozdar's youtube link to me, and I found it helped "finish the job" that I started with all the gurus I mentioned above.

Haven't watched them yet, but will soon. Here's a link to a YouTube-search that brings up all the 'Who am I'-videos. 

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Dec 9, 2016 0:43:36 GMT -5 wei sa said:

Ah good you already set up a thread for this - I was just planning to do it when I noticed that she has never before been even mentioned in passing on this forum. 

I'll paste in the quote from Jan from the other thread: 

Dec 7, 2016 13:24:31 GMT -5 jan said:

For your interest in Enlightenment: Look up Ellie Roozdar on youtube. She has a series of 9 videos, all less than 10 min each. The series is titled: "Who Am I" (of course it is...;-))
It is a most concise description of what one needs to do. It worked for me.

I came in through quantum physics and studying the real nature of the universe. -- This led me to J. Krisnamurti, Nisargadatta, Ramana.

The rest from the last century and those on the internet now are too "new age" for me. They all have their stories of war and being destitute, in prison, nearing suicide, close to insanity, etc. That may all be, it's of no consequence or help to those ready. I find it is just entertainment for the mind. -- My husband sent Ellie Roozdar's youtube link to me, and I found it helped "finish the job" that I started with all the gurus I mentioned above.

Haven't watched them yet, but will soon. Here's a link to a YouTube-search that brings up all the 'Who am I'-videos. 

Your most welcome, She's extremely clear ..The only issue I have with her..Ayda said it in a talk one of the biggest bars to awakening is it's only for special people and I' not special enough beyond that she is crystal clear with all the fundamentals.

One thing she said which I like when she tells people why go spend all your time in satsangs with a teacher..you go there and you find out what your true nature is well that's nothing she says you are your true nature don't need to go to a teacher for that and then she makes it clear this is NOt awakening...which is so true so many people think they have awaken because they now have a good intellectual gasp on it..again it's not awakening for awakening to happen you need to Live it which is far different than just understanding the fundamentals.

[bluey]

Good to see you back. Will look at it tomorrow. Groundhog Day this is my second attempt at posting this.

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Hi Bluey my favorite wordsmith thank you much for keeping me in mind and your comment to Peter nothing ever wasted I say..looking forward m8
ASW

[wei sa]

I'm continuing from my intro-thread, as most of this relates more closely to Ellie Roozdar. 

Dec 9, 2016 16:23:20 GMT -5 jan said:

The value of having someone in person to sit down with, if they are in fact enlightened, and if they present the concepts to you in a way you can understand it, cannot be overstated.

Yeah, I bet. Sadly I haven't had the privilege of sitting down with someone enlightened in person - except with a Zen master in Hong Kong, but I cannot really tell if she's enlightened or not. Closest I've gotten is to interact with awake people here, which is also a wonderful opportunity. Unfortunately I don't know a lot of enlightened teachers in Europe, so even after I return to Finland (where I live permanently), I'm not sure how to get to sit down with an awake person. There's of course Mooji in Portugal, but he's such a superstar now that it's probably too much hassle to get involved with that...

I saw numerous videos of teachers with seekers, answering their questions, much in the spirit of satsang with the teachers of the last century. You listen and hopefully, if you hear / see something in that exchange that resonates with you, then it can be helpful. If you can try it at home, great.

More to the point, it seems there are quite a few gurus out there that have many videos of them doing the interview circuit or giving satsang. That's why I suggested Ellie's videos because they are completely different. COMPLETELY. So not to exclude what you can learn from other teachers, but to give you a foundation, Ellie is my recommendation.

I think you're making an interesting point about the format of the teaching, which doesn't seem to be often highlighted, as we usually just focus on what they're saying. Yes, it is true that most teachers aren't really experimenting with different formats or ways to deliver the message, but are content with adopting the traditional satsang or interview-formats. It would probably be useful for there to be available a greater variety of formats to deliver the message, e.g. different kinds of immersive audiovisual experiences. 

As far as the critique that she doesn't think everyone is "ready" to awaken, if you look at one video where she gives percentages (she used to teach mathematics), treal number encompasses approximately 330 million people in the world today . . . even though a small percentage, quite a handful~

Well, if she thinks that 1-6% are ready to awaken (as you said in a below), I think that's a pretty high estimate. Somewhere else I heard the estimate of one in a million. I think everybody agrees that enlightenment is pretty rare, but some teachers (like Adyashanti) want to remind us that 1.) it's not AS rare as many of us think (e.g. just Buddha and some other very special people, very infrequently), and 2.) it's not glamorous, automatically leading to some charismatic spiritual leader with an aura of light around him/her (Adyashanti said that people that we consider very ordinary, like our grandmother, could be awake, e.g. free from the illusion of selfhood). 

But aside from critiquing that point of view, if you look at the entire reason Pure Awareness enters into the agreement of the mind/body connection when a manifestation and comes to life, it is to enact the PLAY. What play would there be without players? So it makes sense that the majority of players here are happily playing in this eternally unfolding story. This is as it is designed. And what an amazing story to be in!

Isn't this a bit too much speculation / "minding"? I mean, it's an appealing theory, but I think there's a reason most teachers say that we cannot really say or conceive why this is happening - why "Pure Awareness enters into the agreement of the mind/body connection". It could be a play, or it could be an experiment, or there could be a divine purpose (e.g. mass-enlightenment), or perhaps most likely it is completely incomprehensible by the mind and incommunicable by words. 

-- I understand when she says if you have anything left you want to do, be passionate about, desire, -- just go do it! In other words, get it all out of your system, THEN with full satisfaction (or perhaps exhaustion) you come to this completely "ready" with nothing to hold you in the illusion. 

If there is any speck of the ego that clings to the illusion, any desire, yearning it can keep you trapped. And then, people wonder why they cannot drop the illusion. You must be willing to let all of it go. If not, why not go enjoy the play? It is as it is meant to be.

This is an interesting point that I haven't often heard stated in this way. Although perhaps there's a trap there as well - there's always something more that we want to do / desire as long as we identify as separate persons. So as long as we're in the state of egoic consciousness, we won't be able to "get it all out of our system" and be "ready". So a bit of a chicken & egg -dilemma. But still, I think there's value to this way of putting it. 

 -- It's much more than this, but I believe this is what she is merely stating. 1-6% is ready to awaken, OR is ready to be able to make the leap from desire for the play, to desire for what is the truth of what makes the play even happen. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be in the play!

Well, so much for a "quick reply". -- Hope this was useful!

Sure, thanks! I've only watched the first "Who am I"-videos so far, but will shortly watch the rest.

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Also if you care to look at Ellie first Batgap interview she also clearly says what I said about death, that most ppl don't fear it and even the reason she gave is the same as mine..just food for thought.

[wei sa]

Ok, cheers for the heads up, I'll put it on my to-watch list.

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Dec 11, 2016 9:08:31 GMT -5 wei sa said:

Ok, cheers for the heads up, I'll put it on my to-watch list.

Good it's one of her best interviews imho and if you want to know more about death from my perspective it's worth the watch. 

[universalenergy]

allow me to awaken you to become one with the universal energy so we may teach each other, i need you all now.

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Dec 19, 2016 23:56:24 GMT -5 universalenergy said:

allow me to awaken you to become one with the universal energy so we may teach each other, i need you all now.

Why did you post under Ellie?

[universalenergy]

not sure, new to this forum thing just here for assisting with awakening people to life energy. that is my purpose but i wonder what other peoples purposes are?

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Dec 20, 2016 9:17:03 GMT -5 universalenergy said:

not sure, new to this forum thing just here for assisting with awakening people to life energy. that is my purpose but i wonder what other peoples purposes are?

Actually there are quite a few here that have awaken to their true nature. If you are serious then I suggest writing up a bio on yourself, what triggered your awakening, how are you now any different than before..you know give us your story not claims, just be real..thanks