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Post by justlikeyou on Oct 9, 2015 21:54:35 GMT -5
What did you think when you chose the option in your profile? I don't remember. Anyway, your missing the point in the discussion we were having. Again, just curious, why is it important to not unclick the "Makes your online status invisible to all users except certain staff" button?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 21:57:02 GMT -5
I don't remember. Anyway, your missing the point in the discussion we were having. Again, just curious, why is it important to not unclick the "Makes your online status invisible to all users except certain staff" button? I'm curious as well, why is it important to you?
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Post by justlikeyou on Oct 9, 2015 22:03:07 GMT -5
Again, just curious, why is it important to not unclick the "Makes your online status invisible to all users except certain staff" button? I'm curious as well, why is it important to you? It wasn't until I noticed your coyness with others. You did it again by avoiding answering the question just now. But it's all good though. Nobody here will try to take your secret from you. Nighty night and pleasant dreams.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 22:09:02 GMT -5
I'm curious as well, why is it important to you? It wasn't until I noticed your coyness with others. You did it again by avoiding answering the question just now. But it's all good though. Nobody here will try to take your secret from you. Nighty night and pleasant dreams. I'm sure like Sharon you have some knowledge about the things and objects you observe in the world. So, why do you feel the need to be condescending to them?
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Post by justlikeyou on Oct 9, 2015 22:17:50 GMT -5
It wasn't until I noticed your coyness with others. You did it again by avoiding answering the question just now. But it's all good though. Nobody here will try to take your secret from you. Nighty night and pleasant dreams. I'm sure like Sharon you have some knowledge about the things and objects you observe in the world. So, why do you feel the need to be condescending to them? I don't equate curiosity with condescension. I am very curious about many things and objects and happenings in the phenomenal world but I wouldn't label that as patronizing. But feel free to equate them if that is your inclination. Peace out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 23:15:15 GMT -5
ZD, is the 'I thought' in Ramana Maharshi terms, the same as this 'little person inside the body' you speak of? For example, you have no 'I thought' any more, even intermittantly? No, no. I have "I" thoughts all the time, and they refer to a body named "Bob," but they are no longer imagined to be generated by an entity inside a body looking at an outside world. "I" am THIS manifesting through a particular human form. If I meet someone new, and they ask me who I am, I will respond, "I'm Bob," but if someone who is searching for the truth asks me that question, I will respond, "I am you," or "I am THIS (spreading my arms open to indicate what has no boundary)," or "I am what just asked the question." IOW, I am the same thing that you are--the entire process of reality. When you said there was no "me" anymore I wasn't sure what you meant, so this extra clarification helps. I can't say I ever felt there was a little person inside me pulling the strings. Like most people, I just felt that I was me. I was the author of my thoughts and actions. To go deeper with that association, there were consequences arising from my actions, consequences that would determine my current and future happiness, so control of events was a crucial factor in reaching the goal of moment to moment fulfillment. This person felt an attachment to all of these external objects that seemed to play a part in the constant goal of achieving satisfaction, whatever mental or physical form that might take. Is this not the human story? So as far as this "me" is concerned, it still remains after realization. The difference between the "me" before and the "me" now, is that this "me" is a free, non attached "me" that knows it's source. Because who I am is unbounded and undifferentiated, the "me" that arises from that is just a spontaneous expression of THAT. What cannot be adequately explained is that this "me" has no author. Although I embrace the feeling that I am making a choice or decision to do something with every arising thought, the idea that there is an entity creating something behind the curtain is nonsensical. Whatever is happening seems to be happening exactly as it should. It doesn't need my approval or intervention because I'm not the author, only the spectator, but it's still my show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 2:13:39 GMT -5
That's what I said say that to yourself, Point out to me where I contradict myself in a single place. I did that a couple days ago, and you refused to respond to it. Yes, I left it because I believe you are not going to understand anything what I say to you there! There are certain things are very pretty clear but still you are bringing 1000 concepts to make you correct rather than simply looking into the obvious truth! You are just analyzing the possibility of what are all the way that might happen, but that's simple and I am sure you are not going to advocate the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 2:14:54 GMT -5
yeah forcing you could say If you do not like the word 'pulling'! Okay, thanks. I think 'pulling' is a fine word, when we're talking about pulling a cart or a rope. Pulling yourself creates a very very very odd and somehow disconcerting image. Okay, i would avoid using the word 'pulling', I would rather use the word 'Force' henceforth!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 2:15:38 GMT -5
So what are you saying now? I need to wait so that someone else would teach that to Tzu ? I couldn't understand the comparison here. He's trouting the value of saving breaths. ok
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 2:16:50 GMT -5
I meant to say space exist in consciousness(Perceiver) not outside! Or space doesn't exist in itself! In what form would you say it exists in consciousness? Space is the perception! It can't exist independently from the perceiver!
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Post by zin on Oct 10, 2015 4:18:41 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if anyone other than Laughter has a go with this **likes twice!**
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 4:41:22 GMT -5
She isn't?! Then why is it important to her if I(a part of her body) is visible or not? It's not important to me. This is an opportunity for you to see, for yourself, whether it makes any difference to your relationship with this forum. If there is honestly no difference to your relationship with the forum, once you put your status on visible, then fine. My suggestion would have clearly been misguided.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 4:59:49 GMT -5
What did you think when you chose the option in your profile? I don't remember. Anyway, your missing the point in the discussion we were having. It's okay though you aren't the only one. Are we having a discussion Source? It really doesn't feel like that to me.
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 10, 2015 5:14:52 GMT -5
That is the story you are telling yourself in your personal mind.. when the mind is still and the stories fall silent there is only what 'is', unfolding and happening.. time/space is the stage upon which the unfolding happens.. I am not telling any stories, I am just looking what's happening, You are not seeing this, because ignorance is needed here, So don't worry! Stillness and clarity are the ways of seeing what 'is'.. you are not there, yet, and may not get there as long as you remain attached to beliefs..
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 10, 2015 5:19:50 GMT -5
Better than a nondualist, they'll try to convince threats that they don't really exist and then tell their ward they're not really in danger or suffering, because there's no one there to suffer.. bigot /ˈbɪɡət/ noun a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race big·ot·ed ˈbiɡədəd/ adjective having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others. "when the mind is still and the stories fall silent there is only what 'is', unfolding and happening" -Tzu Wonder what my still mind see unfolding and happening? Now, apply those meanings to a group of people that reject any other than their imagined beliefs.. that suggest to those that disagree with their beliefs that they should depart from their exclusive group.. be willing to look in the mirror and 'see what is'..
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