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Post by jay17 on May 14, 2015 15:09:12 GMT -5
And you think you are not. I am profoundly at peace and enjoying my life, if you are too, then i see no problem for either of us. I don't see a problem either. Peace of mind is a wonderful thing. HUZZAH ! And i will point out that enigma's claim about me, contains a tiny error...tiny, but hugely significant.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 15:38:24 GMT -5
I don't see a problem either. Peace of mind is a wonderful thing. HUZZAH ! And i will point out that enigma's claim about me contains a tiny error...tiny, but hugely significant. ahhh, that fickle peace of mind dealio.. only disturbed by... tiny, but hugely significant errors (written) about you hmmmm
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Post by enigma on May 14, 2015 15:56:31 GMT -5
Jay thinks he is a mind/body/person. And you think you are not. I am profoundly at peace and enjoying my life, if you are too, then i see no problem for either of us. The problem I was addressing involved my strong suspicion that Wholla was inquiring about your nonexistent Self realization. Otherwise, I couldn't care less.
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Post by jay17 on May 14, 2015 15:59:46 GMT -5
HUZZAH ! And i will point out that enigma's claim about me contains a tiny error...tiny, but hugely significant. ahhh, that fickle peace of mind dealio.. only disturbed by... tiny, but hugely significant errors (written) about you hmmmm The issue of 'a person must always be motivated by internal adverse disturbances when they respond', has already been discussed. You do not even know what this tiny error is i see, but you have already jumped to a conclusion about my state of being...i theorize, due to your preconceptions of the above issue. Teleprompting makes for quick and efficient conversations, but bypasses 'contemplation'.
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Post by enigma on May 14, 2015 16:00:52 GMT -5
I don't see a problem either. Peace of mind is a wonderful thing. Peace of mind is the byproduct of Living ones Life fully in the presence of this moment. It is the allowing of Life to unfold as it will, without an identity associated with a conditioned mind. Yes. The relative peace within mind/body identification is cool too, though it is neither profound nor permanent.
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Post by jay17 on May 14, 2015 16:08:59 GMT -5
And you think you are not. I am profoundly at peace and enjoying my life, if you are too, then i see no problem for either of us. The problem I was addressing involved my strong suspicion that Wholla was inquiring about your nonexistent Self realization. Otherwise, I couldn't care less. Well, then that's your problem isn't it, not mine.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 16:40:26 GMT -5
ahhh, that fickle peace of mind dealio.. only disturbed by... tiny, but hugely significant errors (written) about you hmmmm The issue of 'a person must always be motivated by internal adverse disturbances when they respond', has already been discussed. You do not even know what this tiny error is i see, but you have already jumped to a conclusion about my state of being...i theorize, due to your preconceptions of the above issue. Teleprompting makes for quick and efficient conversations, but bypasses 'contemplation'. ok, I've already lost interest in your peace for the person theory, so carry on but how does that 'contemplation' thing occur? does it involve answering your own questions?
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Post by enigma on May 14, 2015 17:06:14 GMT -5
The problem I was addressing involved my strong suspicion that Wholla was inquiring about your nonexistent Self realization. Otherwise, I couldn't care less. Well, then that's your problem isn't it, not mine. I don't see how it's my problem, and I didn't say it was your problem. I wasn't even talking to you. Is this an example of your "profound peace"?
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Post by jay17 on May 15, 2015 1:15:47 GMT -5
The problem I was addressing involved my strong suspicion that Wholla was inquiring about your nonexistent Self realization. Otherwise, I couldn't care less. Well, then that's your problem isn't it, not mine. I don't see how it's my problem, and I didn't say it was your problem. I wasn't even talking to you. Is this an example of your "profound peace"? Sure...it's an example of the peace within me. I can converse with others from a peaceful state of being. I am not adversely affected if you disagree and think i am motivated by an agitated state when i communicate. We've had this discussion before and you are adamant your opinion on that matter is correct. If you wish to debate the issue, i suggest you take it up with tzu, he seems to enjoy those kinds of interactions. You are entitled and free to perceive existence any way you choose, enigma, they are your conclusions, not mine, i have no use for them. If they are useful to you, then please proceed, i will not try to disrupt your relationship with them. If you are convinced i am not in a state of peace when i interact, i see no rational reason to dispute what you see, i see no reason to try to convince you otherwise. I am well aware you were not talking to me...you were talking about me. Were you aware that neither wholla nor i were talking to you, but it seems to me you simply cannot contain yourself when an opportunity arises to denigrate another who publicly expresses ideals that do not match the ones you hold to. If you won't or can't see the bolded text is your problem, and not mine...so be it. I will continue to conclude it's your problem, not mine. It's not my problem, so i do not have to allocate any time or effort to resolve it. If you will not or cannot see it's your problem, then it seems to me we are back to the beginning again... I am profoundly at peace and enjoying my life, if you are too, then i see no problem for either of us.
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Post by jay17 on May 15, 2015 1:23:24 GMT -5
The issue of 'a person must always be motivated by internal adverse disturbances when they respond', has already been discussed. You do not even know what this tiny error is i see, but you have already jumped to a conclusion about my state of being...i theorize, due to your preconceptions of the above issue. Teleprompting makes for quick and efficient conversations, but bypasses 'contemplation'. ok, I've already lost interest in your peace for the person theory, so carry on but how does that 'contemplation' thing occur? does it involve answering your own questions? Q1. see Q2. Q2. it can.
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Post by enigma on May 15, 2015 11:32:38 GMT -5
I don't see how it's my problem, and I didn't say it was your problem. I wasn't even talking to you. Is this an example of your "profound peace"? Sure...it's an example of the peace within me. I can converse with others from a peaceful state of being.I am not adversely affected if you disagree and think i am motivated by an agitated state when i communicate. We've had this discussion before and you are adamant your opinion on that matter is correct. If you wish to debate the issue, i suggest you take it up with tzu, he seems to enjoy those kinds of interactions. You are entitled and free to perceive existence any way you choose, enigma, they are your conclusions, not mine, i have no use for them. If they are useful to you, then please proceed, i will not try to disrupt your relationship with them. If you are convinced i am not in a state of peace when i interact, i see no rational reason to dispute what you see, i see no reason to try to convince you otherwise. I am well aware you were not talking to me...you were talking about me. Were you aware that neither wholla nor i were talking to you, but it seems to me you simply cannot contain yourself when an opportunity arises to denigrate another who publicly expresses ideals that do not match the ones you hold to. If you won't or can't see the bolded text is your problem, and not mine...so be it. I will continue to conclude it's your problem, not mine. It's not my problem, so i do not have to allocate any time or effort to resolve it. If you will not or cannot see it's your problem, then it seems to me we are back to the beginning again... I am profoundly at peace and enjoying my life, if you are too, then i see no problem for either of us. And yet you see a problem for me that I don't see, and you deny that there is a problem for you that nobody has suggested. And then you go on an on about how it's all perfectly all right and you have no need to address it. Yes, I see an agitated state there and it's all a creation of your own mind. I was merely suggesting to Wholla that there was some miscommunication with you. There's nothing for you to defend or deny.
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Post by jay17 on May 15, 2015 18:34:37 GMT -5
Sure...it's an example of the peace within me. I can converse with others from a peaceful state of being.I am not adversely affected if you disagree and think i am motivated by an agitated state when i communicate. We've had this discussion before and you are adamant your opinion on that matter is correct. If you wish to debate the issue, i suggest you take it up with tzu, he seems to enjoy those kinds of interactions. You are entitled and free to perceive existence any way you choose, enigma, they are your conclusions, not mine, i have no use for them. If they are useful to you, then please proceed, i will not try to disrupt your relationship with them. If you are convinced i am not in a state of peace when i interact, i see no rational reason to dispute what you see, i see no reason to try to convince you otherwise. I am well aware you were not talking to me...you were talking about me. Were you aware that neither wholla nor i were talking to you, but it seems to me you simply cannot contain yourself when an opportunity arises to denigrate another who publicly expresses ideals that do not match the ones you hold to. If you won't or can't see the bolded text is your problem, and not mine...so be it. I will continue to conclude it's your problem, not mine. It's not my problem, so i do not have to allocate any time or effort to resolve it. If you will not or cannot see it's your problem, then it seems to me we are back to the beginning again... And yet you see a problem for me that I don't see, and you deny that there is a problem for you that nobody has suggested. And then you go on an on about how it's all perfectly all right and you have no need to address it. Yes, I see an agitated state there and it's all a creation of your own mind. I was merely suggesting to Wholla that there was some miscommunication with you. There's nothing for you to defend or deny. Seems to me that you are facepalmingly mistaken enigma. It is you that sees a problem, and it is you that suggests one exists... The problem I was addressing involved my strong suspicion that Wholla was inquiring about your nonexistent Self realization. Otherwise, I couldn't care less. ... i repeat... Well, then that's your problem isn't it, not mine.
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Post by AlphaA on May 15, 2015 21:11:29 GMT -5
If there was such a thing as Enlightenment, all that we know would be hopeless. lol
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