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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 7, 2015 23:08:38 GMT -5
Being mindful means that mind and body are in the same place. Ayya Khema
page 9, Know Where You're Going, A Complete Buddhist Guide to Meditation, Faith, and Everyday Transcendence, 1990 (As, When the Iron Eagle Flies) 2014
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Post by silver on Jan 8, 2015 2:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 22, 2017 23:21:30 GMT -5
Being mindful means that mind and body are in the same place. Ayya Khema page 9, Know Where You're Going, A Complete Buddhist Guide to Meditation, Faith, and Everyday Transcendence, 1990 (As, When the Iron Eagle Flies) 2014 ...........bump.......... |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 3, 2018 15:59:34 GMT -5
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 14, 2020 22:01:52 GMT -5
………..bumped...….. Being mindful means that mind and body are in the same place. Ayya Khema page 9, Know Where You're Going, A Complete Buddhist Guide to Meditation, Faith, and Everyday Transcendence, 1990 (As, When the Iron Eagle Flies) 2014 |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 18, 2022 11:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 21:43:28 GMT -5
To be mindful is to be mindful of awareness not to be mindful of an object such as mind and body. If you are mindful of an object then all you will be doing is reinforcing the dualistic aspect of knower, process of knowing and object that is known. Either you go directly to awareness and be mindful of that or start with the mindfulness of an object, but it must result in the letting go of it so that one arrives at objectless awareness alone. Only transcendence of an object will get you to non-dual awareness. Being carefully mindful of walking or pouring tea and maintaining a focus on that object will just keep you in duality. What would normally be an effortless unconscious process of walking and pouring tea now becomes an awkward focusing on each aspect of it. So you start to trip over yourself because you're consciously focussing on your feet moving which is unnatural and you've also lost out in not experiencing awareness because you're so focused on every aspect of walking. That is what most people seem to think mindfulness is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 22:44:45 GMT -5
To be mindful is to be mindful of awareness not to be mindful of an object such as mind and body. If you are mindful of an object then all you will be doing is reinforcing the dualistic aspect of knower, process of knowing and object that is known. Either you go directly to awareness and be mindful of that or start with the mindfulness of an object, but it must result in the letting go of it so that one arrives at objectless awareness alone. Only transcendence of an object will get you to non-dual awareness. Being carefully mindful of walking or pouring tea and maintaining a focus on that object will just keep you in duality. What would normally be an effortless unconscious process of walking and pouring tea now becomes an awkward focusing on each aspect of it. So you start to trip over yourself because you're consciously focussing on your feet moving which is unnatural and you've also lost out in not experiencing awareness because you're so focused on every aspect of walking. That is what most people seem to think mindfulness is. Interesting! When you totally in objectless awareness, you will lose the body sensation as well, eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 22:49:10 GMT -5
Interesting! When you totally in objectless awareness, you will lose the body sensation as well, eh? Yes definitely. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:03:28 GMT -5
Interesting! When you totally in objectless awareness, you will lose the body sensation as well, eh? Yes definitely. Usually how long it will take you to reach such a state? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:05:34 GMT -5
Usually how long it will take you to reach such a state? in no time at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:09:32 GMT -5
Usually how long it will take you to reach such a state? in no time at all. As soon as you sit meditation, you will reach such a state? I did not hear any human can do this so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:12:31 GMT -5
As soon as you sit meditation, you will reach such a state? I did not hear any human can do this so far. that's because I'm always in that state. I don't meditate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:31:20 GMT -5
As soon as you sit meditation, you will reach such a state? I did not hear any human can do this so far. that's because I'm always in that state. I don't meditate. So you dont feel your body always? Body sense never returns? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 23:42:31 GMT -5
that's because I'm always in that state. I don't meditate. So you dont feel your body always? Body sense never returns? no, I have sense of body sometimes. Let me explain in practical terms. Nirvikalpa samadhi is pure objectless non-dual awareness. In that state the body sense is lost. It is a temporary state. But sahaja samadhi which is my state is permanent. It is the experience of both pure awareness and the experience of changing phenomena which includes body sensations. Sometimes pure awareness is favored more and at other times experience which includes bodily sensations is favored more. If you were to stick a pin in my arm my attention would momentarily favor the pain more than the awareness. When the pain is over the attention would immediately snap back towards awareness. Imagine a rubber band at rest. This is pure awareness. Now stretch the rubber band. This is going towards experience but the more you pull that rubber band towards experience the greater the resistance you will feel because the rubber band wants to go back to a state of rest because that's its natural state. |
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