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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 7:48:27 GMT -5
Depends on if the practice is done for a goal .. if the path is imagined to lead anywhere. Seems that they sure certainly could, but that would just be another opportunity to see something (hope), as false. ... maybe, if a peep is dead-set-ingrained on the idea of their separate peepness then false hope is a step in the right direction. That's the key distinction. A practice motivated and directed by mind, as all practices are, cannot be the cause of the sunlight that does not enter the cave, but it can be effective in removing the boulders that block it. One need not cause the sun to shine, as it is always shining. One need not cause the truth to appear in the form of realization, but merely cease turning away from it. This turning away is in the domain of mind. Using and involving mind in search for that which is prior to mind is not the contradiction. The dilemma is that the reason for seeking must necessarily be false. The truth is never sought by that which is false, which is why accidents are important. A practice that is able to let someone see the light is certainly a worthy practice in my mind, whether that's simply not closing one's eyes or not obstructing with boulders or whatever.
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Post by enigma on Jul 25, 2014 8:52:38 GMT -5
That's the key distinction. A practice motivated and directed by mind, as all practices are, cannot be the cause of the sunlight that does not enter the cave, but it can be effective in removing the boulders that block it. One need not cause the sun to shine, as it is always shining. One need not cause the truth to appear in the form of realization, but merely cease turning away from it. This turning away is in the domain of mind. Using and involving mind in search for that which is prior to mind is not the contradiction. The dilemma is that the reason for seeking must necessarily be false. The truth is never sought by that which is false, which is why accidents are important. A practice that is able to let someone see the light is certainly a worthy practice in my mind, whether that's simply not closing one's eyes or not obstructing with boulders or whatever. A good practice is an opportunity for an 'accident'. Maybe all we can do is create opportunities for ourselves and each other.
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Post by laughter on Jul 25, 2014 8:55:52 GMT -5
That's the key distinction. A practice motivated and directed by mind, as all practices are, cannot be the cause of the sunlight that does not enter the cave, but it can be effective in removing the boulders that block it. One need not cause the sun to shine, as it is always shining. One need not cause the truth to appear in the form of realization, but merely cease turning away from it. This turning away is in the domain of mind. Using and involving mind in search for that which is prior to mind is not the contradiction. The dilemma is that the reason for seeking must necessarily be false. The truth is never sought by that which is false, which is why accidents are important. A practice that is able to let someone see the light is certainly a worthy practice in my mind, whether that's simply not closing one's eyes or not obstructing with boulders or whatever. The obstacles that are removed are the obstacles to clarity. What remains in even the clearest of clarity is seer and seen. No practice is applicable to that remainder.
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