Post by jettimick on Jan 26, 2014 7:06:32 GMT -5
Here's some stuff on the witness from the book, Maybe I'm Jesus, available on Amazon. I'm at the early stages of getting a kid's book in motion, and do most of my power writing during the day, and want to place my focus there until I get things tied up. I'm always available through email (jettimick@gmail.com) for comments and discussion.
In terms of the dynamics stuff, base 60 math in navigation remains a fundamentally non assaultive form of communication. After all, who can you really assault but yourself?
Enjoy time and space, while it lasts,
Love,
-Jetti
THE WITNESS
“Can you describe consciousness more deeply?”
“Consciousness is awake to this moment, but isn’t separate from it. It permeates life into form, while remaining untouched or unlimited by the creation which is perceived. It is the limitless and infinite observer, the witness to your witnessing.”
“So witnessing the witness is something which can be done?”
“The primordial witness is one without other. When the self with its wants, needs, beliefs, begins to question the foundation to those ideas, it is within the witness that this process happens. The self, person, or mind, can reflect back on the idea of being witnessed, but never gets around to witnessing itself. Thus, witnessing cannot be done by the self, and is always being done by the witness.”
“So the witness is awareness, or consciousness?”
“The idea of the witness is itself witnessed, and only possesses meaning within the framework of time. In order for anything to be witnessed, the idea that something exists separate from it must be perceived. In that sense, we could say the witness is both aware and conscious, but remains outside the contents of awareness or consciousness. What appears in or to awareness, is itself, content which is witnessed.”
“So the witness isn’t actually separate?”
“Correct. It isn’t more than an idea.”
“So I am the witness?”
“There is the idea of the witness, which is itself, witnessed by something which is not the idea. The idea you are something witnessed, the cause of all spiritual malady, is undone through the witnessing process. Within the context of being something undone, there is a witness you appear in and to. Within the context that what is undone never was and what is witnessing always is, there is no witness and nothing witnessed, only the One.”
“We are all the One?”
“There is only the One. From years of experience we are conditioned to think and move in certain ways, and the motion of this process is not in itself the cause of struggle or strife.
The true root of suffering is this world and the life perpetuated by it, the collective engine of the human saga. We identify as separate aspects of the creative principle because our emotional bodies yearn for protection from a world we can’t ultimately control. Through this yearning process the creative principle splits off from itself into the idea that one is not many and many not one. When the split is noticed, the great journey home begins, along with the end of struggle and strife.”
“What is this something that splits?”
“You might think of it as the mind or person, but ultimately there isn’t anything there. Healing the split mind holds the key to the door.”
“What is a split mind?”
“The split mind can manifest in a variety of ways. Thinking, and then imagining you don’t want to be thinking from within the thought process itself in war-like fashion. It can and more often does manifest unconsciously in other ways.”
“So within a certain context, there is a thinker?”
“From within the movement of thought appearing to the witness arises the idea of the origin to the movement. There is the idea of the thinker, and you are not that idea.
Yet within the being human experience thinking is virtually inevitable. Walk into a crowded room and see what’s witnessed then. Ultimately there is no thinker, but relatively, the thinking experience still exists when you want to partake in it.”
“How does identification with the thinker arise?”
“Through the belief that you are what you aren’t.”
“And yet, you still acknowledge that out here you are Jetti?”
“Yes, and within a certain context, we could even say I believe that, or think and feel as if that's true.”
“What kind of belief causes suffering?”
“Those that aren’t true, which ultimately, none are. But do not discount the value of relative truth simply because some enlightened master tells you beliefs are false. Witnessing beliefs or dynamics perpetuated by them can lead to an inquiry process through which untrue beliefs are uprooted or made conscious. You don’t need to believe the lights are on for the lights to be on, but I think we all agree the lights are on.”
“What sort of dynamics?”
“Those which you have willingness to notice for whatever reason.”
“What kind of reason?”
“Suffering, exhaustion from endless mind games, hurting loved ones, things like this.”
“What is suffering?”
“Resistance to your personal trajectory grounded in a mind split.”
“So enlightenment is not the end of suffering?”
“If there is no beginning or end, how can enlightenment be that?”
“But you, your experience, you still suffer?”
“I still think and emote as a human being, and not all thoughts and feelings are pleasant or pleasurable. Yet even in the presence of grief or sadness remains a joy to it all, a fully absorbed appreciation.”
“You still grieve?”
“If there is a calling to grieve I still answer the phone. The absence of grief, despair, sadness, pain, are only sought in resistance to them. The absence of the idea that resistance is necessary lies freedom, not the absence of the experiences themselves. Grief is irrelevant.”
“And yet, would you not say that grieving experiences have opened your consciousness?”
“The idea certain emotions should not happen can lead to split mind mechanics which likewise cause agony and anguish. The need for grief would be unnecessary in the absence of that idea in the first place. Building dams to keep emotional energy at bay leads to a yearning for a conduit, and the experience of grief can provide that. The absence of agony and anguish is preferred to their presence, seemingly.”
“What about finding the silence?”
“I’m not sure I understand the question.”
“When I meditate, sometimes I feel a ting in my back or shoulders, and I experience that as blissful and liberating, and I connect those experiences with a silent mind.”
“Can a noisy mind find the absence of itself?”
“Well, yes, I might think heavily throughout the day, dealing with work, and when I come home and meditate, I find the absence of myself.”
“Something cannot find the absence of something. The absence is already present.”
“And yet, I have the experience of feeling absent every time I meditate.”
“You imagine you do.”
“Whether I imagine it or not, I can only speak from experience. When I meditate, I find the absence of myself.”
“When you don’t meditate, you witness the presence of something else, and it is identification with that which is the issue.”
“I think I see what you’re saying, but explain why I find the experience of meditation preferable to the experience of thinking heavily throughout the day.”
“You think heavily throughout the day because you want to. Then you come home and imagine you didn’t want to be doing that, and then you imagine you aren’t thinking.”
“How can you say this? My daily experience is rigorous, and sometimes, I truly do not want to be thinking. And when I come home, things are more peaceful.”
“At work conditions trigger you into thinking more. In your meditation sessions you are triggered less. Both experiences are witnessed by something not a part of those experiences. You are that.”
“So are you saying I don’t meditate?”
“As a person you are most definitely fiddling in your thought processes, imagining you have control over them after work and lose control of them during. You are always in control of your thoughts on a certain level. The idea that you could start thinking without initiating the process yourself would be horrifying.”
“When I stop the thought processes and become more present, what is happening there?”
“You might experience more presence or a deeper connection with life in the absence of conscious thought, which is witnessed. Imagining you have control of that process is identification with what is absent, which isn’t what you are anyway.”
“So I don’t have control of my thoughts, or I do?”
“If you suddenly found yourself standing up, walking across the room, and ramming your head into a wall while not initiating that process, my guess is that might be a frightening thing. Within a certain context, there is control, even if no volition.”
“And yet during the experience of meditation I consciously guide my way into silence. Explain that.”
“In the same way I can stand up and do 5 jumping jacks, you can suppress the tendency to think and then imagine you’re finding the silence which was already present. If you are that present silence, the untouchable quality in every moment, imagining you are something else isn’t a requisite, but an option you can certainly choose to express.
In place of consciousness or the witness we can just as easily say Intelligence is manifesting through every moment as appearances in consciousness. Coincidences and synchronicity are something that most of us have reference for, and it is through a referential point in consciousness that such reference is even possible. At the same time, the idea of being limited to a reference point or person coupled to the desire for that idea to be true tends to cause that suffering stuff that most folks have a reference for also.
It’s not that you actually are a person, and not that you ultimately aren't one either. Both ideas are true within certain contexts, and the dynamics of belief can move contextual truths in the direction of ultimate reality, and when that movement happens, a head butt square into the truth becomes inevitable, which is about the point in time when folks become willing to question their ideas of what they believe. When it comes to the truth game, all beliefs must go, because none of them are ultimately true.”
“So there is no point to meditation?”
“You meditate. Why do you do that?”
“To connect with Being.”
“Ok. So there seems to be a point.”
“But you seem to be saying it’s pointless.”
“I’m saying there is no one meditating and no silent observer to meditate toward. You are that which is prior to the creation of thinking and the idea that you are the creator of that process. Imagining you have to get out of that process or are in control of it is a misnomer, and meditation can be a dynamic expressed by that misnomer.”
“I assume you don’t meditate.”
“What I do is irrelevant to this discussion.”
“So you have meditated?”
“Yes, I have meditated.”
“What was that like for you?”
“Sometimes sitting in silence is a natural and beautiful thing. Sometimes it’s a mind state cultivation project with interesting woo woo experiences, that sorta thing.”
“Mind state cultivation project?”
“Mind states happen between points in time, like when you start meditation, and when you stop. The absence experienced during those points is a mind state. The mind isn’t actually absent, conscious thought falls away, and when it comes back into the equation it imagines it had an experience of its own absence.”
“Why does conscious thought fall away?”
“Sometimes because of split mind mechanics, like suppressing thinking when you clearly want to be thinking, and sometimes, you might just not feel like thinking.”
“Explain these split mind mechanics.”
“The feeling component to thinking drives the split mind. It isn’t when thought appears that it's interpreted as a problem, but the feeling that shouldn’t happen which drives the process. When thinking causes stress, you imagine you don’t want to be doing it. When thinking about riding the giraffe in your backyard, there is no problem with it. You imagine you have to control the former process while allowing the other to take place. I’m saying that as a mind you initiate both processes and literally stress yourself out because you are mechanically oriented to do that, and not because you’re doing it while not wanting to.”
“Why would anyone want stress?”
“I’m not saying anyone wants stress, I’m saying the mind is mechanically oriented to create the experience of stress in the presence of other factors, a build up of emotions, a difficult day, whatever. You are not the mind, while meditation often further embeds the idea that you are, even under the guise of becoming something that isn’t a mind. Often, but not always.”
“So how is and isn't there relative control of thought?”
“Thought is created locally according to the conditions of experience. While the mind never loses control over its thought processes, it doesn’t ultimately have a choice over them either. As an extreme example, if I throw you in prison, lock the cell, hang the key on the other end of the room and tell you I’m never coming back, you will likely find yourself coming up with a scheme to reach the key to find your way out. You didn’t actually choose to create the scheme, the conditions you found yourself in did that for you.”