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Post by relinquish on Dec 7, 2013 23:00:07 GMT -5
Well....'ere I go again.... ....sorry.... Existence itself can have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration. The presence of such an edge is a fundamental impossibility, as beyond it would necessarily exist an unencompassed 'state' of 'Non-Existence'. The very presence of such a state would forever ensure that its own necessary criteria of 'absolute absence' could NEVER be met, and so, is a state of absolute incoherence, in infinite violation of its own definition. As such, Non-Existence remains eternally 'self-cancelled' as the fundamental contradiction that it is. 'It' does not exist, anywhere, ever. Existence itself, remaining as it does forever unencompassed and devoid of any actual limitation, is not a 'thing'. Therefore, Existence itself equals 'ZERO'. In truth, there isn't anything. Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' necessarily equals 'ONE'. Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the absolute causelessness that it is. As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' (infinite, ever-changeless emptiness) and 'the seen' (finite, ever-changing form). The 'movement' that is 'the seen' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos'. The 'stillness' that is 'the seer' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order'. 'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can; 'THIS' way. Ultimately, every'thing' is essentially an 'apparent part' of the forever effortless unfolding of this one illusory happening, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one infinite, eternal, self-aware presence that is 'ZERO'. This is what is most fundamentally 'going on', without another, forever and ever. Like I said....sorry....  |
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Post by enigma on Dec 8, 2013 0:07:32 GMT -5
Not sorry enough to restrain yourself from posting it. Hehe.
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Post by relinquish on Dec 8, 2013 1:48:22 GMT -5
Nah....not THAT sorry.
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Post by silence on Dec 8, 2013 2:04:33 GMT -5
Well....'ere I go again.... ....sorry.... Existence itself can have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration. The presence of such an edge is a fundamental impossibility, as beyond it would necessarily exist an unencompassed 'state' of 'Non-Existence'. The very presence of such a state would forever ensure that its own necessary criteria of 'absolute absence' could NEVER be met, and so, is a state of absolute incoherence, in infinite violation of its own definition. As such, Non-Existence remains eternally 'self-cancelled' as the fundamental contradiction that it is. 'It' does not exist, anywhere, ever. Existence itself, remaining as it does forever unencompassed and devoid of any actual limitation, is not a 'thing'. Therefore, Existence itself equals 'ZERO'. In truth, there isn't anything. Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' necessarily equals 'ONE'. Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the absolute causelessness that it is. As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' (infinite, ever-changeless emptiness) and 'the seen' (finite, ever-changing form). The 'movement' that is 'the seen' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos'. The 'stillness' that is 'the seer' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order'. 'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can; 'THIS' way. Ultimately, every'thing' is essentially an 'apparent part' of the forever effortless unfolding of this one illusory happening, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one infinite, eternal, self-aware presence that is 'ZERO'. This is what is most fundamentally 'going on', without another, forever and ever. Like I said....sorry.... What's with all the apologies? |
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Post by relinquish on Dec 8, 2013 3:39:42 GMT -5
Well....'ere I go again.... ....sorry.... Existence itself can have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration. The presence of such an edge is a fundamental impossibility, as beyond it would necessarily exist an unencompassed 'state' of 'Non-Existence'. The very presence of such a state would forever ensure that its own necessary criteria of 'absolute absence' could NEVER be met, and so, is a state of absolute incoherence, in infinite violation of its own definition. As such, Non-Existence remains eternally 'self-cancelled' as the fundamental contradiction that it is. 'It' does not exist, anywhere, ever. Existence itself, remaining as it does forever unencompassed and devoid of any actual limitation, is not a 'thing'. Therefore, Existence itself equals 'ZERO'. In truth, there isn't anything. Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' necessarily equals 'ONE'. Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the absolute causelessness that it is. As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' (infinite, ever-changeless emptiness) and 'the seen' (finite, ever-changing form). The 'movement' that is 'the seen' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos'. The 'stillness' that is 'the seer' is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order'. 'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can; 'THIS' way. Ultimately, every'thing' is essentially an 'apparent part' of the forever effortless unfolding of this one illusory happening, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one infinite, eternal, self-aware presence that is 'ZERO'. This is what is most fundamentally 'going on', without another, forever and ever. Like I said....sorry.... What's with all the apologies? Nah, just being silly. I'm not really sorry.  |
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Post by silence on Dec 8, 2013 12:40:35 GMT -5
What's with all the apologies? Nah, just being silly. I'm not really sorry. Okay, good. |
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Post by relinquish on Dec 8, 2013 15:27:17 GMT -5
Nah, just being silly. I'm not really sorry. Okay, good. And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? |
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Post by ouroboros on Dec 8, 2013 16:29:20 GMT -5
And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? There can be conditionally arising states of restraint, failure and sorrow as well as the arising of the imagining that a 'what' necessitates the arising of the aforementioned states. Regarding the latter, the unconscious belief in this fictitious entity is the cause of suffering. |
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Post by zendancer on Dec 8, 2013 16:36:31 GMT -5
And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL |
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Post by relinquish on Dec 8, 2013 17:18:22 GMT -5
And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL Don't worry ZD. I don't believe I am (totally) stuck there. Any more, anyway. Having said that, things along those lines may still come out of this mouth from time to time. All becomes unstuck in time.  |
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Post by enigma on Dec 8, 2013 19:14:34 GMT -5
And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL I'm considering filling the hole with water so that he can float out, but I'm not sure if he can swim. It could go horribly wrong. Hehe. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 19:58:36 GMT -5
And besides, what is here that could possibly restrain itself? Or fail to and be sorry about it? Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL The only trap here, is a someone who thinks there are real people that are trapped and can get un-trapped by choosing to attend to the actual...hehehe It's the cleverest trap ever, because nobody ever sees that the trap is themselves...  |
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Post by enigma on Dec 8, 2013 20:00:49 GMT -5
Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL Don't worry ZD. I don't believe I am (totally) stuck there. Any more, anyway. Having said that, things along those lines may still come out of this mouth from time to time. All becomes unstuck in time. But of course there's nothing to be stuck anywhere. Hehe. |
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Post by enigma on Dec 8, 2013 20:06:25 GMT -5
Careful. Don't fall into that trap. We already have one forum poster who's gotten stuck there, and nobody can pull him out. LOL The only trap here, is a someone who thinks there are real people that are trapped and can get un-trapped by choosing to attend to the actual...hehehe It's the cleverest trap ever, because nobody ever sees that the trap is themselves... By the way, can you swim?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 20:07:25 GMT -5
The only trap here, is a someone who thinks there are real people that are trapped and can get un-trapped by choosing to attend to the actual...hehehe It's the cleverest trap ever, because nobody ever sees that the trap is themselves... By the way, can you swim? He looks like a pretty good surfer to me. |
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