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Post by enigma on Dec 7, 2013 20:14:00 GMT -5
Opinions are like _____________. ... well, whatever you were referring to ... everyone's got one of 'em! Noses?
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Post by enigma on Dec 7, 2013 20:22:57 GMT -5
Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It will not lead you astray. -Rumi I usually get a stomach ache and an empty box of cookies. Hehe. I usually end up with unpaid bills.
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Post by enigma on Dec 7, 2013 20:26:27 GMT -5
Definitely questionable and IMO worth questioning. Don't know about illogical. Logic is a funny thing. Everyone has the capability to form their own system of logic to the effect where they can justify and perceive just about anything to make sense. This was amazingly obvious watching schizophrenics who could form complex explanations to make their delusions fit perfectly into 'flawless logic'. Yes, I've been watching something similar happen with the logicians (not to be confused with magicians) here on the forum. Often, it seems like the logic label is just applied to justify some bizarre train of thought and series of conclusions.
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Post by lolly on Dec 7, 2013 20:44:51 GMT -5
Logic is a funny thing. Everyone has the capability to form their own system of logic to the effect where they can justify and perceive just about anything to make sense. This was amazingly obvious watching schizophrenics who could form complex explanations to make their delusions fit perfectly into 'flawless logic'. Yes, I've been watching something similar happen with the logicians (not to be confused with magicians) here on the forum. Often, it seems like the logic label is just applied to justify some bizarre train of thought and series of conclusions. Labels labels, like 'magicians' and 'logicians'...
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Post by silence on Dec 8, 2013 2:15:17 GMT -5
Logic is a funny thing. Everyone has the capability to form their own system of logic to the effect where they can justify and perceive just about anything to make sense. This was amazingly obvious watching schizophrenics who could form complex explanations to make their delusions fit perfectly into 'flawless logic'. Yes, I've been watching something similar happen with the logicians (not to be confused with magicians) here on the forum. Often, it seems like the logic label is just applied to justify some bizarre train of thought and series of conclusions. This place seems to be a homing beacon for logicians all over the internet.
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Post by lolly on Dec 8, 2013 4:50:43 GMT -5
Did someone say Bacon? Oh... beacon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 4:54:41 GMT -5
Did someone say Bacon? Oh... beacon. There's a difference?
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Post by lolly on Dec 8, 2013 5:33:48 GMT -5
At the moment, logic is being made into something socially unacceptable through the repeated 'labeling'... it's like 'minding', 'TMT', 'giraffes' and 'straw men'... but this one, 'logicician', probably won't catch on, and thusly fail as a power brokering strategy. 'Magician': Not catchy enough, it wont be picked up by the masses, so the conceptual meaning won't become a social norm.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 5:45:22 GMT -5
At the moment, logic is being made into something socially unacceptable through the repeated 'labeling'... it's like 'minding', 'TMT', 'giraffes' and 'straw men'... but this one, 'logicician', probably won't catch on, and thusly fail as a power brokering strategy. 'Magician': Not catchy enough, it wont be picked up by the masses, so the conceptual meaning won't become a social norm. This is well put, it is part of the linguistic discoveries that for me, show the minds workings.
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Post by laughter on Dec 8, 2013 6:04:23 GMT -5
At the moment, logic is being made into something socially unacceptable through the repeated 'labeling'... it's like 'minding', 'TMT', 'giraffes' and 'straw men'... but this one, 'logicician', probably won't catch on, and thusly fail as a power brokering strategy. 'Magician': Not catchy enough, it wont be picked up by the masses, so the conceptual meaning won't become a social norm. IF the beacon of bacon were shone where the sun ain't never been THEN and only then on a wink one could of words depend
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 6:19:48 GMT -5
IF bacon were sensed with intellect Not a whiff would we detect But when detected with the nose That bacon beacon way, it shows.
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Post by laughter on Dec 8, 2013 6:41:30 GMT -5
the nose it knows where the mind goes when the thinker is lost in herself
of which eye to use to keep sight of the lose no name can we find on the shelf
nary a care of what one might share conditioned unlimited loot when one trys to grab rather than drab to me they just look sort of cute!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 6:53:58 GMT -5
Oh laughter, it was simple fun... not a proposition for a new way of smelling life.
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Post by laughter on Dec 8, 2013 7:04:39 GMT -5
Well, this might not seem complicated to us given our interest in the topic, but if you set the familiarity incumbent with that interest aside and look at it with fresh eyes, seems to me that, objectively speaking, it's rather complicated: ... but it cuts through to the idea of trying to not-know as something that's clearly futile.It's the notion of trying to become what you already are or trying to accomplish what is already the case that has to be seen for what it is. Which brings us back to the topic of realization. "there's no way to try?? it's hopeless! it's hopeless! I don't like that!" Relax, let it be, and let the question about what does the letting take care of itself.
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Post by laughter on Dec 8, 2013 7:07:33 GMT -5
Oh laughter, it was simple fun... not a proposition for a new way of smelling life. a proposition in a poem?? snuck there by some garden gnome?? A tender of the weeds of mind The gardener reaps the crop of time
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