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Nov 16, 2013 20:35:58 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 16, 2013 20:35:58 GMT -5
my partner shared this from Ramana Marharshi's web site, soon after I shared a dream with her, as she thought it would help consolidate my ideas that I was freely sharing with her. Ideas just keep comming after Great-Dreams. "15th June, 1935 A young man had read Paul Brunton's two books. "The Buddhists say that "I" is unreal, whereas Paul Brunton in the "Secret Path " tells us to get over the "I"-thought and reach the state of "I". Which is true ?" Sri Bhagavan: There are supposed to be two "I"s ; the one, is lower and unreal, of which all are aware ; and the other, the higher and the Real, which is to be realised. You are not aware of yourself while asleep, you are aware in wakefulness; waking, you say that you were asleep; you did not know it in the deep sleep state. So then, the idea of diversity has arisen along with the body-consciousness; this body-consciousness arose at some particular moment; it has origin and end. What originates must be something. What is that something ? It is the "I"-consciousness. Who am I ? Whence am I ? On finding the source, you realise the state of Absolute Consciousness. “Who is this "I" ? It seems to be only a continuum of sense-impressions. The Buddhist idea seems to be so too.” Sri Bhagavan: The world is not external. The impressions cannot have an outer origin. Because the world can be cognised only by consciousness. The world does not say that it exists. It is your impression. Even so this impression is not consistent and not unbroken. In deep sleep, the world is not cognised ; and so it exists not for a sleeping man. Therefore, the world is the sequence of the ego. Find out the ego. The finding of its source is the final goal. “I believe that we should not inflict suffering on other lives. Should we then endure the mosquito bite and submit to it also ?” Sri Bhagavan: Every one is a suicide. The eternal, blissful, and natural state has been smothered by this life of ignorance. In this way the present life is due to the killing of the eternal, pristine Being. Is it not a case of suicide ? So then, every one is a suicide. Why worry about murders and killing."
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Nov 16, 2013 22:15:54 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 16, 2013 22:15:54 GMT -5
We overlook dreams untill we notice their awakening power. Much has been written of dreams and dreaming but its so much more important to 'realise'from ones own dreams as then one then begins to accept primary education from within.(where insight be had) Sure, the muddled-mind unloads unresolved issues during sleep and we regain a cleaner slate from which to start again, after we wake-up in the morning... but there are many types of dreams an I aint gonna go there, unless questioned.
The main thing, is that there are 'dreams' that can be worked-upon by our evolving egos, that which might have been attracted by the concept of enlightenment.(carrots dangling) If you are participating in your own-salvation, this thread is for you and me!
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Nov 18, 2013 13:15:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 13:15:16 GMT -5
We overlook dreams untill we notice their awakening power. Much has been written of dreams and dreaming but its so much more important to 'realise'from ones own dreams as then one then begins to accept primary education from within.(where insight be had) Sure, the muddled-mind unloads unresolved issues during sleep and we regain a cleaner slate from which to start again, after we wake-up in the morning... but there are many types of dreams an I aint gonna go there, unless questioned. The main thing, is that there are 'dreams' that can be worked-upon by our evolving egos, that which might have been attracted by the concept of enlightenment.(carrots dangling) If you are participating in your own-salvation, this thread is for you and me! Wouldn't it be weird if there wasn't someone doing anything?!
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Nov 18, 2013 19:29:43 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 18, 2013 19:29:43 GMT -5
We overlook dreams untill we notice their awakening power. Much has been written of dreams and dreaming but its so much more important to 'realise'from ones own dreams as then one then begins to accept primary education from within.(where insight be had) Sure, the muddled-mind unloads unresolved issues during sleep and we regain a cleaner slate from which to start again, after we wake-up in the morning... but there are many types of dreams an I aint gonna go there, unless questioned. The main thing, is that there are 'dreams' that can be worked-upon by our evolving egos, that which might have been attracted by the concept of enlightenment.(carrots dangling) If you are participating in your own-salvation, this thread is for you and me! Wouldn't it be weird if there wasn't someone doing anything?! sure, imagine two or more people comming together and doing nothing...what a crack-up! Have you withdrawn from creating in this world we share? I'm keen to know what you (currently)do 'put yourself into' like. Cant post much today... have psychedelic-migraines closing-out the monitor/keyboard making the world as we know-it, dissappear. Back with my sence of sight later.
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Nov 18, 2013 19:51:46 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 19:51:46 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be weird if there wasn't someone doing anything?! sure, imagine two or more people comming together and doing nothing...what a crack-up! Have you withdrawn from creating in this world we share? I'm keen to know what you (currently)do'put yourself into' like. Cant post much today... have psychedelic-migraines closing-out the monitor/keyboard making the world as we know-it, dissappear. Back with my sence of sight later. There isn't someone here that creates in this world we share... There is just Liberation doing it's thang and the illusion of individuals taking credit for it... I'm currently not doing anything... But rather I'm being done... "I will be done on earth as it is in heaven"...
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Nov 19, 2013 1:36:18 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 19, 2013 1:36:18 GMT -5
sure, imagine two or more people comming together and doing nothing...what a crack-up! Have you withdrawn from creating in this world we share? I'm keen to know what you (currently)do'put yourself into' like. Cant post much today... have psychedelic-migraines closing-out the monitor/keyboard making the world as we know-it, dissappear. Back with my sence of sight later. There isn't someone here that creates in this world we share... There is just Liberation doing it's thang and the illusion of individuals taking credit for it... I'm currently not doing anything... But rather I'm being done... "I will be done on earth as it is in heaven"... doing-time. choice to not create is ok! Yesterday I spoke with an old bloke in his eigthties, he dosnt do-anything any longer, he's already in heaven. He used to help un-do people, now that he is retired he too watches the world go round. In my doing nothing I have watched a story writing itself. It could be said I was writing-it legally and be placed in prison... heritec they would say and then put me under guard.
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Nov 19, 2013 10:46:17 GMT -5
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There isn't someone here that creates in this world we share... There is just Liberation doing it's thang and the illusion of individuals taking credit for it... I'm currently not doing anything... But rather I'm being done... "I will be done on earth as it is in heaven"... doing-time. choice to not create is ok! Yesterday I spoke with an old bloke in his eigthties, he dosnt do-anything any longer, he's already in heaven. He used to help un-do people, now that he is retired he too watches the world go round. In my doing nothing I have watched a story writing itself. It could be said I was writing-it legally and be placed in prison... heritec they would say and then put me under guard. Choosing NOT to create is still creating... Doing NOTHING is still doing... Whatever is happening, it isn't happening to a you that you think is real. Its Being that's writing the story. It's Freedom pretending to be a person looking for Freedom...
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Nov 19, 2013 14:30:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 14:30:36 GMT -5
My beliefs about dreams are they help keep our physiology balanced. The ones that are important will be remembered. Not important for enlightenment. Enlightened people don't dream because they have no unprocessed unconscious material to work on. Can be useful in early spiritual growth to become more conscious by making unconscious important. There is no unconscious? There are no 'people' that are or become enlightened... When the illusion of a seeker drops there isn't a person left who finds enlightenment... There is just What's Happening... It's ridiculously too simple for the mind to grasp...lol
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Nov 19, 2013 18:53:47 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 19, 2013 18:53:47 GMT -5
doing-time. choice to not create is ok! Yesterday I spoke with an old bloke in his eigthties, he dosnt do-anything any longer, he's already in heaven. He used to help un-do people, now that he is retired he too watches the world go round. In my doing nothing I have watched a story writing itself. It could be said I was writing-it legally and be placed in prison... heritec they would say and then put me under guard. Choosing NOT to create is still creating... Doing NOTHING is still doing... ALLOWING EVIL TO FLOURISH IN FRONT OF YOU? Whatever is happening, it isn't happening to a you that you think is real... UNDERSTAND NON-ATTACHMENT TO IDEAS OF SELF-IMPORTANCE. Its Being that's writing the story... YES, THATS CERTAINLY OCCURING. It's Freedom pretending to be a person looking for Freedom... ... MORE ON YOUR FREEDOM...please.
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Nov 19, 2013 19:44:43 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 19:44:43 GMT -5
Choosing NOT to create is still creating... Doing NOTHING is still doing... ALLOWING EVIL TO FLOURISH IN FRONT OF YOU? Whatever is happening, it isn't happening to a you that you think is real... UNDERSTAND NON-ATTACHMENT TO IDEAS OF SELF-IMPORTANCE. Its Being that's writing the story... YES, THATS CERTAINLY OCCURING. It's Freedom pretending to be a person looking for Freedom... ... MORE ON YOUR FREEDOM...please. It's not my Freedom...nobody owns freedom...it is Liberation. As such, Freedom can manifest as a person thinking that it is a prisoner and not freedom... Of course that person is an illusion... When that illusion vanishes, what remains is Freedom... But there isn't a person left around to enjoy it...
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Nov 19, 2013 21:04:17 GMT -5
Post by acewall on Nov 19, 2013 21:04:17 GMT -5
... MORE ON YOUR FREEDOM...please. It's not my Freedom...nobody owns freedom...it is Liberation. As such, Freedom can manifest as a person thinking that it is a prisoner and not freedom... Of course that person is an illusion... When that illusion vanishes, what remains is Freedom... But there isn't a person left around to enjoy it... gottcha, more clearer now. Sometimes more is betta. Was sharing with my 16yo son last night about goals we have as children, about to enter the worlds work-force, after sch, after uni. When I was at youth, I saw myself as liberator and wanted to work in that direction BUT was forced to go where I was told by powers outside myself. Today, I am back at it, after a whole lifetime of submergence, only comming up for air like a firking~whale then diving back beneath the surface. Yes, Freedom, that which was present when our bodies were born.
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