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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 9:31:39 GMT -5
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
more perfect. lol
if only we added this, or, if only we did away with that ... if only
the nirvana fallacy, the ever moving goal posts of happiness
or perhaps what the Buddhist call dukkha
A basic unsatisfactoriness pervading all forms of existence, due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance. On this level, the term indicates a lack of satisfaction, a sense that things never measure up to our expectations or standards.
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Post by laughter on Oct 8, 2013 10:21:18 GMT -5
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.more perfect. lol if only we added this, or, if only we did away with that ... if onlythe nirvana fallacy, the ever moving goal posts of happiness or perhaps what the Buddhist call dukkha A basic unsatisfactoriness pervading all forms of existence, due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance. On this level, the term indicates a lack of satisfaction, a sense that things never measure up to our expectations or standards. Maybe that's why the fundamental right is for the pursuit of happiness! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 10:32:34 GMT -5
A basic unsatisfactoriness pervading all forms of existence, due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance.
This anxiety about change, continual birth and death, is a cornerstone of all this nondual hoopla too. I'm not sold on it. Why do we accept this notion that what is real is only what does not change? |
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Post by silver on Oct 8, 2013 10:36:54 GMT -5
[/i]We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. more perfect. lol if only we added this, or, if only we did away with that ... if only the nirvana fallacy, the ever moving goal posts of happiness or perhaps what the Buddhist call dukkha A basic unsatisfactoriness pervading all forms of existence, due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance. On this level, the term indicates a lack of satisfaction, a sense that things never measure up to our expectations or standards. Last Edit: 10 minutes ago by farmer: sorry silver, I musta been in the process of editing when you liked it, hehe .. am reconsidering my habit of "one liners" ;-) [/quote] Just wow ~ the 2 poems I posted on the unmod side a couple moments ago seem to fit in with what's going on over here, or am I mistaken? *shrug* Maybe I'm just easily amazed. I have no idea how to fix this - *grumble grumble* |
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Post by laughter on Oct 8, 2013 10:41:13 GMT -5
Just wow ~ the 2 poems I posted on the unmod side a couple moments ago seem to fit in with what's going on over here, or am I mistaken? *shrug* Maybe I'm just easily amazed. I have no idea how to fix this - *grumble grumble* fix what?  everything's perfect just as it is! |
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 8, 2013 10:43:46 GMT -5
Greetings.. Just wow ~ the 2 poems I posted on the unmod side a couple moments ago seem to fit in with what's going on over here, or am I mistaken? *shrug* Maybe I'm just easily amazed. I have no idea how to fix this - *grumble grumble* fix what? everything's perfect just as it is! Great!! then there will be no need to moderate anything, job well done! Be well.. |
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Post by laughter on Oct 8, 2013 10:45:12 GMT -5
Greetings.. fix what? everything's perfect just as it is! Great!! then there will be no need to moderate anything, job well done! Be well.. (-- imagines the deafening (one handed) applause ... --) (** bows deeply in three directions **) Thanks! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 11:16:31 GMT -5
A basic unsatisfactoriness pervading all forms of existence, due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance.
This anxiety about change, continual birth and death, is a cornerstone of all this nondual hoopla too. I'm not sold on it. Why do we accept this notion that what is real is only what does not change?that's a great question max. I wouldn't be the one to ask though. but does the truth ever change? |
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Post by silver on Oct 8, 2013 11:17:42 GMT -5
Of course it doesn't, farmer - there is no truth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 11:19:08 GMT -5
Of course it doesn't, farmer - there is no truth. no truth? that makes no sense to me. I think truth is all there is. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 11:19:42 GMT -5
This anxiety about change, continual birth and death, is a cornerstone of all this nondual hoopla too. I'm not sold on it. Why do we accept this notion that what is real is only what does not change?that's a great question max. I wouldn't be the one to ask though. but does the truth ever change? Exactly. The Truth is defined as that which does not change. Why do we accept that definition? Etymologically, it's related to faithfulness. Remaining unchanged despite the winds of change. Truth means no change. Everything changes but the Truth. If, as Silver conjectures, there is no Truth, then it simply is the case that Everything Changes. But that would be true. Well maybe it changes every once in a while?? haha um well But still it's very abstract, this concept of Truth. |
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Post by silver on Oct 8, 2013 11:22:32 GMT -5
Of course it doesn't, farmer - there is no truth. no truth? that makes no sense to me. I think truth is all there is. hmm...first, I have to see what thread I'm in - and am I gonna say anything that goes against new rules or guidelines. Freud's ego-bizness. a child's make-believe. What then is your definition of truth? |
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 8, 2013 11:43:33 GMT -5
Greetings.. Of course it doesn't, farmer - there is no truth. no truth? that makes no sense to me. I think truth is all there is. 'Truth' is an ideology, a belief about something that doesn't change.. history is littered with dead 'truths', ideas once believed to be 'truth' and deceased when the belief realized that the idea was not accurate.. the search for 'truth' is the fear of liberation, where the absence of 'truth' leaves nothing to attach to.. Be well.. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 11:53:27 GMT -5
no truth? that makes no sense to me. I think truth is all there is. hmm...first, I have to see what thread I'm in - and am I gonna say anything that goes against new rules or guidelines. Freud's ego-bizness. a child's make-believe. What then is your definition of truth? It's Barney's thread, so no worries on that front I assume um, definition of truth huh? how 'bout 'that which is true'? hehe when you tell somebody something, you know if you're telling the truth or a lie don't you? lies are hard to keep track of, but the truth remains the same no matter how much time passes |
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Post by silver on Oct 8, 2013 11:57:04 GMT -5
hmm...first, I have to see what thread I'm in - and am I gonna say anything that goes against new rules or guidelines. Freud's ego-bizness. a child's make-believe. What then is your definition of truth? It's Barney's thread, so no worries on that front I assume um, definition of truth huh? how 'bout 'that which is true'? hehe when you tell somebody something, you know if you're telling the truth or a lie don't you? lies are hard to keep track of, but the truth remains the same no matter how much time passes I think the subject of 'truth' is a lot more complicated than that - unless you want to talk about one 'kind' of truth over another. Sometimes we think something is true and we find out later, it isnt or that isn't the whole story / big picture, if you will... Truth as in telling the truth, is usually based on what we want it to be. And then we've got 'scientific' truths or facts - it's never ever quite the whole enchilada. |
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