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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:59:53 GMT -5
I think we are onto it.Something we have forgotten in us gets triggered. Its like what The Masters says, 'You have come for this but you have forgotten'. Which master? pluckedifIKnow. Us half baked-men, having realised conciousness, use awareness of their mind to avoid relationship, between ourselves an also Women. Men are afraid to wholly relate as they're only half here, half whole. Where's the Holyness in that? There's something to that, but we can't justify a bias against men. Women are equally 'unwhole' in different ways. It's this desire to become whole that attracts one gender to the other to attempt to form a partnership or union, and the 'Holiness' is in that union, so there's no reason to be cynical about it. your choice of the word, gives you away.(cynical)In Zen, the fastest route to enlightenment is in relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:01:45 GMT -5
but you like it? What, self assertion? of course... when your Non-self exherts your self you realise that your gameplay is destroyed, an you have to relate directly, Heart to heart.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:04:07 GMT -5
self denyal in a Non-self forum is a bit weird isnt it? Denial of the self on a 'non-self forum' seems to make perfect sense. Self assertion is what seems weird. We never actually experience a self...so the denial of a self that we never actually experience is weird, very weird...
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 23:10:02 GMT -5
There's something to that, but we can't justify a bias against men. Women are equally 'unwhole' in different ways. It's this desire to become whole that attracts one gender to the other to attempt to form a partnership or union, and the 'Holiness' is in that union, so there's no reason to be cynical about it. your choice of the word, gives you away.(cynical)In Zen, the fastest route to enlightenment is in relationship. Dude, this is cynical: Us half baked-men, having realised conciousness, use awareness of their mind to avoid relationship,between ourselves an also Women. Men are afraid to wholly relate as they're only half here, half whole. Where's the Holyness in that?and your choice of words gives away your bias against men, which you likely see as a noble effort to balance a wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right. That balance is struck only in identifying the truth.
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 23:12:09 GMT -5
of course... when your Non-self exherts your self you realise that your gameplay is destroyed, an you have to relate directly, Heart to heart. When your non-self exerts your self?.....Okay, have fun wit dat.
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Post by silver on Aug 26, 2013 23:13:14 GMT -5
your choice of the word, gives you away.(cynical)In Zen, the fastest route to enlightenment is in relationship. Dude, this is cynical: Us half baked-men, having realised conciousness, use awareness of their mind to avoid relationship,between ourselves an also Women. Men are afraid to wholly relate as they're only half here, half whole. Where's the Holyness in that?and your choice of words gives away your bias against men, which you likely see as a noble effort to balance a wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right. That balance is struck only in identifying the truth.What truth?
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 23:19:56 GMT -5
Denial of the self on a 'non-self forum' seems to make perfect sense. Self assertion is what seems weird. We never actually experience a self...so the denial of a self that we never actually experience is weird, very weird... Everybody has had the experience of a self. It's not necessary for it to be based on something true in order for the experience to happen. When that illusion is seen through, it's perfectly natural to deny the actuality of that illusion.
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 23:22:15 GMT -5
Dude, this is cynical: Us half baked-men, having realised conciousness, use awareness of their mind to avoid relationship,between ourselves an also Women. Men are afraid to wholly relate as they're only half here, half whole. Where's the Holyness in that?and your choice of words gives away your bias against men, which you likely see as a noble effort to balance a wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right. That balance is struck only in identifying the truth.What truth? I just told you: "Women are equally 'unwhole' in different ways. It's this desire to become whole that attracts one gender to the other to attempt to form a partnership or union, and the 'Holiness' is in that union"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:27:19 GMT -5
Denial of the self on a 'non-self forum' seems to make perfect sense. Self assertion is what seems weird. We never actually experience a self...so the denial of a self that we never actually experience is weird, very weird... how many of these 'We' selfs that don't exist get caught in the dogma of a Non-self? Does it serve your Team of Non-selves well?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:30:33 GMT -5
of course... when your Non-self exherts your self you realise that your gameplay is destroyed, an you have to relate directly, Heart to heart. When your non-self exerts your self?.....Okay, have fun wit dat. are you not having fun? All the while I come here to see you I am in Joy! Where is JOY housed in your appreciation of things?
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Post by silver on Aug 26, 2013 23:35:39 GMT -5
I just told you: "Women are equally 'unwhole' in different ways. It's this desire to become whole that attracts one gender to the other to attempt to form a partnership or union, and the 'Holiness' is in that union" You mean that each of us, male or female, are not whole, unto ourselves?
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Post by enigma on Aug 27, 2013 1:09:48 GMT -5
When your non-self exerts your self?.....Okay, have fun wit dat. are you not having fun? All the while I come here to see you I am in Joy! Where is JOY housed in your appreciation of things? Didn't your mom tell you? It's all fun and games til somebody gets an 'I' poked out.
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Post by enigma on Aug 27, 2013 1:30:36 GMT -5
I just told you: "Women are equally 'unwhole' in different ways. It's this desire to become whole that attracts one gender to the other to attempt to form a partnership or union, and the 'Holiness' is in that union" You mean that each of us, male or female, are not whole, unto ourselves? That's right. The person is literally an expression of fragmentation. That's not meant to put anybody down, it's just built into the nature of experiencing itself. Experience is, by definition, the experience of this and not that. On another level, if you knew yourself to be whole and complete, you would never move, never change, never improve or desire or accomplish or be motivated as there would be nothing to add and nothing to become. Life is in constant movement, constant improvement, continuous becoming.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 1:33:10 GMT -5
are you not having fun? All the while I come here to see you I am in Joy! Where is JOY housed in your appreciation of things? Didn't your mom tell you? It's all fun and games til somebody gets an 'I' poked out. getting one or two eyes out one reverts back to the third eye?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 1:37:25 GMT -5
You mean that each of us, male or female, are not whole, unto ourselves? That's right. The person is literally an expression of fragmentation. That's not meant to put anybody down, it's just built into the nature of experiencing itself. Experience is, by definition, the experience of this and not that. On another level, if you knew yourself to be whole and complete, you would never move, never change, never improve or desire or accomplish or be motivated as there would be nothing to add and nothing to become. Life is in constant movement, constant improvement, continuous becoming. a fragmatised person can heal themself with-in relationship. Relationships, especially love relationships can be enlightening for both parties. Sure, its not about putting one up or down...its about having a good sharing. On another level... the only thing constant is change. One gotta change to remain the same.
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