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Post by serpentqueen on Aug 20, 2013 10:58:22 GMT -5
Well it certainly cuts to the quick about getting the ego to rear it's head in the matter. It's pretty clear to me who's ego reared its head, top. The thread starter. No big surprise you weighed in on it, either. Slow day on facebook? Have you considered that I may also have mucho respect for ZD, which is why I started a new thread? I did not want to see his thread devolve into a pissing match, like so many threads around here seem to do. Calling someone a "malignant little bastard" is sure to start a flame war, no?
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Post by zendancer on Aug 20, 2013 11:17:56 GMT -5
Ironically, I had just been thinking about suggesting a disparagement thread. I was going to title it "The Foodfight Thread," and suggest that anyone who has a beef with someone's understanding, postings, level of attainment, clarity, motivation, etc. could go there and sling food (mud) to their heart's content. If we had such a thread, then some of us could ignore that thread completely, and enjoy following a single line of investigation, commentary, etc. without having to wade through endless personal attacks.
One of the reasons I was happy to see an unmoderated thread show up was for the value of winnowing out a lot of posts that I knew wouldn't interest me. A foodfight thread would be fantastic if everyone would agree to it. Of course, I realize that there might have to be a separate "Foodfight with Enigma" thread because he attracts such vitriolic antipathy. Ha ha.
If everyone could agree on such a thread, then the moderator, poor guy, would have the task of transferring any personal attacks that showed up in all of the other threads. Seriously, as it is now, I sometimes have to wade through endless pages of boring back-and-forth bickering while searching for a post I saw (but didn't have time to respond to) that deserves a serious response. This is certainly something that I would vote for if enough forum members expressed an interest in it.
FWIW I have great respect for everyone who posts on this forum. I am constantly astonished at the brilliant writing that often appears here, and for the range of insights that people have. Some people are so clear or so honest that I always read their posts, but all posts that stay on topic are usually interesting. It's the personal jabs that I find regrettable, and the one or two times that I've done that myself, have left me afterwards thinking, "You blithering idiot; there must have been a more skillful way of making that point without attacking someone's understanding or character." The most recent occasion where I did that was on the Strange Woo thread, and Figless rightfully challenged what I had done. I often do stupid things, but if there had been a foodfight thread available at that time, it would probably have prevented a stupid thought from appearing anywhere except in my head.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 11:19:50 GMT -5
It's pretty clear to me who's ego reared its head, top. The thread starter. No big surprise you weighed in on it, either. Slow day on facebook? Have you considered that I may also have mucho respect for ZD, which is why I started a new thread? I did not want to see his thread devolve into a pissing match, like so many threads around here seem to do. Calling someone a "malignant little bastard" is sure to start a flame war, no? I watched you weigh in when Laughter was having his say with me, too. So, I'm not a bit surprised you're taking this tack with me. If you don't like what I posted regarding reefs, tough sh!t. I really don't have much use for what he's been posting here over the course of the last few years. Why don't you start a thread about that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 11:21:21 GMT -5
Ironically, I had just been thinking about suggesting a disparagement thread. I was going to title it "The Foodfight Thread," and suggest that anyone who has a beef with someone's understanding, postings, level of attainment, clarity, motivation, etc. could go there and sling food (mud) to their heart's content. If we had such a thread, then some of us could ignore that thread completely, and enjoy following a single line of investigation, commentary, etc. without having to wade through endless personal attacks. One of the reasons I was happy to see an unmoderated thread show up was for the value of winnowing out a lot of posts that I knew wouldn't interest me. A foodfight thread would be fantastic if everyone would agree to it. Of course, I realize that there might have to be a separate "Foodfight with Enigma" thread because he attracts such vitriolic antipathy. Ha ha. If everyone could agree on such a thread, then the moderator, poor guy, would have the task of transferring any personal attacks that showed up in all of the other threads. Seriously, as it is now, I sometimes have to wade through endless pages of boring back-and-forth bickering while searching for a post I saw (but didn't have time to respond to) that deserves a serious response. This is certainly something that I would vote for if enough forum members expressed an interest in it. I like the idea but the moderation would be heavy, methinks. It'd be a constant task. If there's someone that wants to sign up for that work, I'd endorse them.
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Post by serpentqueen on Aug 20, 2013 11:25:48 GMT -5
Ironically, I had just been thinking about suggesting a disparagement thread. I was going to title it "The Foodfight Thread," and suggest that anyone who has a beef with someone's understanding, postings, level of attainment, clarity, motivation, etc. could go there and sling food (mud) to their heart's content. If we had such a thread, then some of us could ignore that thread completely, and enjoy following a single line of investigation, commentary, etc. without having to wade through endless personal attacks. One of the reasons I was happy to see an unmoderated thread show up was for the value of winnowing out a lot of posts that I knew wouldn't interest me. A foodfight thread would be fantastic if everyone would agree to it. Of course, I realize that there might have to be a separate "Foodfight with Enigma" thread because he attracts such vitriolic antipathy. Ha ha. If everyone could agree on such a thread, then the moderator, poor guy, would have the task of transferring any personal attacks that showed up in all of the other threads. Seriously, as it is now, I sometimes have to wade through endless pages of boring back-and-forth bickering while searching for a post I saw (but didn't have time to respond to) that deserves a serious response. This is certainly something that I would vote for if enough forum members expressed an interest in it. I like the idea but the moderation would be heavy, methinks. It'd be a constant task. If there's someone that wants to sign up for that work, I'd endorse them. I suspect it'd only work if it was self-policing. I am happy to change the title of this thread again.
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Post by tzujanli on Aug 20, 2013 11:28:07 GMT -5
Greetings..
It's highly unlikely that that would have any lasting effect.. notice how the moderated section is now polluted with juvenile 'word-thoughts' from the intentions of the unmoderated section.. there's no actual moderation happening anymore, why would you believe that might change? and, wouldn't the decisions be fairly arbitrary?
Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 11:29:27 GMT -5
I like the idea but the moderation would be heavy, methinks. It'd be a constant task. If there's someone that wants to sign up for that work, I'd endorse them. I suspect it'd only work if it was self-policing. I am happy to change the title of this thread again. Why don't you change it to align with the actual intent behind it? You know, something like- I'm the only one who really knows what's going on here, so I'll decide who can say what, and where they can say it. Of course, you'd have to move each and everyone of reefs posts to that thread, and half of enigma's, otherwise you'll be seen as another charlatan.
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Post by serpentqueen on Aug 20, 2013 11:48:28 GMT -5
I suspect it'd only work if it was self-policing. I am happy to change the title of this thread again. Why don't you change it to align with the actual intent behind it? You know, something like- I'm the only one who really knows what's going on here, so I'll decide who can say what, and where they can say it. Of course, you'd have to move each and everyone of reefs posts to that thread, and half of enigma's, otherwise you'll be seen as another charlatan. You are the one with the need to see someone as true OR a charlatan. I don't make such distinctions. It seems like a waste of time... we are all just pretending, in the end it's ALL just a lie. But underneath the lie ... that's where I prefer to go... the baby, not the bathwater. And I know that every single poster here, every one of the 7 billion on this planet, has a proverbial baby somewhere underneath the bathwater.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 11:57:26 GMT -5
Why don't you change it to align with the actual intent behind it? You know, something like- I'm the only one who really knows what's going on here, so I'll decide who can say what, and where they can say it. Of course, you'd have to move each and everyone of reefs posts to that thread, and half of enigma's, otherwise you'll be seen as another charlatan. You are the one with the need to see someone as true OR a charlatan. I don't make such distinctions. It seems like a waste of time... we are all just pretending, in the end it's ALL just a lie. But underneath the lie ... that's where I prefer to go... the baby, not the bathwater. And I know that every single poster here, every one of the 7 billion on this planet, has a proverbial baby somewhere underneath the bathwater. yeah baby! That there's the baby at the heart of namaste.
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Post by topology on Aug 20, 2013 11:59:27 GMT -5
Why don't you change it to align with the actual intent behind it? You know, something like- I'm the only one who really knows what's going on here, so I'll decide who can say what, and where they can say it. Of course, you'd have to move each and everyone of reefs posts to that thread, and half of enigma's, otherwise you'll be seen as another charlatan. You are the one with the need to see someone as true OR a charlatan. I don't make such distinctions. It seems like a waste of time... we are all just pretending, in the end it's ALL just a lie. But underneath the lie ... that's where I prefer to go... the baby, not the bathwater. And I know that every single poster here, every one of the 7 billion on this planet, has a proverbial baby somewhere underneath the bathwater.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 11:59:31 GMT -5
Why don't you change it to align with the actual intent behind it? You know, something like- I'm the only one who really knows what's going on here, so I'll decide who can say what, and where they can say it. Of course, you'd have to move each and everyone of reefs posts to that thread, and half of enigma's, otherwise you'll be seen as another charlatan. You are the one with the need to see someone as true OR a charlatan. I don't make such distinctions. It seems like a waste of time... we are all just pretending, in the end it's ALL just a lie. But underneath the lie ... that's where I prefer to go... the baby, not the bathwater. And I know that every single poster here, every one of the 7 billion on this planet, has a proverbial baby somewhere underneath the bathwater. I'm the one with the need? LoL Seriously. Where was the insight for a thread like this over the course of the last two months? There was a ton of character assassination taking place onsite here on a daily basis by a core group of people, and there still is on a daily basis. And you want to make this about me? You're not seeing clearly.
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Post by silver on Aug 20, 2013 12:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by tzujanli on Aug 20, 2013 12:09:10 GMT -5
Greetings..
It's unfortunate that people are looking for better ways to 'assassinate character' than to have a civil discussion that sincerely explores existence..
Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 12:11:42 GMT -5
You are the one with the need to see someone as true OR a charlatan. I don't make such distinctions. It seems like a waste of time... we are all just pretending, in the end it's ALL just a lie. But underneath the lie ... that's where I prefer to go... the baby, not the bathwater. And I know that every single poster here, every one of the 7 billion on this planet, has a proverbial baby somewhere underneath the bathwater. I'm the one with the need? LoL Seriously. Where was the insight for a thread like this over the course of the last two months? There was a ton of character assassination taking place onsite here on a daily basis by a core group of people, and there still is on a daily basis. And you want to make this about me? You're not seeing clearly. Not that it matters, but I wouldn't take this thread personally. Foodfight is probably a better title. It's just a way of attempting to purify the beginning of the Q's Question thread by deflecting fraying subthemes. It's actually worked. But you raise a fair question regarding past fraying subthemes and the lack of similar deflection in those instances. But I don't think consistency is being claimed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 12:14:24 GMT -5
"And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you" I thought I would add this scripture.
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