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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 14:19:51 GMT -5
Hi all,
I work in computer software, and I feel like I'm undoing the effects of meditation or other "better" behavior (walking in nature, etc) when I sit down in front of a screen and "work". It would be awesome if I could meditate and write code at the the same time, but I have yet to get it. Maybe it is impossible. Have you had any luck with this, or something similar? Any tips? When I'm done working, I often feel physically tense, mentally drained and irritable. I'm not sure if it's the nature of work or something about the way the work is happening, which could change.
Robert
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 14:49:14 GMT -5
Hi all,I work in computer software, and I feel like I'm undoing the effects of meditation or other "better" behavior (walking in nature, etc) when I sit down in front of a screen and "work". It would be awesome if I could meditate and write code at the the same time, but I have yet to get it. Maybe it is impossible. Have you had any luck with this, or something similar? Any tips? When I'm done working, I often feel physically tense, mentally drained and irritable. I'm not sure if it's the nature of work or something about the way the work is happening, which could change. Robert I write software as well and I used to have the same problem. For me the key is not engaging in formal practice. Meditation goes on all day long. No timer needed, no special place needed. Notice how the mind continually says, "I must be somewhere else to meditate." Meditation is always here and now. The reason the question even arises is because you have a formal practice. Which is a desire. The mind stops producing desire-based thoughts when you stop indulging in desires. All desires are this way... coffee, beer, cigarettes, sex, and even special meditation or ATA practices. If you were to quit formal practices, you could meditate all day long, because it would no longer produce thoughts about wanting to do it somewhere else. |
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Post by topology on Aug 16, 2013 18:17:14 GMT -5
Hi all,I work in computer software, and I feel like I'm undoing the effects of meditation or other "better" behavior (walking in nature, etc) when I sit down in front of a screen and "work". It would be awesome if I could meditate and write code at the the same time, but I have yet to get it. Maybe it is impossible. Have you had any luck with this, or something similar? Any tips? When I'm done working, I often feel physically tense, mentally drained and irritable. I'm not sure if it's the nature of work or something about the way the work is happening, which could change. Robert Hi Robert, Software developer here as well. I like Seamless's response. I suspect that there are other tensions present besides the need to code or design software. Off all you had on your mind was creative production, there were not be the resistance or the drain you are experiencing. One of the things that happens when you start meditating is that you start giving the subconscious space to come to the surface and the body a rest from the normal mental tension. If you are trying to force yourself to work, the body and mid are going to start rebelling because now they know what respite feels like. If you are not gentle with yourself already, you're going to have to learn to become gentle with yourself. In order for me to focus on programming, I have to be mentally clear of any emotional stress or fears e concerns that are more important to me than working as a cog for money. When you sit down to work, ask internally what the resistance is to being completely present and focussed on your work is. What else is fighting for your attention? |
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Post by topology on Aug 16, 2013 18:28:08 GMT -5
I'm going to add a few more thoughts. You have to realize, it's not you doing the work. All you do is show up. You allow the problem and the process to arise in you, and in that space the solution comes forward out of nowhere. You are not in control of the process, you can only get in its way by trying to control it. The best you can do is keep the debris out of the way to allow it to happen unimpeded.
Like I said, though, once you start accessing the quiet space, the subconscious starts to bring stuff to the surface for you to chew on. This is going to sound hokie but give it some thought. If that is what is happening, stuff is coming up to consume your attention, literally ask the subconscious directly to not bring the stuff up during work and that you will make intentional time to sit with it and process with it outside of work time. And then keep that promise to process outside of work time. Remind yourself why you are working, what it's all for.
But also, once you open pandora's box, you might find yourself in the midst of many many life changes. Non-authentic motives lose their steam, and if you are working at your job for any inauthentic reason, you will have trouble staying motivated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 18:45:57 GMT -5
I'm going to add a few more thoughts. You have to realize, it's not you doing the work. All you do is show up. You allow the problem and the process to arise in you, and in that space the solution comes forward out of nowhere. You are not in control of the process, you can only get in its way by trying to control it. The best you can do is keep the debris out of the way to allow it to happen unimpeded. Like I said, though, once you start accessing the quiet space, the subconscious starts to bring stuff to the surface for you to chew on. This is going to sound hokie but give it some thought. If that is what is happening, stuff is coming up to consume your attention, literally ask the subconscious directly to not bring the stuff up during work and that you will make intentional time to sit with it and process with it outside of work time. And then keep that promise to process outside of work time. Remind yourself why you are working, what it's all for. But also, once you open pandora's box, you might find yourself in the midst of many many life changes. Non-authentic motives lose their steam, and if you are working at your job for any inauthentic reason, you will have trouble staying motivated. |
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Post by silence on Aug 16, 2013 19:36:29 GMT -5
Hi all,I work in computer software, and I feel like I'm undoing the effects of meditation or other "better" behavior (walking in nature, etc) when I sit down in front of a screen and "work". It would be awesome if I could meditate and write code at the the same time, but I have yet to get it. Maybe it is impossible. Have you had any luck with this, or something similar? Any tips? When I'm done working, I often feel physically tense, mentally drained and irritable. I'm not sure if it's the nature of work or something about the way the work is happening, which could change. Robert Stop trying to put two states of experience at odds with each other and you will either enjoy your work or you won't and you'll find something else to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 21:26:21 GMT -5
Thank you everyone. I'm going to re-read these responses a few times and try the suggestions, and watch how my work goes in coming days.
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Post by topology on Aug 16, 2013 22:42:07 GMT -5
Thank you everyone. I'm going to re-read these responses a few times and try the suggestions, and watch how my work goes in coming days. Goodluck.  . Looking forward to hearing your findings. |
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Post by Reefs on Aug 16, 2013 23:02:27 GMT -5
Hi all,I work in computer software, and I feel like I'm undoing the effects of meditation or other "better" behavior (walking in nature, etc) when I sit down in front of a screen and "work". It would be awesome if I could meditate and write code at the the same time, but I have yet to get it. Maybe it is impossible. Have you had any luck with this, or something similar? Any tips? When I'm done working, I often feel physically tense, mentally drained and irritable. I'm not sure if it's the nature of work or something about the way the work is happening, which could change. Robert Seems what you are looking for is flow experience. |
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Post by Reefs on Aug 16, 2013 23:15:36 GMT -5
Thank you everyone. I'm going to re-read these responses a few times and try the suggestions, and watch how my work goes in coming days. Meditation for software developers:  |
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