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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 10:08:43 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so.
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2013 11:13:56 GMT -5
Elaborate, yes. Beautifully so even. for me the significant part of consideration is to think that quantum waves precede time and space. that is to say that space is a wave structure as well as matter. space and time are a result of a medium that expands and contracts or vibrates. the same way music is created when strings are pulled or strum The alternative models interpreting the results of QM are ... alternative ... and science is a game of consensus. In the final analysis, the value of a model is its utility. The consensus interpretation of the double-slit experiment is of a non-physical component of reality. From there science ends and metaphysics, flights of fancy and even perhaps the nucleus for the formation of a new religion begins. Reality doesn't need a model and that which utilizes the model is not what I am. Any model just ... gets in the way.
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2013 11:14:29 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so. Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 11:17:26 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so. Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head? Not any old rocks, conscious ones...
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Post by justlikeyou on Aug 2, 2013 11:21:04 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so. Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head? That took a lot of gall...stones. They rattle too ya know!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 11:25:15 GMT -5
Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head? Let's give the little dog a big hand, folks....
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2013 12:21:12 GMT -5
Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head? Let's give the little dog a big hand, folks.... Eeeeeeeww! ... keep those sticky-busy hands to yourself please.
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2013 12:22:43 GMT -5
Is that why you rattle when you roll? Rocks in the head? Not any old rocks, conscious ones...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 12:36:07 GMT -5
Let's give the little dog a big hand, folks.... Eeeeeeeww! ... keep those sticky-busy hands to yourself please. Like a man in a hospital gown directing traffic...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 13:26:41 GMT -5
Eeeeeeeww! ... keep those sticky-busy hands to yourself please. Like a man in a hospital gown directing traffic... And just as concious as your rocks...
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Post by hybrid on Aug 2, 2013 18:28:05 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so. maybe it is the space in between rocks and atoms and molecules that is conscious and tells the rock to stay put. and hold all things together and whose presence has the rock its being.
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Post by hybrid on Aug 2, 2013 18:30:02 GMT -5
for me the significant part of consideration is to think that quantum waves precede time and space. that is to say that space is a wave structure as well as matter. space and time are a result of a medium that expands and contracts or vibrates. the same way music is created when strings are pulled or strum The alternative models interpreting the results of QM are ... alternative ... and science is a game of consensus. In the final analysis, the value of a model is its utility. The consensus interpretation of the double-slit experiment is of a non-physical component of reality. From there science ends and metaphysics, flights of fancy and even perhaps the nucleus for the formation of a new religion begins. Reality doesn't need a model and that which utilizes the model is not what I am. Any model just ... gets in the way. tell that to the taoist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 18:41:53 GMT -5
Rocks are a conscious aspect of consciousness. For instance, a stone mason places rocks in a foundation. If they weren't a conscious aspect of consciousness they would act all willy-nilly and go against the flow of energy and information being imparted to them by/through the mason. We cannot have rocks and stones acting this way. I said so. maybe it is the space in between rocks and atoms and molecules that is conscious and tells the rock to stay put. and hold all things together and whose presence has the rock its being. Could be. To be honest, I was kinda goofing off when I wrote it, but not really. I do have a reverence for rocks and large stones. It wasn't until fairly recently I learned my name in Celtic means- stone. Go figure.
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Post by hybrid on Aug 2, 2013 19:11:16 GMT -5
maybe it is the space in between rocks and atoms and molecules that is conscious and tells the rock to stay put. and hold all things together and whose presence has the rock its being. Could be. To be honest, I was kinda goofing off when I wrote it, but not really. I do have a reverence for rocks and large stones. It wasn't until fairly recently I learned my name in Celtic means- stone. Go figure. sometimes consciousness can shift out of its usual localized state (i.e. the seer located between your ears inside your head) and becomes non-local . so that when you look at it it is also looking at you. but we dont call it non-local. that's for particles. when consciousness has the same state we call it non-dual
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 19:25:56 GMT -5
Could be. To be honest, I was kinda goofing off when I wrote it, but not really. I do have a reverence for rocks and large stones. It wasn't until fairly recently I learned my name in Celtic means- stone. Go figure. sometimes consciousness can shift out of its usual localized state (i.e. the seer located between your ears inside your head) and becomes non-local . so that when you look at it it is also looking at you. but we dont call it non-local. that's for particles. when consciousness has the same state we call it non-dual I'm pretty comfortable with the non-local description. Non-dualists do have a pretty bad habit of breaking everything down into particles to understand it. But like Humpty-Dumpty, most of them can't quite get it all back together again after doing so. Hopefully you're the exception.
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