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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 0:10:05 GMT -5
Many many insights and realizations are coming lately, too many to list or keep up with here
Everything from the backward view that we have of sleep, dreams, and waking life, to the flows of energy and awareness and how they relate to meditaion and Samadhi
So many insights and realizations, thay seem to come like a dawning in the body and mind in that in between of being in Samadhi and back to mind centeredness.
But a realization on insights/realizations themselves just occurred.
For the same reason that woo woo experiences should not be clung to, realizations should not be pondered or understood, the "knowing" of a realization should be let go of just as woo woo experiences should be.
This is because realizations and insights are for doing, they are for action, not for knowing or pondering, realizations are there for a kind of body knowledge, not mind knowledge or wisdom, when a realization occurs, it is felt deeply in the body and the mind, the body knows what to do with the insights, the mind should not interfere of try to understand them or ponder them or make sense of them. When mind does this, it inhibits the action of the realization, and realizations are for action, for being, not for knowing.
Let go of all knowledge and understanding of your insights and realizations, let the body make use of them when and if they are of use. Don't cling to them, don't try to live by them, for the same reason that you don't cling to woo woo experiences, don't cling to realizations and insights.
Don't make any special note of your realizations and insights, even though they may temp you to do so just as woo woo experiences do.
Realizations are of no lesser or greater value than woo woo experiences
Don't ponder over them, don't cling to them
Realizations are for doing, not for knowing.
Don't develop or maintain attachments to woo woo experiences, regular experiences, or realizations and insights.
For the purposes of clarity,: We may all define insights or realizations as something different, but what I am talking anout here is that exoeridnce we all have had, where a realization occurs that leaves one with a feeling of spaciousness and openness in both the mind and body.....these types of realizations ahave a very powerful affect on us, that can create an attachment.
Don't let realization or insights become a sacred cow that your mind clings to and builds a belief system around that you can become absorbed in.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 26, 2013 2:12:32 GMT -5
What realizations (plural!) are you talking about, man? The only thing worth mentioning and the only thing mentioned since eons is self-realization (singular!). That's a one time event. Did you figure you have to self-realize yourself at least every 2 weeks or something?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 2:14:45 GMT -5
"a kind of body knowledge"...
this equates with integration.
The individual-mind is taking-up residence around its original center of gravity,
where it was formed soon after the human egg an sperm united.
Hold onto Nothing.
Zero
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 2:16:59 GMT -5
What realizations (plural!) are you talking about, man? The only thing worth mentioning and the only thing mentioned since eons is self-realization (singular!). That's a one time event. Did you figure you have to self-realize yourself at least every 2 weeks or something? here, we are looking at the dis-integration of ego, a shift in the concious location of ones mind an death of the known. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 2:19:33 GMT -5
"a kind of body knowledge"... this equates with integration. The individual-mind is taking-up residence around its original center of gravity, where it was formed soon after the human egg an sperm united. Hold onto Nothing. Zero :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 2:25:41 GMT -5
its like the end of the search, when one awakens to the fact its impossible
an they actualise surrender for the first time in their lives,
an feel great about dying gracefully,
without drama.
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Post by jazz on Jul 26, 2013 4:06:32 GMT -5
I just realized that there's no one here to want anything except what's happening. This is what's happening so this must be what I want to be happening.
Resistance? I must want that. Pondering non dual concepts? Indeed, I must want that too. I am the only one here and this is what it's doing.
Well, I'll be damned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:20:34 GMT -5
I just realized that there's no one here to want anything except what's happening. This is what's happening so this must be what I want to be happening. Resistance? I must want that. Pondering non dual concepts? Indeed, I must want that too. I am the only one here and this is what it's doing. Well, I'll be darned. |
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Post by jazz on Jul 26, 2013 4:36:06 GMT -5
Yes. It's nothing huge, just an.."oh". "I wonder what the peeps at ST will respond to this." There is an urge to share these things and I'm aware that it's probably egoic, but I need something to reflect on.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:36:46 GMT -5
I just realized that there's no one here to want anything except what's happening. This is what's happening so this must be what I want to be happening. Resistance? I must want that. Pondering non dual concepts? Indeed, I must want that too. I am the only one here and this is what it's doing. Well, I'll be darned. where does one go for UNDERSTANDing? Does one float their ship down their flag-pole or allow the penny to drop or come down like a Huge Rock an land back where you started-out?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:39:08 GMT -5
I just realized that there's no one here to want anything except what's happening. This is what's happening so this must be what I want to be happening. Resistance? I must want that. Pondering non dual concepts? Indeed, I must want that too. I am the only one here and this is what it's doing. Well, I'll be darned. Me thinks idiot has a place in the process of self realisation... it seems to be stationary between the levels of ascension an here also when we return. #1 idiot |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:39:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:47:59 GMT -5
Yes. It's nothing huge, just an.."oh". "I wonder what the peeps at ST will respond to this." There is an urge to share these things and I'm aware that it's probably egoic, but I need something to reflect on. |
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Post by topology on Jul 26, 2013 7:13:59 GMT -5
Many many insights and realizations are coming lately, too many to list or keep up with here Everything from the backward view that we have of sleep, dreams, and waking life, to the flows of energy and awareness and how they relate to meditaion and Samadhi So many insights and realizations, thay seem to come like a dawning in the body and mind in that in between of being in Samadhi and back to mind centeredness. But a realization on insights/realizations themselves just occurred. For the same reason that woo woo experiences should not be clung to, realizations should not be pondered or understood, the "knowing" of a realization should be let go of just as woo woo experiences should be. This is because realizations and insights are for doing, they are for action, not for knowing or pondering, realizations are there for a kind of body knowledge, not mind knowledge or wisdom, when a realization occurs, it is felt deeply in the body and the mind, the body knows what to do with the insights, the mind should not interfere of try to understand them or ponder them or make sense of them. When mind does this, it inhibits the action of the realization, and realizations are for action, for being, not for knowing. Let go of all knowledge and understanding of your insights and realizations, let the body make use of them when and if they are of use. Don't cling to them, don't try to live by them, for the same reason that you don't cling to woo woo experiences, don't cling to realizations and insights. Don't make any special note of your realizations and insights, even though they may temp you to do so just as woo woo experiences do. Realizations are of no lesser or greater value than woo woo experiences Don't ponder over them, don't cling to them Realizations are for doing, not for knowing. Don't develop or maintain attachments to woo woo experiences, regular experiences, or realizations and insights. For the purposes of clarity,: We may all define insights or realizations as something different, but what I am talking anout here is that exoeridnce we all have had, where a realization occurs that leaves one with a feeling of spaciousness and openness in both the mind and body.....these types of realizations ahave a very powerful affect on us, that can create an attachment. Don't let realization or insights become a sacred cow that your mind clings to and builds a belief system around that you can become absorbed in. Steve, you'd get to permanent relative samadhi faster if you would plug the hole through which this oral diahria is coming out of. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 7:37:29 GMT -5
Many many insights and realizations are coming lately, too many to list or keep up with here Everything from the backward view that we have of sleep, dreams, and waking life, to the flows of energy and awareness and how they relate to meditaion and Samadhi So many insights and realizations, thay seem to come like a dawning in the body and mind in that in between of being in Samadhi and back to mind centeredness. But a realization on insights/realizations themselves just occurred. For the same reason that woo woo experiences should not be clung to, realizations should not be pondered or understood, the "knowing" of a realization should be let go of just as woo woo experiences should be. This is because realizations and insights are for doing, they are for action, not for knowing or pondering, realizations are there for a kind of body knowledge, not mind knowledge or wisdom, when a realization occurs, it is felt deeply in the body and the mind, the body knows what to do with the insights, the mind should not interfere of try to understand them or ponder them or make sense of them. When mind does this, it inhibits the action of the realization, and realizations are for action, for being, not for knowing. Let go of all knowledge and understanding of your insights and realizations, let the body make use of them when and if they are of use. Don't cling to them, don't try to live by them, for the same reason that you don't cling to woo woo experiences, don't cling to realizations and insights. Don't make any special note of your realizations and insights, even though they may temp you to do so just as woo woo experiences do. Realizations are of no lesser or greater value than woo woo experiences Don't ponder over them, don't cling to them Realizations are for doing, not for knowing. Don't develop or maintain attachments to woo woo experiences, regular experiences, or realizations and insights. For the purposes of clarity,: We may all define insights or realizations as something different, but what I am talking anout here is that exoeridnce we all have had, where a realization occurs that leaves one with a feeling of spaciousness and openness in both the mind and body.....these types of realizations ahave a very powerful affect on us, that can create an attachment. Don't let realization or insights become a sacred cow that your mind clings to and builds a belief system around that you can become absorbed in. Steve, you'd get to permanent relative samadhi faster if you would plug the hole through which this oral diahria is coming out of. Diarrhea or diarrhoea (from the Greek  ??, dia "through" + rheo "flow" meaning "flowing through |
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