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Post by onehandclapping on Jul 22, 2013 1:23:16 GMT -5
Figured I'd start a new thread just so I wouldn't get accused of not engaging Tzu in conversation again in his story of OHC. He said to me that I shouldn't talk to him unless I wanted to "expand awareness" so here I am starting a thread about expanding awareness. Now can somebody please explain what that means, expanding awareness? So I can properly engage in conversation according to his standards.
Is that like the Christians spreading Christianity? Or is it something to do with going to the top of mount woohoo more often to visit? Or is there some way to experience something more than this now moment? Something beyond this?
Pour out thy infinite wisdom!!
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 9:26:06 GMT -5
Greetings.. Figured I'd start a new thread just so I wouldn't get accused of not engaging Tzu in conversation again in his story of OHC. He said to me that I shouldn't talk to him unless I wanted to "expand awareness" so here I am starting a thread about expanding awareness. Now can somebody please explain what that means, expanding awareness? So I can properly engage in conversation according to his standards. Is that like the Christians spreading Christianity? Or is it something to do with going to the top of mount woohoo more often to visit? Or is there some way to experience something more than this now moment? Something beyond this? Pour out thy infinite wisdom!! Are you aware of 'all that is'? Have you had enough direct experience to back-up your understandings with actuality rather than mind-play and beliefs?.. Have you lived your life with unconditional sincerity and gusto? Can you discern between what 'is', and what is 'imagined'? Can you understand 'why' it is that 'Tzu' evokes such defensiveness in you, such insecurity? ** sips gunpowder tea ** Let's talk, it's easy.. Are you aware of the subject of the painting on my immediate right? No? There's a place where 'awareness can expand'.. Be well.. |
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 22, 2013 10:15:48 GMT -5
Greetings.. Figured I'd start a new thread just so I wouldn't get accused of not engaging Tzu in conversation again in his story of OHC. He said to me that I shouldn't talk to him unless I wanted to "expand awareness" so here I am starting a thread about expanding awareness. Now can somebody please explain what that means, expanding awareness? So I can properly engage in conversation according to his standards. Is that like the Christians spreading Christianity? Or is it something to do with going to the top of mount woohoo more often to visit? Or is there some way to experience something more than this now moment? Something beyond this? Pour out thy infinite wisdom!! Are you aware of 'all that is'? Have you had enough direct experience to back-up your understandings with actuality rather than mind-play and beliefs?.. Have you lived your life with unconditional sincerity and gusto? Can you discern between what 'is', and what is 'imagined'? Can you understand 'why' it is that 'Tzu' evokes such defensiveness in you, such insecurity? ** sips gunpowder tea ** Let's talk, it's easy..
Are you aware of the subject of the painting on my immediate right? No? There's a place where 'awareness can expand'.. Be well.. You mean, like, remote viewing? (mostly commenting so I can track this thread). |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 10:21:17 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Are you aware of 'all that is'? Have you had enough direct experience to back-up your understandings with actuality rather than mind-play and beliefs?.. Have you lived your life with unconditional sincerity and gusto? Can you discern between what 'is', and what is 'imagined'? Can you understand 'why' it is that 'Tzu' evokes such defensiveness in you, such insecurity? ** sips gunpowder tea ** Let's talk, it's easy..
Are you aware of the subject of the painting on my immediate right? No? There's a place where 'awareness can expand'.. Be well.. You mean, like, remote viewing? (mostly commenting so I can track this thread). Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. |
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 22, 2013 10:47:27 GMT -5
Greetings.. You mean, like, remote viewing? (mostly commenting so I can track this thread). Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. Well then. I can't possibly know, unless you share with me. Please, do share. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 11:01:35 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. Well then. I can't possibly know, unless you share with me. Please, do share. <Respectful Bows> The painting is a watercolor of a praying mantis, by John Chen.. Be well.. |
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 22, 2013 11:03:19 GMT -5
Greetings.. Well then. I can't possibly know, unless you share with me. Please, do share. <Respectful Bows> The painting is a watercolor of a praying mantis, by John Chen.. Be well.. What appealed to you about the painting, that you decided to hang it on your wall? |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 11:13:23 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. <Respectful Bows> The painting is a watercolor of a praying mantis, by John Chen.. Be well.. What appealed to you about the painting, that you decided to hang it on your wall? It was a gift from a student.. i suppose the student's awareness that i spent thirteen years training at the Wah Lum Northern Praying Mantis Kung Fu Temple (Wah Lum Pai) was the inspiration.. The energy and calligraphy resonate nicely with my own energies.. Be well.. |
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 22, 2013 11:23:11 GMT -5
Greetings.. What appealed to you about the painting, that you decided to hang it on your wall? It was a gift from a student.. i suppose the student's awareness that i spent thirteen years training at the Wah Lum Northern Praying Mantis Kung Fu Temple (Wah Lum Pai) was the inspiration.. The energy and calligraphy resonate nicely with my own energies.. Be well.. The symbolism suits you: www.whats-your-sign.com/animal-symbolism-mantis.htmlNow I will share that when I look at watercolors (applying my own filters), I see something that never quite comes into focus -- just blurry brush strokes. Would you say that is true of you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 11:48:47 GMT -5
Greetings.. You mean, like, remote viewing? (mostly commenting so I can track this thread). Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. Hi Tzu, greetings can you see what kind of bracelet the girl to my left is wearing?(mind you ,she´ll be gone in half an hour but that shouldnt be a problema.)i send you the image, you can look it up in my mind...or yours remote viewing is rather advanced.. i can sense what goes on inside others,(limited to what i need to know) i gave a description of your experience (as i perceived it -stillness, clarity, a wonderful freshness in the heart,expanding into the body, and everything becomes suddenly very beautiful compared to my conditioned view, and even bliss starts flowing in the heart, or is it love, or joy...hard to define...these emotional responses in the heart, the depth and quality of them,are ,as i understand it, determined by either previous lives=i know you call that a story but is not the point here now= or inner work done earlier in life, preceding the experience. you can expand by opening in silence to this force or Presence,whatever name you would want to give it. if you are empty yourself, you pick up vibrations from others which could use expanding,or clarification, since they are mixed, impure. i guess that is the work of a teacher. The freeer he is ,the less he will be affected by other´s vibrations. The more he integrates these vibrations however, the more effective he will be as a teacher (i dont talk mental teaching here, it is not in the words), as he has a larger gamma of energies that he will master... and if you master it in yourself,you master it everywhere.You can temporarily suspend the troubled view of the student. in our case that didnt happen, we never engaged in any discussion/conscious contact prior to my experience(for the newcomers :i left the forum,about 3 months ago..i thought for ever as there were´´ no real teachers here ´´ and that same evening a voice came in my head and said ´´what about Mr Tzu?´´ i had never got into discussion with him as there were so many critters on thos threads.I went inside and found the described feeling. (btw i have come to learn that otherrs here have different levels of a similar experience)(and it is weird to see you all fight with each other) what you ask is like..´´so you maybe climbed that hill...but can you climb the everest?´´There are many stages, of expansion,you can maybe tell me that those are stories, hence my question about the bracelet. if that´s too hard, there´s a poster to my right.About what? i do not want to put you on the spot here, as i am grateful for the experience (an angel?) showed me in relation to you. But it is a fair question, unless i get it all wrong here.I have no doubt that a Master could describe exactly what that painting looks like.Question is if he would engage in such games.They have usually better things to do. i am not questioning your realisation or experience, i respect, no i am not going to try see what is on the painting...but maybe i will come up with the answer in a few days...not likely but i have very much more strange things seen happen, but never in a ´´demonstration´´..If it is useful for someone here, it might work.Demonstrations like that usually dont work, too much ego (stories, past) involved, which clouds perception. and then there are many ways to get knowledge about that painting. someone could ,might be able to see the painting through your eyes,but the stiller you are the harder that is as there is nothing to hold on to..it is empty there, right? now my emptiness/consciousness has to put out a WILL to see through your eyes.( ´´who´´ does that? THAT is individualised consciousness.) it could ask a vital entity to go have a look and tell me.but they like to mess things up, little critters... ´´all awareness´´ suggest instant knowledge...but again, that is asking for running the 100 meters under ten seconds..it is rather rare. Is it a fair question? i never did this before, i´ve checked a lot of emotional bonds with folks near and far.getting the hang of that.many many years of experience. anyway, nobody would believe it anyway as they think we are friends.Suspicious minds...That is why it wont work Inow get the message: dont do this...DONT DO THIS so...a little insight into my ´´madness... ´´ as you say it: be well sunshine |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 11:54:31 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. It was a gift from a student.. i suppose the student's awareness that i spent thirteen years training at the Wah Lum Northern Praying Mantis Kung Fu Temple (Wah Lum Pai) was the inspiration.. The energy and calligraphy resonate nicely with my own energies.. Be well.. The symbolism suits you: www.whats-your-sign.com/animal-symbolism-mantis.htmlNow I will share that when I look at watercolors (applying my own filters), I see something that never quite comes into focus -- just blurry brush strokes. Would you say that is true of you? Yes/no.. it depends on the artist and style.. the Mantis painting is similar to the Chinese language, there is enough structure for the observer to draw upon their awareness for understanding the artist's message, without confining the message to only the artist's perspective.. this is a photo of the painting:  Be well.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 12:00:43 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. Hi Tzu, greetings can you see what kind of bracelet the girl to my left is wearing?(mind you ,she´ll be gone in half an hour but that shouldnt be a problema.)i send you the image, you can look it up in my mind...or yours remote viewing is rather advanced.. i can sense what goes on inside others,(limited to what i need to know) i gave a description of your experience (as i perceived it -stillness, clarity, a wonderful freshness in the heart,expanding into the body, and everything becomes suddenly very beautiful compared to my conditioned view, and even bliss starts flowing in the heart, or is it love, or joy...hard to define...these emotional responses in the heart, the depth and quality of them,are ,as i understand it, determined by either previous lives=i know you call that a story but is not the point here now= or inner work done earlier in life, preceding the experience. you can expand by opening in silence to this force or Presence,whatever name you would want to give it. if you are empty yourself, you pick up vibrations from others which could use expanding,or clarification, since they are mixed, impure. i guess that is the work of a teacher. The freeer he is ,the less he will be affected by other´s vibrations. The more he integrates these vibrations however, the more effective he will be as a teacher (i dont talk mental teaching here, it is not in the words), as he has a larger gamma of energies that he will master... and if you master it in yourself,you master it everywhere.You can temporarily suspend the troubled view of the student. in our case that didnt happen, we never engaged in any discussion/conscious contact prior to my experience(for the newcomers :i left the forum,about 3 months ago..i thought for ever as there were´´ no real teachers here ´´ and that same evening a voice came in my head and said ´´what about Mr Tzu?´´ i had never got into discussion with him as there were so many critters on thos threads.I went inside and found the described feeling. (btw i have come to learn that otherrs here have different levels of a similar experience)(and it is weird to see you all fight with each other) what you ask is like..´´so you maybe climbed that hill...but can you climb the everest?´´There are many stages, of expansion,you can maybe tell me that those are stories, hence my question about the bracelet. if that´s too hard, there´s a poster to my right.About what? i do not want to put you on the spot here, as i am grateful for the experience (an angel?) showed me in relation to you. But it is a fair question, unless i get it all wrong here.I have no doubt that a Master could describe exactly what that painting looks like.Question is if he would engage in such games.They have usually better things to do. i am not questioning your realisation or experience, i respect, no i am not going to try see what is on the painting...but maybe i will come up with the answer in a few days...not likely but i have very much more strange things seen happen, but never in a ´´demonstration´´..If it is useful for someone here, it might work.Demonstrations like that usually dont work, too much ego (stories, past) involved, which clouds perception. and then there are many ways to get knowledge about that painting. someone could ,might be able to see the painting through your eyes,but the stiller you are the harder that is as there is nothing to hold on to..it is empty there, right? now my emptiness/consciousness has to put out a WILL to see through your eyes.( ´´who´´ does that? THAT is individualised consciousness.) it could ask a vital entity to go have a look and tell me.but they like to mess things up, little critters... ´´all awareness´´ suggest instant knowledge...but again, that is asking for running the 100 meters under ten seconds..it is rather rare. Is it a fair question? i never did this before, i´ve checked a lot of emotional bonds with folks near and far.getting the hang of that.many many years of experience. anyway, nobody would believe it anyway as they think we are friends.Suspicious minds...That is why it wont work Inow get the message: dont do this...DONT DO THIS so...a little insight into my ´´madness... ´´ as you say it: be well sunshine i see SQ beat me to it...nice one !! still interested in some insights from You, Tzujanli |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 22, 2013 12:10:36 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Hi SQ: That's a real possibility.. but. i've been asking the question regularly, and no one has had the clarity to address the question with 'awareness'.. Be well.. Hi Tzu, greetings can you see what kind of bracelet the girl to my left is wearing?(mind you ,she´ll be gone in half an hour but that shouldnt be a problema.)i send you the image, you can look it up in my mind...or yours remote viewing is rather advanced.. i can sense what goes on inside others,(limited to what i need to know) i gave a description of your experience (as i perceived it -stillness, clarity, a wonderful freshness in the heart,expanding into the body, and everything becomes suddenly very beautiful compared to my conditioned view, and even bliss starts flowing in the heart, or is it love, or joy...hard to define...these emotional responses in the heart, the depth and quality of them,are ,as i understand it, determined by either previous lives=i know you call that a story but is not the point here now= or inner work done earlier in life, preceding the experience. you can expand by opening in silence to this force or Presence,whatever name you would want to give it. if you are empty yourself, you pick up vibrations from others which could use expanding,or clarification, since they are mixed, impure. i guess that is the work of a teacher. The freeer he is ,the less he will be affected by other´s vibrations. The more he integrates these vibrations however, the more effective he will be as a teacher (i dont talk mental teaching here, it is not in the words), as he has a larger gamma of energies that he will master... and if you master it in yourself,you master it everywhere.You can temporarily suspend the troubled view of the student. in our case that didnt happen, we never engaged in any discussion/conscious contact prior to my experience(for the newcomers :i left the forum,about 3 months ago..i thought for ever as there were´´ no real teachers here ´´ and that same evening a voice came in my head and said ´´what about Mr Tzu?´´ i had never got into discussion with him as there were so many critters on thos threads.I went inside and found the described feeling. (btw i have come to learn that otherrs here have different levels of a similar experience)(and it is weird to see you all fight with each other) what you ask is like..´´so you maybe climbed that hill...but can you climb the everest?´´There are many stages, of expansion,you can maybe tell me that those are stories, hence my question about the bracelet. if that´s too hard, there´s a poster to my right.About what? i do not want to put you on the spot here, as i am grateful for the experience (an angel?) showed me in relation to you. But it is a fair question, unless i get it all wrong here.I have no doubt that a Master could describe exactly what that painting looks like.Question is if he would engage in such games.They have usually better things to do. i am not questioning your realisation or experience, i respect, no i am not going to try see what is on the painting...but maybe i will come up with the answer in a few days...not likely but i have very much more strange things seen happen, but never in a ´´demonstration´´..If it is useful for someone here, it might work.Demonstrations like that usually dont work, too much ego (stories, past) involved, which clouds perception. and then there are many ways to get knowledge about that painting. someone could ,might be able to see the painting through your eyes,but the stiller you are the harder that is as there is nothing to hold on to..it is empty there, right? now my emptiness/consciousness has to put out a WILL to see through your eyes.( ´´who´´ does that? THAT is individualised consciousness.) it could ask a vital entity to go have a look and tell me.but they like to mess things up, little critters... ´´all awareness´´ suggest instant knowledge...but again, that is asking for running the 100 meters under ten seconds..it is rather rare. Is it a fair question? i never did this before, i´ve checked a lot of emotional bonds with folks near and far.getting the hang of that.many many years of experience. anyway, nobody would believe it anyway as they think we are friends.Suspicious minds...That is why it wont work Inow get the message: dont do this...DONT DO THIS so...a little insight into my ´´madness... ´´ as you say it: be well sunshine Hi Sunshine; I don't know about the bracelet or the painting, as i read your post i sensed softness.. so, rather than make claims and play games, i simply ask, will you tell me about the bracelet, will you tell me about the painting? 'this' is the 'magic', bridging the gap, sharing and coming together with the intention of exploring our existence without being 'right/wrong'.. Be well.. |
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 22, 2013 12:12:28 GMT -5
Greetings.. The symbolism suits you: www.whats-your-sign.com/animal-symbolism-mantis.htmlNow I will share that when I look at watercolors (applying my own filters), I see something that never quite comes into focus -- just blurry brush strokes. Would you say that is true of you? Yes/no.. it depends on the artist and style.. the Mantis painting is similar to the Chinese language, there is enough structure for the observer to draw upon their awareness for understanding the artist's message, without confining the message to only the artist's perspective.. this is a photo of the painting: Be well.. Nice... all great art is that way, is it not? Hubby and I are big art aficionados, and spend a lot of time going to galleries. Unfortunately, we still have blank walls in our house, because we can never agree on what to buy. Because he prefers Realism, and I prefer Abstracts. I can appreciate Realism - the skill that goes in to it - but Abstracts "speak" more to me because they allow a lot more room for the viewer's interpretation. Question for you: when you say "reality" do you mean, like the art my husband prefers? This has been a sticking point for me, whenever I hear the call to look at Reality... Fascinating part about language is that if you grew up speaking Chinese or Japanese, rather than English, you'd think a lot differently. |
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Post by silver on Jul 22, 2013 12:20:53 GMT -5
Greetings.. Yes/no.. it depends on the artist and style.. the Mantis painting is similar to the Chinese language, there is enough structure for the observer to draw upon their awareness for understanding the artist's message, without confining the message to only the artist's perspective.. this is a photo of the painting: Be well.. Nice... all great art is that way, is it not? Hubby and I are big art aficionados, and spend a lot of time going to galleries. Unfortunately, we still have blank walls in our house, because we can never agree on what to buy. Because he prefers Realism, and I prefer Abstracts. I can appreciate Realism - the skill that goes in to it - but Abstracts "speak" more to me because they allow a lot more room for the viewer's interpretation. Question for you: when you say "reality" do you mean, like the art my husband prefers? This has been a sticking point for me, whenever I hear the call to look at Reality... Fascinating part about language is that if you grew up speaking Chinese or Japanese, rather than English, you'd think a lot differently. Maybe instead of suffering with blank walls, how 'bout you each shop - pick 1 day - go out separately and bring back the 1 painting of your choices and go ahead and leave them covered - choose a special spot in the house - side by side - and put them up and then do the unveiling - see if they manage to 'fit' with one another. I think that would prove a bit of a fun little experiment. |
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