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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:31:05 GMT -5
LOL -- Love the title, 'Niz for Dummies' Niz has been distorted on this forum long enough. Time to put things into perspective again.  |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:34:00 GMT -5
But once I've transcended the "I Am" I'm then free to form attachmentless attachments, right? I'm free to be an impersonal person, right? Won't I be in perpetual peace, joy and ease unless I specifically choose not to be? Will I grow green gills and channel myself onto some alien planet to give the inhabitants there the good news? Yes, in dreamless deep sleep you can do whatever you want. You can even say " I am doing this or that" after transcending " I am"...  |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:37:21 GMT -5
Although Niz uses the word "understanding", this part makes it clear that a realization does not implicate beliefiness: " Self -realization is beyond the mind... To know that the known cannot be me nor mine, is liberation enough. Freedom from self-identification with a set of memories and habits. To know the source as source and appearance as appearance, and oneself as the source only is self-realization.." The "knowing" in that last sentence doesn't refer to a manifestation of information.Correkktamente! |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 21, 2013 10:38:51 GMT -5
Greetings.. LOL -- Love the title, 'Niz for Dummies' Niz has been distorted on this forum long enough. Time to put things into perspective again. Niz is a distortion of 'what is'.. perpetrating his own imagined cure for insecurity upon others.. robbing people of their own self-discovery by creating the illusion that his escape from reality is valid for others.. Teach others to see clearly, and.. IF Niz's beliefs are valid, clarity will reveal them as such, but.. there is no honest faith in Niz, as his disciples push his beliefs rather than the clarity that would reveal the actuality of those beliefs.. Be well.. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 21, 2013 10:43:56 GMT -5
Greetings.. Niz has been distorted on this forum long enough. Time to put things into perspective again. Niz is a distortion of 'what is'.. perpetrating his own imagined cure for insecurity upon others.. robbing people of their own self-discovery by creating the illusion that his escape from reality is valid for others.. Teach others to see clearly, and.. IF Niz's beliefs are valid, clarity will reveal them as such, but.. there is no honest faith in Niz, as his disciples push his beliefs rather than the clarity that would reveal the actuality of those beliefs.. Be well..  Throw the it away already! ... |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:44:09 GMT -5
Niz's words were being translated by a non-native English speaker into English....a better translation may be to substitute Gnosis for both "understanding" and "knowing" in that quote ;-) Thanks!  Do you have any take on the translation of "ananda" into "bliss"? Ananda – In the Himalayas is a luxury destination spa...  |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:45:47 GMT -5
Do you see the presupposition in your question? Laughter: Do you see why I remain silent? *laughs* But you are still laughing. What kind of silence is that?!  |
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Post by laughter on Jul 21, 2013 10:46:57 GMT -5
Thanks! Do you have any take on the translation of "ananda" into "bliss"? Ananda – In the Himalayas is a luxury destination spa...  ... do they have a 4-star that serves rabbit on the menu? ... from 1999? |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:47:56 GMT -5
Greetings.. Niz has been distorted on this forum long enough. Time to put things into perspective again. Niz is a distortion of 'what is'.. perpetrating his own imagined cure for insecurity upon others.. robbing people of their own self-discovery by creating the illusion that his escape from reality is valid for others.. Teach others to see clearly, and.. IF Niz's beliefs are valid, clarity will reveal them as such, but.. there is no honest faith in Niz, as his disciples push his beliefs rather than the clarity that would reveal the actuality of those beliefs.. Be well.. How snotty of you! |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2013 10:48:45 GMT -5
Ananda – In the Himalayas is a luxury destination spa... ... do they have a 4-star that serves rabbit on the menu? ... from 1999? You think Tzu would bite?  |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 21, 2013 11:00:57 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Niz is a distortion of 'what is'.. perpetrating his own imagined cure for insecurity upon others.. robbing people of their own self-discovery by creating the illusion that his escape from reality is valid for others.. Teach others to see clearly, and.. IF Niz's beliefs are valid, clarity will reveal them as such, but.. there is no honest faith in Niz, as his disciples push his beliefs rather than the clarity that would reveal the actuality of those beliefs.. Be well.. How snotty of you! How defensive of you.. what i posted is simple clarity, you oppose that as it reveals your indefensible attachments.. Be well.. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 21, 2013 11:02:15 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Niz is a distortion of 'what is'.. perpetrating his own imagined cure for insecurity upon others.. robbing people of their own self-discovery by creating the illusion that his escape from reality is valid for others.. Teach others to see clearly, and.. IF Niz's beliefs are valid, clarity will reveal them as such, but.. there is no honest faith in Niz, as his disciples push his beliefs rather than the clarity that would reveal the actuality of those beliefs.. Be well.. IT.. was never there.. Be well.. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 21, 2013 11:05:55 GMT -5
... do they have a 4-star that serves rabbit on the menu? ... from 1999? You think Tzu would bite? Only if he liked it ... otherwise he'd put it in his pocket for 14 years ... |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 25, 2013 1:32:29 GMT -5
You think Tzu would bite? Only if he liked it ... otherwise he'd put it in his pocket for 14 years ... Yes, he talks a lot about patience lately. |
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... do they have a 4-star that serves rabbit on the menu? ... from 1999?