I'm insane

[jazz]

So I'm reading a book called "The Fall:" The insanity of the human ego in history and the dawning of a new era". It's a good read, which I haven't yet finished but it talks of an era before the fall, when people lived in harmony. In short, there was a "naturalness" about them and there wasn't need for conflict and women and men were equal. The garden of Eden comes to mind. This, the author Steven Taylor suggests, was the natural state before "The Fall" which had to do with environmental changes.

The humans on earth today are descended from this more savage, destructive kind of people and I thought to myself "but of course!. I'm insane!" All of this going on inside of me is just insanity. Plain and simple. I do not exist as a seperate human being and there's nothing I need to prove to anyone or anything. And nothing of this is "mine". It's mass psychosis!

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Jun 25, 2013 19:57:21 GMT -5 jazz said:

So I'm reading a book called "The Fall:" The insanity of the human ego in history and the dawning of a new era". It's a good read, which I haven't yet finished but it talks of an era before the fall, when people lived in harmony. In short, there was a "naturalness" about them and there wasn't need for conflict and women and men were equal. The garden of Eden comes to mind. This, the author Steven Taylor suggests, was the natural state before "The Fall" which had to do with environmental changes.

The humans on earth today are descended from this more savage, destructive kind of people and I thought to myself "but of course!. I'm insane!" All of this going on inside of me is just insanity. Plain and simple. I do not exist as a seperate human being and there's nothing I need to prove to anyone or anything. And nothing of this is "mine". It's mass psychosis!

[Ishtahota]

(As inside ,so also outside) We choose duality consciousness, the knowledge of good and evil. All of Earth and all that we create must reflect back at us who and what we really are. Our higher-self looks at us and makes the decisions on what to create so that we can see our true reflection, and our sub-conscious makes it so.

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Jun 25, 2013 21:09:51 GMT -5 Ishtahota said:

(As inside ,so also outside) We choose duality consciousness, the knowledge of good and evil. All of Earth and all that we create must reflect back at us who and what we really are. Our higher-self looks at us and makes the decisions on what to create so that we can see our true reflection, and our sub-conscious makes it so.

Sounds like your implying that mind can manipulate matter...

[Ishtahota]

My dad has moved objects with his mind. Three of his friends also saw him do it and they never spoke to him again. We are far more then we have ever dreamed.

[andrew]

Jun 25, 2013 19:57:21 GMT -5 jazz said:

So I'm reading a book called "The Fall:" The insanity of the human ego in history and the dawning of a new era". It's a good read, which I haven't yet finished but it talks of an era before the fall, when people lived in harmony. In short, there was a "naturalness" about them and there wasn't need for conflict and women and men were equal. The garden of Eden comes to mind. This, the author Steven Taylor suggests, was the natural state before "The Fall" which had to do with environmental changes.

The humans on earth today are descended from this more savage, destructive kind of people and I thought to myself "but of course!. I'm insane!" All of this going on inside of me is just insanity. Plain and simple. I do not exist as a seperate human being and there's nothing I need to prove to anyone or anything. And nothing of this is "mine". It's mass psychosis!

Yeah,exploring the alternative history of all this can be very interesting, and actually I would say that it can be potentially 'awakening' in itself. I think David Wilcoc.k is a very interesting researcher. I can well believe that this reality is really an anomaly, in the sense that we experience ourselves as separate from life, existence, all that is.

I find this Bashar clip amusing:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajQVF4b7wZQ&list=PL38A69835720B5C9A

[laughter]

Jun 25, 2013 19:57:21 GMT -5 jazz said:

So I'm reading a book called "The Fall:" The insanity of the human ego in history and the dawning of a new era". It's a good read, which I haven't yet finished but it talks of an era before the fall, when people lived in harmony. In short, there was a "naturalness" about them and there wasn't need for conflict and women and men were equal. The garden of Eden comes to mind. This, the author Steven Taylor suggests, was the natural state before "The Fall" which had to do with environmental changes.

The humans on earth today are descended from this more savage, destructive kind of people and I thought to myself "but of course!. I'm insane!" All of this going on inside of me is just insanity. Plain and simple. I do not exist as a seperate human being and there's nothing I need to prove to anyone or anything. And nothing of this is "mine". It's mass psychosis!

Whatever picture we paint of a human or pre-human mind that never objectified is bound to be incomplete, and nothing that we can ever step into. It's useful here to regard what Darwin had to offer without running it through a prism of hierarchical value. It's sort of a tautology that if we speak in terms of nature and the systems within nature that those that are good at self-replicating are the ones that will form the basis of the future. Taking the big picture, the "survival benefit" afforded by self-reference to a system under pressure from change in an environment that is vast relative to the scope of that system is as obvious as the disadvantage from self-reference to be expected once that vastness retreats -- IOW, the war with the world is one that we're bound to lose in the end, whichever way it comes to an end.

[jazz]

Jun 26, 2013 3:25:33 GMT -5 andrew said:

Jun 25, 2013 19:57:21 GMT -5 jazz said:

So I'm reading a book called "The Fall:" The insanity of the human ego in history and the dawning of a new era". It's a good read, which I haven't yet finished but it talks of an era before the fall, when people lived in harmony. In short, there was a "naturalness" about them and there wasn't need for conflict and women and men were equal. The garden of Eden comes to mind. This, the author Steven Taylor suggests, was the natural state before "The Fall" which had to do with environmental changes.

The humans on earth today are descended from this more savage, destructive kind of people and I thought to myself "but of course!. I'm insane!" All of this going on inside of me is just insanity. Plain and simple. I do not exist as a seperate human being and there's nothing I need to prove to anyone or anything. And nothing of this is "mine". It's mass psychosis!

Yeah,exploring the alternative history of all this can be very interesting, and actually I would say that it can be potentially 'awakening' in itself. I think David Wilcoc.k is a very interesting researcher. I can well believe that this reality is really an anomaly, in the sense that we experience ourselves as separate from life, existence, all that is.

I find this Bashar clip amusing:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajQVF4b7wZQ&list=PL38A69835720B5C9A

Funny character, very "on"

Yeah, I never considered a historical angle on the whole original sin concept. It's not quite so original then, is it?

It makes much more sense to look at us as being descended from savage people, people that felt threathened and did what they felt they needed to do to survive. Being humans, it's not hard to imagine how a degree of insanity just escalated to pure insanity. It's also interesting that this insanity spread all over the world but not very surprising, all being one 'n all Not everyone was inflicted, though, and the chapter I'm reading now is about the not fallen ones.