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Post by enigma on Jun 26, 2013 10:13:47 GMT -5
I'd say that's the case for exercising control, but to do that there must already be a power base. Nobody fears the weak. ok, perhaps something got by me here -- I assumed that the context was exercising control based on what I was replying to. That power requires a basis seems a tautology. Those whose power is based on the fearfulness of the weak, fear the weak. Well I didn't mean that power requires a base, I mean that control requires power as a prerequisite. As I see it, love and fear are ways of exercising control given that you have a reason to care.
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Post by laughter on Jun 26, 2013 18:16:58 GMT -5
Rather than add another layer of honesty, I advocate for distinguishing the direction of attention instead. In the example Tzu cited there is "outward" honesty with no recognition that it is based on illusion. There's no honest attention directly "inwardly". Sincerity, in the sense we're discussing, doesn't have to do with a deception of one person by another, although that's a likely byproduct of what it does have to do with, which is self-deception. Yes, and it's difficult to call for self honesty when one is deceiving oneself unconsciously. While sincere is also something one cannot choose to be, it's a betterer focus for discovering that deception. If one is interested only in the truth,it will be discovered. The difficulty is an interest in so many other things.
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Post by laughter on Jun 26, 2013 18:19:28 GMT -5
ok, perhaps something got by me here -- I assumed that the context was exercising control based on what I was replying to. That power requires a basis seems a tautology. Those whose power is based on the fearfulness of the weak, fear the weak. Well I didn't mean that power requires a base, I mean that control requires power as a prerequisite. As I see it, love and fear are ways of exercising control given that you have a reason to care. roger dodger
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Post by lolly on Jul 15, 2013 6:05:24 GMT -5
Solly, I was just tossing a line in the water. Ahh, the fisherman projection. OMG! this one has a net! (internet, that is).
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Post by lolly on Jul 15, 2013 6:07:28 GMT -5
Greetings.. Of course I've never once said anything like that much less incessantly droned it, and you have to know that. One can't mistakenly hear incessant droning when it's not being said at all. I have, however, said the opposite many times. So what kind of game are you playing here? I see.. you don't repeat that "separation is false", or "oneness is true/truth/the case"?.. do you deny that you create the illusion that if people want to know 'what in the blazes is going on', that you have the answer(s)?.. as in, you even criticized people for not 'coming empty' to hear your wisdom, comparing to swine before which you had cast the 'pearls' of your 'wisdom'.. so, what kind of 'game' are 'you' playing, E? another poor E the victim scam? Be well.. That's a totally groovy photo of you, Tzu.
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 15, 2013 19:12:17 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. I see.. you don't repeat that "separation is false", or "oneness is true/truth/the case"?.. do you deny that you create the illusion that if people want to know 'what in the blazes is going on', that you have the answer(s)?.. as in, you even criticized people for not 'coming empty' to hear your wisdom, comparing to swine before which you had cast the 'pearls' of your 'wisdom'.. so, what kind of 'game' are 'you' playing, E? another poor E the victim scam? Be well.. That's a totally groovy photo of you, Tzu. LOL.. Thanks, but i really don't do compliments very well.. there was some commentary about a previous photo appearing too harsh, so i figured i'd try to 'lighten it up' a bit.. Be well..
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Post by lolly on Jul 15, 2013 22:50:04 GMT -5
Yes, it looks more warm and friendly than the previous one, and it changed my projection of you, giggles.
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