Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 7:37:10 GMT -5
KILL
JED NOW (as in kill the buddha, or your parents, like jed suggests.)
Jed's
claim to Truth...The Search is over?
I
dont think so
Get
Real, Jed.
Open
letter to Jed McKenna,
Dear
Jed,
I
finished your books the other day. It was a great read , especially
book one.
If
only i'd had them thirty years ago..i would have had a much easier
life...that said, i am not so sure anymore that I want to be in your
shoes.
You
nowhere mention that humans are an evolutionary species.
Your
body suffers as much as anybody's.Nothing changed there.Pain is still
pain.Your realisation is mental, not even vital let alone
physical.You can shout all you want that it is all an illusion, if
you hit your thumb with a hammer it will hurt.
So...not
good enough for me.
I
think that you haven´t thought enough of evolution.
I
do not mean the spiritual development of Man, because as you say,so
far, the religions and spiritual disciplines have failed.
It
is a hard physical fact that man, in not learning to control himself,
is destroying himself and the planet.(or maybe nature,evolution,
creates such crises to push for a solution?isnt that how evolution
works?)
On
the other hand,the simple fact that you, now, come up with a method
(autolysis) that works and takes only two years, means we make
evolutionary progress.(of
course we have to take your word for it, so far ,i never heard or
read of anyone attaining enlightenment by your method).I'd like to
believe it, but i have doubts.
it
seems more that you wrote a book to prey off all these american ego's
who all have been schooled to be ''the best'' as you claim you are
the best.And they all fell for it BIG TIME. They all want to be like
you.The mention of a few american ''enlightened ones"' feeds
that ego of course.Clever of you.
So
its either that, or it is your own unresolved ego that rages on under
your so called enlightened state. (btw psychology has a term for your
condition...it is called dissociation)(not that i care much for
western psychology)
In
the past it used to take 12 years of tight discipline,to get anywhere
near Nirvana, Sri Aurobindo did 4 years of breathing excercises , 4
to 5 hours a day "without any result'', so he dropped the
discipline, until he sat down to meditate with a yogi who told him to
stop his thoughts...within 3 days he was liberated and entered
Nirvana,an utterly overwhelming and undeniably True experience.That
is generally seen as an exception though.He then went on to clean up
his system, which you havent done.Very big diffference.
Most,
or many cases of enlightenment were a result of the person attaining
it, having been with his back against the wall.No other way out.Total
despair.
As
a species , we havent reached that choking point yet.Maybe when we
are with ten billion, we will come to that point.
After
all, at some point, a reptile has developed wings.
There
must have been some necessity for that.Life without wings had become
impossible, unbearable.
It
would seem, also, that it is Consciousness that is evolving here on
earth.The Eternal expressing itself through matter, by method of
evolution.
In
evolutionary terms, our human presence here is nothing.Imagine an
average size church.
From
ground to top, represents evolutionary time, 4 billion years.Now,
take a file and go one time back and forth over the top, and you'll
have removed homo sapiens.
So,
give us a break, will you? We just got here.
The
''who am i'' thing (Sri Ramana Maharshi) did not appeal to me, i
didnt know where to start.(i found out i had no I to begin with, but
that's another story)SRM also said''god takes care of evrything.''
''yes but...'' ''god takes care of evrything'' and so on.
''What
am I'' is already a lot better to grapple with.That one (i) can use
in autolysis.
When
I got your books,borrowed from a friend, I had practised
surrender...lived in the streets,seen too many coincidences to
believe in coincidences.Followed ´´intuitions and patterns´´as
you call them, and got rewarded.My life is relatively easy.Most of
the time, I ''enjoy the ride''.
I
figured out the ''thank you'' thing on my own.I noticed that ´´bad´´
happenings usually were to push me toward a better situation, closer
to freedom.So I lost fear of ''bad things''.
So
there i have no problem with what you say.
because:
My
intention was enlightenment.
When
i was about twelve i'd already figured out that enlightenment was the
only goal worth living for.(''become a saint-'' that was before i
knew of the word enlightenment.)
Other
stuff distracted me...the fifth time i took it,LSD gave me a bad
trip.. after that i hated the stuff.
The
God experience (lsd or otherwise) does not erase ego.
One
still has to work on that.
And
ego can abuse the Lsd.(black magic)..
So
I am not unhappy that it isnt freely distributed.
Like
chemical fertiliser, it seems like a good idea a first, but in the
long run it does a lot of damage.
The
human intellect ,in its arrogance, thinks it can do better than
nature.
Thinking
that LSD would/could have solved the global problem, is just so
naive.
But
about that you start only in book 3 and frankly, you're losing it
there.
As
I said, if I'd had your books back then, I would have been free much
sooner.But, with the same disinterest to the whole theater as you say
you have.
Right
now I am not sure that I want to dissapear over the edge.
At
this point in time I have a sincere doubt...
Sri
Aurobindo wasnt just your average guru, I have read a lot of
spiritual stuff...his teaching is the first one that includes
evolution, and suddenly it all makes sense.
Maybe
you think now, that i am another ''Bob''.I dont think so.
I
am alone, not looking for praise from anybody.
I
believe, the ego is such a b.itch, because it is impure.
And
that is because of fear.The fear is/was an evolutionary necessity, we
can now get rid of.
Basically
ego is just a conglomerate of vibrations.
Very
persistent,yes, it had to be, to evolve...it needed stability.
If
you systematically get rid of it, with your method , you arrive at
the ''impersonal'' Source,but that is only one aspect of a manyfold
infinity, as Sri Aurobindo points out. A mental realisation.
The
universal mental, the universal vital, basicly, the chakras....you
never felt them..you escaped from life before you lived it- a quick
route-over the edge...
You
threw the whole lot out, and with it, the power that is in it.The
child with the bathwater.
You
have a mental power(your books), (because you realised the Infinite
in the mental),but you missed out on all the rest...vital
power-control over life, and control over matter by spirit.
(cosmic
consciousness {=not nirvana=} in every chakra instead of only one...)
Can you put, just by willing it, a person completely at ease?A FEELING.A
vibration.Once you master it in yourself, you master it everywhere.I
saw a Master heal a psychiatric patient in a few minutes time, that
man was labeled ''incurable'', destined to kill himself.
There
are many accounts of ''miraculous healings'' also now , in these
times.
(But
then, why would you want to help others, it is all an illusion
anyway.Right?)
That
is power.Ability.Mastery.
It
may be within the dreamstate, but one can learn master ones dreams.
Many
accounts of that.Not with ego, but by surrender, prayer, discipline.
You
say we are all just consciousness,(you come with that in book 3
only...a bit late aint it?)(and
how come that everything is consciousness, but Maya isnt???-just a
question)
but you dont know (and now no longer CAN know), that this
consciousness can be individualised, without it losing its universal
properties.
That's
what Sri Aurobindo is all about.He knows one can dissappear over the
edge.He chose not to,or rather, he did, and came back...or rather,
thanks to his discipline beforehand -and possibly past lives...after
living in Nirvana day in day out eyes wide open...(he was on a
political campaign...as famous as Gandi would be 15~-20 years later)
the emptiness began to fill up and Cosmic Consciousness established
itself in him.
seeing
himself (or Krishna) IN all and everything,all being infinite love
and joy and light...without an ´´I´´ to identify with.
you
say ''C.C., nice if you can get it ...''
but
maybe you didnt try hard enough?
You Americans are rather spoilt with the notion of ''instant
gratification'' that you give up too soon.(i specifically say this
like this because Jed is very american...he is very proud of it...but
then all he comes up with is walt whitman an herman melville...rather
meagre i think)
So,
instead of escaping, we aim for a triple realisation,
1.nirvana
or silent brahman (where you are now) emptiness
2.personal
brahman---´´you´´ are everything - evil and good all is
´´you´´... fullness without identity
3.individual
soul...soul an evolutionary being, a spark from the divine but with
individual properties..a purified ego one might say.(instead of a
discarded ego)
In
the yoga practice of Sri Aurobindo
these states are aimed for SIMULTANUOUSLY...and it never stops, you are
never ''done''.
Where YOU are ''done'' is where Aurobindo his story begins,and what makes
him unique..
It
makes this universe even more wondrous than it already is.Maya can be
taken by the hand..
She
IS the ultimate prize, once transformed.This triple realisation
results in a new State, the Supramental...the only force that
actually has the power to transform and divinise life on earth.(says
Sri Aurobindo).Our Buddha´s and Jesuses have failed, like you, lets
try this.
Sri Aurobindo produced a whole range of (´´old style´´) realised students,so your
prejudice against many of these gurus doesnt hold sway here.
a
seperate question
In the trilogy, you mention a few times reincarnation.(again, in book 3
where you were losing it...or were you beginning to FIND it...not
knowing what it was?)
But
if there's nothing there, who incarnates?Just a conglomerate of
vibes,a formation, that persists outside of life, in death, and
returns to a stiuation that has similar vibes,so it can continue its
...what? and what continues what?for what?A totally senseless
purposeless happening?
Your truth is only true when you step out over the edge.
And,
it IS recognised (by Sri Aurobindo at least),that within what you
call the dreamstate, there IS no truth.Truth, there, is dynamic...it
moves all the time.Just like space and time are relative.
But
it IS possible to connect individual consciousness to energies, and
learn to master these.That is an area you completely missed out on.
Advaita
doesnt want this for a rather narrowminded fear of abuse...but it IS
being abused already and to counter it, we´d better start working or
we lose the planet.
4 billion years of evolution, just to escape from it? what a meagre
result that would be.All this suffering...for what?
spirit evolves through matter to express its eternal properties - it aims
for immortality in an immortal body.
When I listen to f.i. Satprem,(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-ESiAHClQ)
he says...''we cannot understand how we could have lived in this
prison for so long'' , (sounds like you) once freedom is attained.
But somehow, they are,he is,still able to ''identify'' with the
dreamstate.And be completely free at the same time.
Abiding
joy, abiding freedom, with a goal IN the ''dreamstate''.a Fantastic
adventure.
Perfection,Immortality.
Get Real, Jed.
Have a nice day.
anybody criticizing this review, maybe answer the questions put in it first.?
i wont engage in any discussions here anymore.But this was promised earlier on.
i will publish one or two more reviews.
